Clear this up - Smoking OC

[EudoXia]

It's not that I want to get the best bang for the buck, and it's not that I don't believe that a lot of desperate people have smoked pills before. I just think it's a bad decision health-wise to smoke pharmaceutical molecules intended for oral ingestion. Just swallow your pills and be happy with life. =p

 

[psychetool]

If it gave me the same sensation as smoking it, I would. The fact is, I don't very much like the way that eating them makes me feel - it's either too strong or not strong enough - never the happy medium. Smoking them is nice.

Can you please explain why smoking pills would be any worse then smoking any other burning substance (nicotine, weed, ect) ?

 

[johanneschimpo]

It's funny how people come in 'YOU CAN'T SMOKE PILLS!!!' well actually YES, YOU CAN. It's a different expirience, it doesn't get you sedated to FUCKED for hours - more relaxed and chill high. I just tried it and it worked fine. So go kill yourself haters, your posts mean nothing because you KNOW nothing. Yes, it might be somewhat wasteful. So what ? If I wanted to get the most bang for my buck i'd shove them up my ass but you know what ? I'm not poor and I don't put anything up my ass. Eating them sedates me too much for comfort, so smoking them is a great option.

If it gave me the same sensation as smoking it, I would. The fact is, I don't very much like the way that eating them makes me feel - it's either too strong or not strong enough - never the happy medium. Smoking them is nice.

You're an idiot. Basically you're saying you like smoking OC because it wastes so much that an 80 will get you the high you desire. Since "swallowing it is so strong", why not swallow less????? If it sedates you too much----> you probably did too much!!! (or didn't waste enough) I could go on but I'd rather not type, just read these quotes from officer douchebag and look at how stupid these statements are. I assume you buy 2 bundles of heroin and eat those, or make a paste and let them absorb through your skin? You know, since smoking/snorting/injecting 2 bundles would be wayyyyyy too much. (nevermind doing just 1 bag, its all about wasting.)

Peace, I'm going to go smoke 5 xanax bars through a mountain dew can.

 

[trip.more]

smoking fillers barf

 

[psychetool]

The effects are DIFFERENT, and as of now we don't really know how much product is lost. It could be some, it could be none. Perhaps you could tell me how much is lost by smoking. If it was the same as just eating it then I would just munch 10-20mg and be fine, but that does NOTHING. 30mg does basically nothing too and 40mg just makes me want to lay down. It has nothing to do with 'wasting' but yeah, if smoking it wastes some but gives me the effects I desire then I'll do it everytime. I'm not some addicted junkhead who has to squeeze every last cent out of his drugs to stalve off withdrawl.

And yes, the few times i'v done H I smoked it every time and it was wonderful. I didn't waste anything, money well spent and I got to avoid ugly trackmarks or a clogged up nose. Plus H is potent enough to smoke a little bit and have a good time, OC just has too steep of a dosage curve IMO.

P.S. To everyone who is so opposed to smoking fillers, whats the big deal ? People smoke off tin foil all the time, people smoke nicotine, weed, meth, and you're telling me the FILLERS are whats bad? HAH!

P.S.P.S. If smoking xanax worked and gave me better effects then eating it, you can bet damn well i'd probably do that too. The difference between your analogy and mine is that smoking oxy DOES work where as smoking xanax would be pointless because it simply would not get you high that way.

 

[ktx49]

You're an idiot. Basically you're saying you like smoking OC because it wastes so much that an 80 will get you the high you desire. Since "swallowing it is so strong", why not swallow less????? If it sedates you too much----> you probably did too much!!! (or didn't waste enough) I could go on but I'd rather not type, just read these quotes from officer douchebag and look at how stupid these statements are. I assume you buy 2 bundles of heroin and eat those, or make a paste and let them absorb through your skin? You know, since smoking/snorting/injecting 2 bundles would be wayyyyyy too much. (nevermind doing just 1 bag, its all about wasting.)

