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China White/No. 4 Heroin

sirLane

sirLane

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Just picked up some nice No.4
Not sure if its really No. 4 or maybe just cut and fentanyl?
No.4 doesnt have the vinegar smell does it? or any smell?
I'm not sure just trying to see what I have.
Gives a really nice high.
I could post some pics if you want but its not really decisive.
Thanks for all opinions.
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^yea w/o your location its hard to tell what it is. if you are on the east coast of the US it is prolly #4 or heroin HCL....good dope, nice and clean consistancy when made into solution, good rush and high.

most the dope ive had has had a smell of some kindl i live in the northeast so most of the dope is SA in origin, but yeah, it usually smells like vinegar and thiamine (B12)
 
It's unlikely that it's cut with fentanyl. But not impossible.

As for the name "china white," it was originally a term used to describe white SEA heroin(think Hong Kong). Eventually, it was applied to amf stateside in CA. Now, in the US, it's sometimes used for both. It's not a popular term on the street or amongst the average heroin user.
 
The vinegar smell is a result of ACETIC ACID impurities. When dopes been heavily purified, it wont have any vinegar smell.

If it has a vinegar smell, its half-assed heroin. Meaning they didint bother purifying it to no ends. Most heroin will have a vinegar smell because the producers dont care about getting it anywhere beyond the 90% mark of purity. What do you think the other 10% is?? Ill guarantee some of it is acetic acid unreacted and uncleaned from the final product. If youve ever smelt acetic acid youd know what im saying. That stuff reaks to high heaven and beyond, you open a bottle of acetic acid and aliens on mars can smell that shit.

Any other smells are the results of the millions of possible cuts they could be using in street grade dope.

TRULY pure dope, will have no odor detectable by a humans nose (now dogs, thats a different story). It STINKS of vinegar when first made. After youve purified it numerous times over, the smell will be gone.

If your dope dont smell, thats a GOOD sign, means the person actually put effort into purifying it, and then cut it with odorless cuts to boot. Injecting acetic acid impurities is just disgusting. Heroin can have MANY possible smells, based on the cuts used. But if its pure dope, it wont smell. If its your average 'pure' dope (90% SEA #4 for example, the stuff you get in the 700 gram unit bricks) will smell like vinegar, because they never go beyond the 90% mark, the amount of effort it takes to get beyond that % of purity is alot of work and not worth it to the "big boys". Most dope should smell like vinegar. But just because it doesnt, doesnt mean its fake dope. Just means its well made dope.
 
Op

i live around dallas tx. ive never even heard of no. 4 around here. we're so close to mexico that most of the stuff is cut from tar or is tar. so this is totally new to me and i was trying to get peoples opinions.

it has almost no smell at all. but the high is very nice and mellow not like normal heroin. it almost feels "cleaner" if you can understand what i mean. the only smells are of the cut i know he uses. im thinking its probably some kind of pharmaceutical opiate cut with the normal cut my guy uses. im not sure of what he uses probably dormin or something water soluble.

when prepared for iv the stuff readily dissolves in the water and doesnt require the normal cookdown (but its still a good idea to do so) i didnt mainline it yet but my friend has so i cant really describe it.

thanks for all the replies so far. any more ideas or questions?
 
sirLane said:
i live around dallas tx. ive never even heard of no. 4 around here. we're so close to mexico that most of the stuff is cut from tar or is tar. so this is totally new to me and i was trying to get peoples opinions.
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As im sure you know, the Colombia #4 occasionally moves through Mexico. This is becoming increasingly popular, because the Mexican groups have a more easily accessible route of trafficking into the USA verse. the Colombians traditional route of the carribean and mainly the Dominican Republic.

Expect more Colo #4 to be entering southwest USA as time goes on.

Additionally, the DEA has well documented the fact that to compete with the higher purity Colombian heroin, they (mexican cartels) have been producing larger and larger amounts of #4 instead of tar. This could also be the source of your southwest #4.

Either way, if its getting you nice and high, dont worry bout it! The more "mellow" high could easily be related to cutting with Quinine, its a muscle relaxant.
 
Additionally, the DEA has well documented the fact that to compete with the higher purity Colombian heroin, they (mexican cartels) have been producing larger and larger amounts of #4 instead of tar. This could also be the source of your southwest #4.
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What documentation from the DEA have you seen that says the Mexicans are producing powdered #4? (Tar isn't on the list but it is essentially #4)

As for the quinine, you need quite a bit of it(>300mg) for it to be an effective muscle relaxer. And that would be a hell of a lot of cut dope...


Edit: Good to see you figured out that tricky numbering system.
 
explain to me all the terms associated with heroin, units provided in, and the terms for the syringe rig or w/e its called.
and diff vareitys as well?
 
gethigh said:
explain to me all the terms associated with heroin, units provided in, and the terms for the syringe rig or w/e its called.
and diff vareitys as well?
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Well, you can start by actually reading through this thread, and then try using the the search engine, because what you're asking has been covered endlessly in countless threads on this site.

Seriously, can anyone be that lazy? Does your mom lay out your clothes for you to wear every morning too?
 
GH- you asked an extremely broad series of questions, all of which have been covered many times. The suggestion to search was a good one, if you do it you'll find a lot of interesting information, certainly more than you'll get as a response to what you wrote. If you need help searching, just ask- there's no need to attack anyone, most people are pretty helpful.
 
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personally I loathe tar. I miss my east coast tan smack so much. It would be cool to have an appetizer sampler booth, a shot or rail of all the pure different types of dope from all around the world. i think id have to visit that booth a couple time
 
well im still not sure. id bang it but id rather not iv something im not sure about. i still think its prob some pharm opiate. but its still good :)
 
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