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Cocaine Citric acid & converting freebase cocaine for intravenous injection questions

HOP SING TONG

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Hello fellow Bluelighters!

Since this is my first thread here I would just like to quickly say hi to all of my fellow forum-goers. I am very much looking forward to participating in this diverse and informative community here among like-minded intelligent people, both learning from you all and sharing my personal knowledge and experiences with mind-altering substances. I have been a lurker here for roughly 5 or more years, and used to have an account which I have long since lost access to; not that I was in any way a contributing member or regular poster.

Before creating this thread so as to not make the commonly seen error of cluttering the forums with another redundant thread I did my due diligence, thoroughly scouring results from here, google, other similar forums and even a few harm reduction pdf files I had on my computer. Unfortunately when it comes to my specific inquiry there is much dispute among various people as to what is actually correct and I'm having significant difficulty obtaining a concrete answer, especially from a source who themselves have first-hand knowledge and experience on the subject.

Sadly I have lately been unable to procure my usual supply of regular powder cocaine hcl, yet I have consistent access to very good quality crack and actual base cocaine made the proper way with ether/ammonia and all that. Currently I'm sitting on some very good crack, and I am unable to determine exactly how much citric acid I should be using to free the cocaine from the base and break it down for IV use. I'd obviously much rather be slamming soft, but sometimes you're stuck in my situation where it's simply not around as much as it may befuddle me.

I have a big bag of pure citric acid powder, looks like sugar granules...what I have been doing thus far is smashing the rocks of coke into the finest possible powder, adding a milliliter of regular water into the spoon, and then stirring and slowly adding more granules of the citric acid as it (very slowly) begins to dissolve the cocaine particles into the water. I try to use as little of the citric as possible, because even when using a very very small pinch it still burns quite a bit upon injection, and I'm adding additional water before I do the shot. I filter three times as I'm out of micron filters, so I first filter through sterile dental cotton with an oral syringe, and then squirt that into a different sterile spoon and repeat before drawing up into the actual syringe I inject with. I notice that there is still some small grains left after filtering the first time, not sure if it's cocaine bits that didn't go into solution, or rather excess granules of the citric.

Anyone experienced with this have any ideas or recommendations? I have access to a very accurate scale (not a milligram scale, but one step below) as well as many glass test tubes/vials, measuring syringes, etc. Would it be a better idea to first dissolve the citric into some water and then add it to the crushed rock powder in the spoon bit by bit until it dissolves the cocaine completely, and then add additional plain water to make it less caustic to the veins?

Sorry for the length, and thanks in advance. Hope to make new friends and learn some new things here :)
 
ascorbic acid is what's commonly used around these parts to shoot crack and heroin. i've done it on occasion and it feels fucking incredible.
 
no man you don't tell somebody to smoke crack.
dude just pulverize the crack and pour some white vinegar over it
and some ethanol, stir, filter and evaporate on petri dish
 
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You're absolutely doing it the best way possible. We want to use as little of the acid as possible, (as you probably already know) we only want enough to protonate (bind to) the cocaine base to make it water soluble, anything more than that will not react and just add to the acidity of your solution. So continue doing it your way, if you still have something left over it could be inactives, or a small amount of cocaine that didn't get dissolved due to not quite enough citric. You may want to add a tiny bit of heat as you add the citric as that will make sure everything has the energy it needs to go into solution since sometimes cool water won't dissolve everything. (Think sugar in cold water...doesn't fully dissolve, right? Add heat!) Keep up the good technique!

P.S Are you really a member of a Hop Sing Tong? Cause that'd be cool if you were!
 
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