China Cracks Down Some More On Drugs With Beijing Bar Raid

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China Cracks Down Some More On Drugs With Beijing Bar Raid
By Matt Schiavenza
August 12 2014

Beijing police raided 2 Kolegas, a bar and live music venue popular with the city’s expatriate population, over the weekend and administered on-the-spot urine tests to patrons. According to Stephen McDonnell, an Australian journalist who was at the bar at the time of the raid, at least 10 patrons were arrested, including four foreigners, who now face deportation.

The arrests have occurred during a period of intensified anti-drug efforts in the country, where the distribution and consumption of narcotics are strictly prohibited. In remarks timed to coincide with International Day against Drug Abuse and Illicit Trafficking, president Xi Jinping pledged to crack down on drug-related crimes, and on July 6, China’s State Council, or cabinet, issued guidelines for a “people’s war” against narcotic use.

According to the Ministry of Public Security, China arrested an estimated 168,000 suspects for drug crimes in 2013, an increase of 20 percent from the year before, and in the first five months of 2014, the number of people sentenced for drug crimes rose 27 percent year-on-year. The arrests have affected a broad cross-section of society: On Tuesday, actor Gao Wu became the latest in a series of celebrities to be caught possessing illegal drugs.

Chinese nationals account for the vast majority of drug arrests in the country, but the country’s anti-narcotics campaigns occasionally ensnare foreigners. In late May, police arrested 30 suspected drug dealers, including 10 foreigners, in Beijing’s Sanlitun district, a neighborhood known for its lively nightlife. Drug dealing can be a capital offense in China; in a 2011 case that attracted significant controversy, the Chinese government sentenced a South African woman to death for trafficking.

According to Gloria Lai, the senior policy officer for the International Drug Policy Consortium and an expert on drug laws in Asia, drug use on the whole appears to be rising in China, where the country’s Ministry of Public Security reports 2.58 million registered users. But a lack of research and analysis of China’s drug trade, combined with limited government transparency, hamper efforts to ascertain the actual number.

“It’s incredibly difficult to get an accurate understanding of the extent of drug use in China because it is such a severely punished activity, and therefore quite hidden,” she said.

China has increasingly focused its anti-drug efforts on methamphetamines, a drug once rarely seen in the country. In January, police forces conducted a mass raid of methamphetamine manufacturers in the village of Boshe, Guangdong Province, arresting 182 suspects and seizing three tons of the drug: According to the United Nations Office on Drugs and Crime’s just-released 2014 report, 1.27 million of the country’s registered drug users were addicted to opiates. much of which coming from poppies grown in neighboring Myanmar.

In his remarks given on June 26th, Xi Jinping acknowledged that China still “faces serious challenges in banning drugs, which is an arduous and long-term task.” The country has attracted criticism from Human Rights Watch for failing to rehabilitate addicts, citing a 2008 law that allows government officials to incarcerate drug users for up to seven years. Lai, for her part, believes that the country’s efforts to lessen demand for drugs is not working.

“China’s current policy of detaining people who use drugs, in the name of ‘rehabilitation,’, and imposing other punitive and heavily stigmatizing measures on them is very costly and counterproductive,” she said.

http://www.ibtimes.com/china-cracks-down-some-more-drugs-beijing-bar-raid-1656586

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Random piss tests at bars.. good fucking lord. When are we going to tell them to go fuck themselves in the smelly hole?
 
I'd much rather get caught for simple possession in China than in the United States. From what I've read, they'll hold you in jail for a couple days and then deport you.
 
Damn, I am in China right now reading this... Just was in the Sanlitun area (though I didn't see any drugs and would probably be too scared to buy any if offered).
But forced piss tests in a bar is pretty crazy shit.

Don't disagree with you that it is crazy, but given this tactic is not particularly uncommon throughout South East Asia (from what I have read any way,) it is not particularly surprising that China would also employ this tactic to catch current and deter future drug users.
 
I'd much rather get caught for simple possession in China than in the United States. From what I've read, they'll hold you in jail for a couple days and then deport you.

Keeping in mind, at least in the US, that a deportation from a foreign country back to the US will come up in any criminal background check from that point on. When it comes to applying for jobs and professional licenses, a deportation is about as damning as a felony conviction or a dishonorable discharge from the military to have on your rap sheet. I'd also hope that anyone who choses this route doesn't anticipate ever having to go to China again -- be ready to kiss some serious keister if you want any hope of being issued another visa. And even if you're contrite, rich, and well-connected enough to make this happen, be ready for a brusque shakedown border crossing, and enough surveillance your entire trip to make a sober man paranoid.

Spot piss tests of foreigners in foreigner-oriented nightspots -- and then immediate deportations and/or criminal penalties for those who fail -- are an Asian classic. I've heard anecdotal reports of this in Korea, Japan, and Singapore. Doesn't shock me at all the Chinese have gotten in on this. And no, you don't really have any good legal recourse against this in any of these countries. They don't care if you're only pissing positive because you last used in a different country; the fact that you ever have had anything to do with illegal drugs is enough to make you riffraff in these governments' eyes.

Now the question is, is the Chinese government more concerned about their image as an up and coming destination for drug tourism, or about the money to be made by fining drug users?
 
Keeping in mind, at least in the US, that a deportation from a foreign country back to the US will come up in any criminal background check from that point on. When it comes to applying for jobs and professional licenses, a deportation is about as damning as a felony conviction or a dishonorable discharge from the military to have on your rap sheet.

That doesn't sound right. A criminal conviction in the USA is done in an open court where you have rights and can appeal. China is not a free country, I would think their convictions in a kangeroo court would hold no water in the USA. In Canada I have only heard of sex predators convicted over seas being added to the sex offender registry, but as I understood it drug convictions in Asia should have no bearing on future employment. It's not like your local police department keeps criminal record files from china. I don't understand how people who do background check have access to anything more than media reports.
 
