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"Chill" pills vs. energizing pills

Bsiren

Bsiren

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I've noticed some pills floooorrrrr me and don't really make me very "thinky" or talkative- just very peacefull and social. :|

Some pills make me want to dance my ass off, go outside and talk and hug everyone, then go dance, and think while dancing about how beautiful life is...etc. :D

Both testing "clean" and the same....I'm guessing some pills are cut with mild stimulants, whereas pther might be cut with some non-MDMA MDxx or something that seriously chillllls you out to combat the "tweakiness" a few people complain about...

Anyone else experience this? Theories?

Perhaps I'm a bit odd- but I actually preffer feeling bright and energetic, and I haven't had that response to pills/molly in months. Could also be a different response I'm personally developing...
 
Yeah some pills I had before just made me entirly not want to move just made me want to stay there and enjoy my roll. While some made me want to dance and want to do stuff. Its just probably a bit of meth or caffine cut into the pills.
 
Very pure MDMA can sometimes basically floor you. Pure MDMA by nature does not really make you very active and want to dance, and sometimes you can even roll too hard off of very good MDMA so that you aren't inclined to move a lot.
 
The effects are often determined by how much you take.

Remember every single pill will have a different ammount of active ingredient.


Also it depends what the active ingredient is to start with..........maybe your not getting mdma?

Its also dependent on what the cuts are. Just because it has some mdma does not mean thats the only active ingredient.
 
I think even you had a pre-measured amount of pure MDMA, the setting could also play a role. Maybe sometimes you're just into dancing and other times you're more into chilling. MDMA can provide a wide variety of experiences.
 
For like kickbacks and stuff I'll get some of those downers that'll just make me enjoy everything.. But for events when I wanna dance(i love dancing at events) I usually always get uppers.
 
If you were munchin pokeballz (as I have) then you would know that they are ultra strong beans and it only take 1 to get some good effexs. I always pop 2-4 just cause I m always rollin extra tough though I could see how some wouldnt be able to handle it.
 
only had a chilled roll once, and i think that was because it was a smaller amount. i much prefer the uppy dancy run around type of roll, if i wanted to chill out i'd just drink and smoke dope. i think its just what other ingredients it has, like caffiene etc, as well as amount of actual mdma.
 
I think a lot of people underestimate the strength of caffeine – it’s a very common cut/bulking agent and can make very clean MDMA feel speedy (especially if you don’t drink coffee often).

I read a lot of reports where people mention speed like effects (on clean pills) and I’m convinced its caffeine (or stuff like ephedrine etc) being used as a bulking agent. I know of a few people who use caffeine pills with Molly so it gives them that little bit extra energy. It’s pretty easy to see if your sensitive to caffeine - if you have a few chill rolls, take one with half of a caffeine pill and see the difference!
 
doesn't caffeine cause neurotoxicity when combined with mdma though? cuz ive wanted to combine some caffeine with pokeballs, but the thought of neurotoxicity just deters me. to be honest, i prefer uppy rolls. but then again, i dont like the thought of meth in my brain haha.
 
^its probably the biggest and frequently used bulker/filler in all pills!

Yes it has been proven that Caffeine will potentiate the hypothermic tendencies of MDMA but in very high amounts IV'd.

I think out of all the ‘stims’ we know that caffeine (in a low/moderate dose) is probably the safest one to combine with MDMA for a more upbeat roll.
 
I looked up all the pill repts of my "upbeat" pills and one in paticular tested w tiny amounts of amphetamines (non MDMA).

It ain't caffeine in my case, as I consume caffeine daily
 
If I'm at the mall or a rave or dance or somewhere I wanna move, I'd take an energizing upper pill. But if I'm with a girl at her house or something I prefer chill pills for cuddling :)
 
Bearlove said:
I think a lot of people underestimate the strength of caffeine – it’s a very common cut/bulking agent and can make very clean MDMA feel speedy (especially if you don’t drink coffee often).

I read a lot of reports where people mention speed like effects (on clean pills) and I’m convinced its caffeine (or stuff like ephedrine etc) being used as a bulking agent. I know of a few people who use caffeine pills with Molly so it gives them that little bit extra energy. It’s pretty easy to see if your sensitive to caffeine - if you have a few chill rolls, take one with half of a caffeine pill and see the difference!
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lol BL you are using the American terms when in the general forum I love it!

I too get superstitious about the effects of pills. MDMA does have stimulant properties and they may be expressed differently based on dose, set and setting, the amount of sleep you have had -- etc... and I agree with BLs assertion that other factors such as alcohol, caffeine and other agents can make a surprising difference
 
Let's not forget that the MA in MDMA is methamphetamine...I suspect if a pill is super chill there's another MDxx at hand, ketamine or something else...
 
MasterSplinter said:
If you were munchin pokeballz (as I have) then you would know that they are ultra strong beans and it only take 1 to get some good effexs. I always pop 2-4 just cause I m always rollin extra tough though I could see how some wouldnt be able to handle it.
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lolz, this post speaks for itself



BUT ANYWAYS, what usually determines the 'chilled' versus 'energizing' factor of a roll is the presence of amphetamines, some people get really annoyed at amp being in their pills (and rightfully so) but I personally think it adds an energetic edge to the experience that's very enjoyable :)

Everybody has their tastes.
 
Bsiren said:
Let's not forget that the MA in MDMA is methamphetamine...I suspect if a pill is super chill there's another MDxx at hand, ketamine or something else...
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In the UK they hardly ever add extra ingredients to MDMA pills other than caffeine -- from their perspective it's just too risky. MDMA is already the most costly thing to produce so why would they add another substance that might risk putting people off and damaging the stamps reputation. Sometimes a small amount of MDMA is added to pip pills to fool the tester.

Breaking the general rule I set above though; last year we had 2 rolex Methedrone/MDMA pills which most people thought at the time was a very high dose of MDEA but actually had a low-ish dose of MDMA.

I understand that outside of europe though that amp is often added to pills.
 
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