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City crooks who come to the countryside and rip off the locals

I don't think there's any correlation between where you're from(urban vs. sub/rural) and whether you're more inclined to rip someone off.

For example, here plenty of motherfuckers in the subs short and steal from others. But, rip a dealer off in Philly, and you better pray you get away alive. With that being said, you talk to anyone from the city and they know not to even think about shit like that. But, plenty of people in the subs have stories about how they or someone else scored shit for free. There is some sort of regulation in the city, usually a Glock.

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Good thing you didn't find them. Aggravated assault, and distribution wouldn't have been a nice addition to your record.
 
PureLife, the net's funny like that -- tone of voice is hard to convey, and body language impossible. I didn't hear a hint of irony in your original post. But hey, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. No hard feelings.

I believe there are crooks in the country and burbs too, and I believe they suck just as badly as city crooks. It's just that the checks against such behavior in rural areas is more often ostracization than murder. If I ripped somebody off in a small town -- even (especially!) on a legal business deal -- my chances of anyone in that town ever wanting anything to do with me ever again would be zilch. My name would be mud. That's the real reason small towns are so safe.

I could see a country crook going to a far-away rural town and pulling some monkey business. But he'd have to do his homework on the place -- in small towns it's harder to pass yourself off as a local when you're not one.

I can imagine the burbs are brimming with this sort of activity, though, because suburban 'mallcore' culture in the US is so homogenous. A person from one suburb is, with maybe a bit of accent modification, more or less interchangeable with someone from any other. Can't say the same for cities or rural towns.

Still, despite my foolish move, I won't back down on two key points:

1) City folks coming to rural areas and taking people for a ride (in any way, not just for drug deals) have a special layer of hell reserved for them. They do this knowing full well that country people are more trusting and that they have no name or reputation to mar there. I now know exactly why Vermonters and Upstate New Yorkers mistrust and poormouth people from NYC hanging out in their towns.

2) As I first stated, exploitation is just much more a way of life in cities than in the country, and is much more on city people's minds. I'm not saying all city people are crooks -- hell, both of my parents and most of my relatives are from big cities -- just that they tend to assume the worst of strangers, out of a survival need. If someone you don't know is 'nice' in a city, either they're trying to exploit you or they're about to get exploited. I didn't grow up thinking this way, and neither did most other kids I grew up with, which is why for all my world travel, at heart I'm a country boy.
 
eh, IMO in the country people arent naive, people are just less childish/selfish.
 
^^^ I can see why you might think that, but as a country guy who's close to a lot of city people, I think a fairer assessment is that you have to prove yourself to city people before they'll give a shit about you. They won't talk to you and be friendly to you just because you're there.
 
^ Agreed. In a city with a population as large as New York City, there is no need to pick up the first person who comes your way, but rather to find someone who fits your criteria of a relationship. It can become quite narrow at times seeing the wide variety of culture there.
 
What city are you talking about? I'm just curious 'cause you seem very jaded about its population.

I don't know of any, from the news or from personal experience, 'city folk' going out to the 'burbs to rip people off. Especially not for drugs. Its the opposite here. The non-urban population floods the city in search of drugs. I mean, you might have someone going out to rob a bank, pull a pyramid scheme, or just simple fraud, but I don't think that's what you're talking about.

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Honestly, it seems to me like you were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. Yeah they were from the city, but it was a festival. I doubt that they went there for the sole purpose or sticking up a pot dealer. It certainly sounds like an opportunistic crime. If it was, then how you looked, where you were(woods), and how you handled yourself and the business set in the opportunity. It could have easily have been some shady guys from the sticks.
 