That doesn't sound right. A criminal conviction in the USA is done in an open court where you have rights and can appeal. China is not a free country, I would think their convictions in a kangeroo court would hold no water in the USA. In Canada I have only heard of sex predators convicted over seas being added to the sex offender registry, but as I understood it drug convictions in Asia should have no bearing on future employment. It's not like your local police department keeps criminal record files from china. I don't understand how people who do background check have access to anything more than media reports.

I should clarify this. Clearly the US government has no access to your Chinese criminal record, and vice versa. And as far as I've been told, the details about what inspired the Chinese government to deport you are not part of what comes up in a background check. What does appear, however, was that US Customs an Immigration were notified by the Chinese government that they were forcibly returning one of their citizens to them. There is a communication that takes place between two governments when a citizen is deported. The receiving country's agreement to receive their citizen back, and acknowledgement that (s)he has arrived home through the proper channels, serve as documentation to the deporting country that they're truly rid of him. If the deporting country doesn't trust the citizen's home country to communicate well, promptly, or truthfully about having received a particularly unwanted citizen back, they may send someone from their embassy to the port of arrival to witness and document the deportee's successful arrival home. Your home government has had to "handle" you and you've been a person of interest to them, and that goes on your permanent record.

So this leaves you having to explain yourself. Yes, it's a lot better than having the details of your foreign criminal charges spelled out in detail. But it raises a lot of eyebrows. If a country would make the effort to forcibly remove you and let your home country know you're no longer welcome there, especially if the details of why are left out, this would make an employer wonder what kinds of trouble you're capable of stirring up.

I would imagine that a deportation from a country that the US wasn't on friendly diplomatic terms with, or had a reputation for shady judicial proceedings or human rights abuses, would be a lot easier to smooth over with "it wasn't my fault", than one from a country known for being fair, transparent, and upholding of law and order.
 
Report from a journalist caught in the raid

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-18/mcdonell-cornered-in-a-drug-raid---beijing-style/5677276

Returning from the Ukraine war zone, I met up with friends for a few beers in the Beijing summer night. So there we were outside "Dos Kolegas": a venue popular with both Chinese and foreigners with its cheap and cheerful approach and especially because of its support of the vibrant live music scene here.

When about a dozen police turned up, both uniformed and plain clothed, this was not going to be a noise complaint matter.

I heard an officer order one of his juniors to block all exits and to not let anybody leave. He asked one man if he was running the bar. Sure enough he was. The boss was then told to instruct all present to do the following : "Foreigners show your passports", "Chinese show your ID cards".

"This is a random test by municipal police," the officer said. "Tell them to cooperate with us."
Audio: Random urine tests now part of Beijing hospitality (Correspondents Report)

They took down everyone's name, phone number, and settled for a passport number or ID number. I was asked who I worked for.

This was a drug raid.
 
Id rather get caught with Drugs than a bible over there! Anyone that goes to china to party is NOT in the right state of mind. :P
 
Jackie Chan's son Jaycee Chan caught in huge anti-drug crackdown

Beijing: Jaycee Chan, the son of kung fu mega-star Jackie Chan, has been arrested in Beijing on drug-related charges amid an anti-drug crackdown that has already netted thousands - including several celebrity scalps - in mainland China.
Beijing police confirmed on Monday that it had, acting on a tip-off, arrested the 32-year-old Chan on Thursday, along with his friend, 23-year-old Taiwanese movie star Kai Ko Chen-tung and other suspects.
Police said the bust, at Mr Chan’s home in Beijing’s Dongcheng district, uncovered more than 100 grams of marijuana, and that their urine tested positive for the drug.

News of their detention has caused a media sensation across Hong Kong, Taiwan and mainland China because of their high-profile, with Mr Ko in particular achieving popularity among younger audiences for his roles in You Are the Apple of My Eye and the Tiny Times franchise.
The younger Chan, who was brought up in Los Angeles and is also known as Fang Zuming, followed his father into the entertainment industry but has instead made more headlines for a string of box office failures and a reportedly fraught relationship with his dad.
In April 2011, the elder Chan revealed he had written his son out of his will, preferring instead, he said, to leave his wealth to charitable causes around the world.
“If he is capable, he can make his own money,” he told Singapore’s Channel NewsAsia. “If he is not, then he will just be wasting my money.”

Jackie Chan, who was appointed an official anti-drug ambassador by the Chinese government in 2009, has also previously pledged to report his son to police himself if he ever went astray, so he “gets sent to jail”.
The detention of Mr Chan and Mr Ko follows an announcement last week that 42 entertainment and performance agencies had struck an agreement, organised by the Beijing Trade Association for Performances, to boycott celebrities that take drugs. Popular actor Gao Hu, and screenwriter Ning Caishen, former panellist for popular dating show If You’re The One, have been among those arrested for drug offences in recent weeks.

But the broader context has been an edict from the central government, with President Xi Jinping calling for “forceful measures to wipe [drugs] out” just before the International Day against Drug Abuse and Illicit Trafficking on June 26.
In Beijing, drug-related arrests between April and August were up 35 per cent from the same period last year.

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Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/jackie-...-crackdown-20140819-105lpf.html#ixzz3AmBmzmr2
 
Jackie Chan, who was appointed an official anti-drug ambassador by the Chinese government in 2009, has also previously pledged to report his son to police himself if he ever went astray, so he “gets sent to jail”.

No need, mate. They got there before you. Happy now?
 
Too funny considering how many of us here in the states buy a lot of our drugs from online sites located in China.
I guess it's cool to sell bootleg opiates/adderall/benzos but street drugs like weed are a no no...
 
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