Chicago Heroin v Fuck Dormin

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They're great in their own right, but yeah they're not the fun and games they were when I was a kid. I would do anything to go back to being 15-16 and getting started off. So magical. Now I feel a little dead on the inside.
It's a bitch to have to fight back against your desires all the time. Luckily I'm not dependent right now. We'll see how long it lasts this time...
Sucks knowing I will never go back to normal. Once that door is wide open it can never fully shut again.
 
^You can forget about it and carry on for awhile....but once you've experienced it, it always resurfaces, for me at least....I'm completely off opiates, and yet lately, it's hard to get them off my mind! I'll always love heroin!
 
BlueHues said:
^You can forget about it and carry on for awhile....but once you've experienced it, it always resurfaces, for me at least....I'm completely off opiates, and yet lately, it's hard to get them off my mind! I'll always love heroin!
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yeah this has been going on for years and years. i've been playing with them for about 9 years, the last 4-5 have been habitual. There have been times I have been clean for a while, sometimes once in a blue, I completely stopped for about 8 months at one point before it came back and i got to my worst ever. At this point I'm still using an average of about twice a week so it's not a big problem at all, but I can't see how I'll ever stop completely till my current connect stops dealing tbh...
 
Yeah, if I have a source, I have a lot more trouble controlling myself....If I have no connect, it seems a little easier to avoid the temptaion of looking for a new one!
 
BlueHues said:
Yeah, if I have a source, I have a lot more trouble controlling myself....If I have no connect, it seems a little easier to avoid the temptaion of looking for a new one!
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yah same for me, if i dont have a source i wont go looking but one day some asshole introduced me to the westside open from 430am to 1030pm every day 24x7x365 :( i need to get out of this city.

Always the first couple of weeks are awesome but when it gets to the point where your only using so u can get up and function thats such a stressful feeling and the anxiety when you know your about out and your not sure if your going to be able to score in time.

I really had a huge collection of pharms i got prescribed months ago from a doc , covered everything, the right combo almost made stopping easy (outside the mental). But my girl just flipped out one day saying im replacing one with another and while i was in full blown w/d just dumped 20-25 bottles of pharms down the toilet.

on a 10-12 bag a day habit how bad do you guys think the first day with sub will be?
 
HighonLife said:
qouted for truth

also quoted in case anyone lurking or anyone dabblin can have it jump out at em

people talk from experience around here, opiates are only fun n games during the honeymoon
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Brad Nowell said:
(Singer, Songwriter, Guitarist- Sublime)

Lyin' in my plastic bed
thinkin' how things weren't so cool to me
my baby like to shoot pool
like lyin' naked in my bedroom
tying on the dinosaur tonight
it used to be so cool

now i got the needle
and i can shake but i can't breath
i take it away
but i want more, and more
one day i'm gonna lose the war.
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Summed it up.
 
HighonLife said:
^^right.

sometimes ill read through this thread n it'll make me miss dope, but this last page doesnt make me miss it at all, actually makes me happy i am where i am
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thats why i say if your tryin to get and stay clean..that you stay away from this site

stack31337 said:
Can you reverse the PWD with dope or would it make it worse? Ive done dope a day after taking a sub, heck even around 12-14 hours after and never got sick, didnt feel high but it took away some of the shitty feeling, or it could be mental.
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i dont think you can cause the subs are there to block the dope..ive never had the PWD but i thouhgt they only last like 20-30min at the most
stack31337 said:
I really had a huge collection of pharms i got prescribed months ago from a doc , covered everything, the right combo almost made stopping easy (outside the mental). But my girl just flipped out one day saying im replacing one with another and while i was in full blown w/d just dumped 20-25 bottles of pharms down the toilet.