^^^ If you grew up in a small town in Upstate NY like I did, you'd know what I meant. It takes many forms, including but not limited to:

** Joining local construction crews for projects, then quitting. But making use of the medical and other benefits offered by the job after their quitting date.
** Selling shipments of clothing to local merchants at inflated prices, claiming they're the latest fashion in NYC or Philly, when in fact they just went out of style there.
** Buying up houses and commercial properties in 'quaint' towns, and then renting them out at big city prices that locals can't afford, ensuring that locals will eventually get priced out of towns they've lived in for generations.
** Forming 'street gangs' (little groups of out of town toughs who try to intimidate locals, who aren't used to telling real gangsters from fake ones)
** Renting cheap apartments and turning them into drug houses in college towns, charging inflated prices for low quality products, and ruining the neighborhood's reputation. This has happened TWICE in the SAME UNIT to my present landlord, to the point where he now won't rent to anyone he can tell is from NYC.

As I said, I'm not against all city people. By all means, they're more than welcome to come as tourists to our towns. Hell, they can even move here as long as they treat the locals with respect. My dad's from NYC and my mom's from Buffalo, and they now blend in here just fine. I've got friends and family in both cities. But goddammit, don't move or travel upstate and exploit us!

As to my predicament, yes, I now chalk that up to letting my guard down due to greed.
 
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it's not greed that is to be blamed, the lesson to be learned is to be more precautious. people may be seem well natured but this situation could have been worse. they took you to a secluded place...
 
It sounds like to me that you were robbed of goodwill.

I don't think greed was an issue, certainly not the main one. For 1 1/2 ounces of high high quality cannabis, up to $600 would be a maximum fair price. Even charging slightly more than that does not necessarily mandate a greed 'conviction.'

Question: How much did you ask for the herb and how high was the quality?
 
I like how thieving is nothing to most of you, but narcing is like raping and eating your family. Some of you have some screwed up morals.
 
Morals are pretty relative. According to the mass population, all drug users have 'screwed up morals'. And I don't think you can compare something like theft, to something more along the lines of treason/disloyalty.
 
MyDoorsAreOpen said:
^^^ If you grew up in a small town in Upstate NY like I did, you'd know what I meant. It takes many forms...
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but isn't the distance between Upstate NY and NYC a fair amount of time? I say this because it took me a decent 5 hours to get to Rochester from out West where I stay at. I thought about visiting the City but then I realized it would take almost 5 more hours!!

so my question is how can these folks from a city permit such a problem if the perps live so far away?? or am I misguided?
 
AxL BLaZe said:
but isn't the distance between Upstate NY and NYC a fair amount of time? I say this because it took me a decent 5 hours to get to Rochester from out West where I stay at. I thought about visiting the City but then I realized it would take almost 5 more hours!!

so my question is how can these folks from a city permit such a problem if the perps live so far away?? or am I misguided?
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"Upstate NY" is a relative term. You can be talking about the Catskills as "upstate" in relation to NYC, or you could be talking about Fredonia (god, why did I waste so much time going there so many times? Oh, right) which is... 9 - 11 hours away or so (don't remember exactly anymore). We city dwellers do come out pretty far for an occasional festival or to go to a school upstate, though.
 
phrozen said:
Morals are pretty relative. According to the mass population, all drug users have 'screwed up morals'. And I don't think you can compare something like theft, to something more along the lines of treason/disloyalty.
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Oh bullshit, thieving is just as treasonous/disloyal to a person than narcing. No difference. The only reason people hate narcing more is because they have a hatred boner against cops and that idiotic "street code" pfftt I'm not wild about narcing but that people here say thieving is just a part of things should apply that same view to narcing.
 
they're both the lowest scum mofo's out, but I'd trust a thief over a narc anyday, atleast theives do what they do with the intention of achieving something, narcs just do it out of the black spiteful mudhole that is their heart...
 
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I think he's touching on how I was feeling. I've been around and friends with thieves, but narcs, fuck no. Thieves are accepted and even looked up to, but narcs get fuckin' shot. Now keep in mind the people I'm talking about are all in the "game" to some degree or another so they accept a lot of shit normal people don't.
 
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