Peace, I'm going to go smoke 5 xanax bars through a mountain dew can.

hahahaa exactly what i was about to type....

he is an idiot, no questions asked! i was laughing SO hard when i saw him type that oxy is "too strong"....wtf?!?

the reason you think oral oxy is TOO strong and smoking them is perfect is because you are NOT getting high from oxy....if you are in fact managing to absorb any oxy, it would theoritically produce the same effects, but NO, you say its different...therefore, you are magically turning your oxy into some other chemical. thats like saying smoked heroin has different effects than injected heroin; sure the rush and speed of onset of effects will be different, but the ]effects will be the same as it is the SAME drug.

again you just prove how ignorant and dumb you are....go ahead SMOKE your fucking oxy because orally its TOO strong hahaha!

why not take less until you find the perfect amount? instead of smoking an entire oxy80 and getting "high" from all the voilatile fumes/smoke and DESTROYING the actual oxycodone(yes you ARE destroying it by smoking....just do some research on oxycodone HCL you idiot), you could swallow probally a 1/4 the amount and get MUCH MUCH better effects....EG. a REAL opiate high!

but go ahead, all these experienced opiate users like myself are idiots and we know nothing! we dont experiment with smoking pills because its a waste, VERY unhealthy, and last of all, STUPID!

from sheer stupidity, these idiots will keep posting about how we are wrong yet for some reason any experienced opiate user will tell them different!

 

[ktx49]

The effects are DIFFERENT, and as of now we don't really know how much product is lost. It could be some, it could be none. Perhaps you could tell me how much is lost by smoking. If it was the same as just eating it then I would just munch 10-20mg and be fine, but that does NOTHING. 30mg does basically nothing too and 40mg just makes me want to lay down. It has nothing to do with 'wasting' but yeah, if smoking it wastes some but gives me the effects I desire then I'll do it everytime. I'm not some addicted junkhead who has to squeeze every last cent out of his drugs to stalve off withdrawl.

And yes, the few times i'v done H I smoked it every time and it was wonderful. I didn't waste anything, money well spent and I got to avoid ugly trackmarks or a clogged up nose. Plus H is potent enough to smoke a little bit and have a good time, OC just has too steep of a dosage curve IMO.

P.S. To everyone who is so opposed to smoking fillers, whats the big deal ? People smoke off tin foil all the time, people smoke nicotine, weed, meth, and you're telling me the FILLERS are whats bad? HAH!

P.S.P.S. If smoking xanax worked and gave me better effects then eating it, you can bet damn well i'd probably do that too. The difference between your analogy and mine is that smoking oxy DOES work where as smoking xanax would be pointless because it simply would not get you high that way.

ok mr. smart guy-
why does smoking oxy work but smoking xanax doesnt?!?!?

lol lol

 

[TR_606]

You're an idiot. Basically you're saying you like smoking OC because it wastes so much that an 80 will get you the high you desire. Since "swallowing it is so strong", why not swallow less????? If it sedates you too much----> you probably did too much!!! (or didn't waste enough) I could go on but I'd rather not type, just read these quotes from officer douchebag and look at how stupid these statements are. I assume you buy 2 bundles of heroin and eat those, or make a paste and let them absorb through your skin? You know, since smoking/snorting/injecting 2 bundles would be wayyyyyy too much. (nevermind doing just 1 bag, its all about wasting.)

Peace, I'm going to go smoke 5 xanax bars through a mountain dew can.

Ha! - Thats one of the funniest posts i've read in a while...!
Nice one mate...:D :D

 

[dexingpotsmoker]

I really suggest that if you guys that are ragging on him/oxy smoking have never done it than you get out and do it or shut the hell up.

First hand expereience > what you read

 

[psychetool]

hahahaa exactly what i was about to type....

he is an idiot, no questions asked! i was laughing SO hard when i saw him type that oxy is "too strong"....wtf?!?

the reason you think oral oxy is TOO strong and smoking them is perfect is because you are NOT getting high from oxy....if you are in fact managing to absorb any oxy, it would theoritically produce the same effects, but NO, you say its different...therefore, you are magically turning your oxy into some other chemical. thats like saying smoked heroin has different effects than injected heroin; sure the rush and speed of onset of effects will be different, but the ]effects will be the same as it is the SAME drug. By the way, since you seem to KNOW that smoking it destroys the OC - what temperature is it destroyed at ? I have looked around and I can't seem to find an answer, but since you seem to know it as truth then where did you get your information ?

again you just prove how ignorant and dumb you are....go ahead SMOKE your fucking oxy because orally its TOO strong hahaha!

why not take less until you find the perfect amount? instead of smoking an entire oxy80 and getting "high" from all the voilatile fumes/smoke and DESTROYING the actual oxycodone(yes you ARE destroying it by smoking....just do some research on oxycodone HCL you idiot), you could swallow probally a 1/4 the amount and get MUCH MUCH better effects....EG. a REAL opiate high!

but go ahead, all these experienced opiate users like myself are idiots and we know nothing! we dont experiment with smoking pills because its a waste, VERY unhealthy, and last of all, STUPID!

from sheer stupidity, these idiots will keep posting about how we are wrong yet for some reason any experienced opiate user will tell them different!