on a 10-12 bag a day habit how bad do you guys think the first day with sub will be?
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the first day on subs wont be anything..you will take it and in about 30mins you will feel normal, thats it. thats the problem with people and subs, they think subs are some super magic pill and all this other shit. or they might be looking for a little high that methadone gives you and it wont do thatr either. chances are when you take the subs, it wont be until like an hour later that you will realize "damn i feel pretty damn good"..your WDs wont instantly go away as if you just did a bag or anything else, your Wds will be there and like i said they just go away sometime during that hour. just be patient cause people expect to feel instantly better so they take another pill or a half of one and then another..a little goes a long way..start out at 4-6mg and work yout way up if that dont work...also dont redose until you feel sick again, just dont redose the nect day ause you got the itch to use and feel like it, if your not feeling any Wd symptoms, then dont take it..and when you do finally redose, take half the amount you orginally took..IME your biggest dose will be the first dose you stop the opiates. so if you take 6mg to start, try taking only 3mg from then on and after a week or so try and go down a little more..and only do this if you foind it to work, if the 3mgs arent enough then by all means do a little more, but like i said i find the best way to do it is how i explained
 
Like i.said befor, Cicero grinds is my inspiration,if you ,an get clean maybe I ,an too.no pressure. Good luck I gotta stop I have this feeling of impending doom,like something really bad is gonna happen to me.
 
chefman said:
Like i.said befor, Cicero grinds is my inspiration,if you ,an get clean maybe I ,an too.no pressure. Good luck I gotta stop I have this feeling of impending doom,like something really bad is gonna happen to me.
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That's a bad spot to be in Chef. Just take your time with any decisions.
 
you can do it chefman have a plan and stick to it,mind over matter brother.. my plan was based on i know what works for me lot of people might of said i tappered of the subs too quick but i made it thru it... i do recommend jumping off from .25 on the subs also i find taking it as late in the day as possable helped me actually get some sleep ..prob. because there was more sub in my system when i went to bed .. it also really helps that i took myself away from all the dope i am staying out by my gf's house and disconnected my cell phone as i feel like this gonna be my last chance to turn my life around .... goodluck all
 
Thanks Cicero,I have to quit cause something bad is gonna happen,I can fellit,fot scure, I m positivm somthig dab down tho
 
Good luck to both of you guys!
Fuckin opiates are a nasty nasty habit. Fun at first, useless there after
 
chefman said:
Like i.said befor, Cicero grinds is my inspiration,if you ,an get clean maybe I ,an too.no pressure. Good luck I gotta stop I have this feeling of impending doom,like something really bad is gonna happen to me.
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Sounds like a good time to quit. I've been sober from opiates since March, so if you or anyone else ever need to talk about getting clean then just send me a PM.

I had that same feeling along with night terrors for 6 months but I didn't listen. I ended up overdosing and spending a few days in a coma after spending a few minutes dead. Shit even that wasn't enough for me to quit, but 5 years later I finally quit.
 
RecklessWOT said:
Summed it up.
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pretty much


be careful yall

and good luck n my best wishes to all yall who are tryin to quit


Chink: yea i stayed outta the dope threads for months n then finally i started pokin my head around again

no interest in goin back to the life,

does dope ever tempt me? hell yea but it stays at temptation, i do my best not to look for it, not to talk with people i know who are still using (aside from random txts askin em how they're doing)

sucks tho cuz its like that James brown song King heroin "but you'd pick me up right now if i was in your reach"

true story ive stayed away from dope for awhile but if it was right in front of me then things would get alot harder, like to think id be able to say no but i am pretty confident thats wishful thinking

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CmM5g_uBcfY
 
chefman said:
I guess I'm not ready to hit the
Bench yet
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I'm been on the bups five days now. Feel pretty good. Not missin dope yet. Should stop hanging around here though. I guess I like the vicariousness of checking what the other fiends are up to. My homey from out west called who was going to meet his man and I'm like I gotta go. It's hard to stay off when you get reminded all the time. Chef you have subs or you go 'methadone. Also to the person who has a 14 bag a day habit. If that's true you definitely just can't start subs right away you need to wait until you're truly sick because that's a huge habit the subs will def cause pwd if you go too soon.
 
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