Do you even know how to read? I have tried oral dosages of 10,20,30 and 40. Smoking a 40 was the highest dosage I ever used and it worked wonderfully - WHEN SMOKED. I also -know- it worked because of the pinpoint pupils and opiate intoxication. So any idiot can see that enough of it survived and went into my system to give me good effects. Eating it has never been a good expirience for me. Smoked heroin is definitly NOT the same as banging it or snorting it, yes, the chemical is the same but the action is obviously different. The ignorance in this thread is mindboggling.

By the way, smoking oxycodone works because it gets through the blood brain barrier where as when you smoke xanax it does not. Braindead kids talking shit to me, heh... Keep jawin, boy.

 

[Weebl8bob]

Ill admit it when i was a n00b i did it too! The oxy smoke DOES taste and smell like burnt mashmellows! It does NOT work though! I thought at first i felt it but it tunred out to be placeabo.. I believe if you search youll find that post asking how to smoking it for proof

 

[psychetool]

How much did you smoke ? a 5mg roxicet ? I was just looking through some rehab centers where people have been admitted for addiction to smoked oxycontin, so cite your source that it is placebo. There is currently two threads on smoking oxycontin on the main page and both of them have people who say it worked. I also gotta ask you then, why did my pupils pinpoint ?

 

[DopaMan]

Oxycodone HCL has a melting point of 218-220 °C (and Im sure it dies at the boiling point), so any effect is from solid particles being absorbed in or on their way to your lungs. Wax particles in your lungs is awesome by the way.

 

[psychetool]

Physical Data
For Oxycodone Hydrochloride:
Odor: odorless
Form: powder (solid)
Color: white to off-white
Vapor Pressure: no information available
Melting Point: 270-272°C
Kow: <1 (pH 7); <10 (pH 9)
Solubility: 10gm in 100g of water

http://www.pharma.com/MSDSs/OxyContin_binder.pdf

Plus, does it vaporizing mean it gets destroyed or is simply turned into vapor ? I found this information on coke...

When heated, cocaine base, which has a melting point of 89 to 92 degrees Celsius, will sublimate or, put differently, will convert from a solid state to a vapor without becoming a liquid. This allows it to be inhaled. Cocaine hydrochloride, with a melting point of 190 to 195 degrees Celsius, will simply burn at lower temperatures, losing almost all of its psychoactive properties before it ever becomes a vapor.

Also, again, explain the pinpoint pupils and opiate intoxication. Its from peices of wax ? Uh, right. The wax layer is JUST wax and has no oxycodone in it - the inside part has the oxycodone in it.

 

[DopaMan]

I just pulled my MP off the first google link I found, either way Im still sticking with my argument. Im not saying it doesn't work, I just think it isn't Oxycodone vapors and that it is probably a huge waste.

 

[psychetool]

How the hell do you inhale peices of wax anyways ? I don't even get what the hell you are saying, i'm not getting any 'solids' in my smoke...

 

[Weebl8bob]

The wax vaporizes in with the smoke

 

[psychetool]

I still think you are wrong. Vaporizes in with the smoke ? I suck the coating off first anyways. I sure wish PhreeX was around at times like this, someone who could actually give us an answer instead of speculation. :/

 

[smack11]

hey guys i just read all the comments i have never heard or seen anyone actually smoke ocs i smoke black. why dont you just snort the oc lick the coating off and your good to go it hit you all at once so it the same thing as smoking i tried to smoke endos one cause i was bored but if you put them in a little bit of water then put them on tin foil it kinda works so there go later.

 

[method25]

Now i dont know much about oxys, but i know that if one 40 is too strong for you...then your a pussie . I take 2 40's and have a few beers and im ready to go fine some more....im not saying smoking it doesnt work, in fact im sure it does, but as any experinced drug user will tell you, thats just fucking GROSS, and thats all there is too it.8(

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