Chicago Heroin II

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it sounds like most of the people here go to the west side/ open air market and buy the blows...Does anyone here actually get RAW? It seems like this forum is giving chicago kinda bad name for dope..but ya'll gotta skip the runners, don't buy those bags with pictures and shit on them. Twist your connects arm to give you a bag of raw (usually means you'll have to pick up a half G at the very least). Hopefully they'll turn you to bossman..and ya'll shall find out what chicago dope really is about. :)

In the Chi I've tried off-white powdered blows(shit you all talk about), brown powder, tar, and off-white powder RAW and the order of strength-in general- has been:

4. west side off-white blows
3. tar
2. brown powder
1.off-white RAW (by far)

anybody else agree? disagree?

Interesting post. For Chicago. I'm from NJ but I like following the Chicago thread, seems like a good scene. I knew a guy who had an insane habit in Chicago, he lived in Humboltd Park or whatever.. he used to just buy grams of raw and skip all the other stuff. He could only get high off the raw, his tolerance was that bad.
 
Heh, I know what you're talking about... "bossman"

Another bluelighter i knew here and I once traveled to the southside to meet a boss...

and the dope we got was Off the CHAIN!

that's all i can describe it as.

He just threw me a rock... it weighed more than a gram he didn't care (stepped out the 'lac smelling like some DANK ass chronic (a nd i smoke purple kush and shit all day for like 6 years now i know what im talking about...)

Anyway, back to the dope. It was jsut brown... and hard as a stone... i'd throw it against the wall and it would just bounce off and not break...

you couldn't snort it.... i was puttin down the smallest flakes into the spoon and gettin blowwwnnnnn!!!

Awww, reminiscing is tearful, but shit. west side is pussy compared to southsideeeee 3-4x the amount of crackheads roaming the streets in teh area I wuzzz

EDIT: in reguards to earlier discussion... this dude kept me waiting for almost 2 FUCKING HOURSSS HIS LAZY ASS SMOKING BLUNTS... what a dick... but seirously best dope i ever had thought it was a joke cuz i only seen corner foils and icecream bags until then. im talking 2006-07 brown icecream bags in southside WERE GOOD as well but not anything compare dto this dense little brown rock.
 
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Awww, reminiscing is tearful, but shit. west side is pussy compared to southsideeeee 3-4x the amount of crackheads roaming the streets in teh area I wuzzz

Jo...lots of good looking hypes or no???? JO...I was out in the Ickies,,CHinatown...n there was this hype that looked like Stacey Dash if she had brown eyes and smoked like dammit a broken stove...oooh wee, she'd have any mawfucka partin ways with an ole sawbuck to get up in it
 
wont be the last time...


but its kinda funny, your guy took forever and if you look at what i posted last night..my dude had never been quicker...im sure it wasnt his runner he was just tellin you what you wanted to hear cause he knew you wernt gonna go no where else

Nah dont get me wrong, I got like 3-4 regular connects, none of them are numbers of west side spots either.... In fact I just got a connect last night for dubs in caps... And another for some super dank dubs in reg bags. Anyways, I was only going to this dude because he has the best shit, his raw is $200 and its well worth it, almost pure I'd have to say... Anyway, out of the couple years I've been going to this guy none of my friends have ever met him and I've never had him come by himself, also he NEVER cuts deals, even on holidays. But I love picking up on christmas :)
 
Alright so I've been outta the game for a long time noe,at least 4years now and im looking to score again. It's callin my name but I feel a little weary about copin on the streets again. I'm just wondering how much it's changed, ie cameras on street corners and popo . Do anyone know if westside is cracking down lately? I want to hit up my old spot from 03-04 but for all o know it'd been long gone . Anyone got advice for austin / central Area?
 
Speaking of the good old days on the southside, does anyone remember the Obama bags that were coming out of [...]? They were fentanyl and H, and each bag was stuffed full. One bag would make 3 serious junkies happy, and one bag/junkie would buckle your knees.

We used to divert our methadone wafers from the [...] early in the morning, and head south. We'd sell a few wafers and wait for the Obama to go on sale. We had this spot in a Sears parking lot we'd go to shoot up, and God, there was nothing better than a heavy shot of fentanyl when you were on the verge of being really sick!

My buddy couldn't hit himself, and since he always went into the projects to score (he was black), my job was to hit him first. I knew every vein on that fucker's body, and could pop him with my eyes closed. Sometimes he would pretend we'd gotten burned, and he loved to see the rage in my eyes before he'd nod off.

One time we got all fucked up and were headed west to get some rocks. Barack Obama was campaining for President at the time, and I called his national headquarters to tell them they were vulnerable to a drop in the quality of the Obama bags, and that I could broker a meeting between them and the Gangsta Disciples (that ran the Obama brand), to shore things up. They were definitely NOt impressed.

Anyway, the main guy who was pushing the Obama got killed by some punk, and after that the quality went all to shit. The Mike Jones and the 777 stepped up for a while, but they shut down all those projects and that was pretty much the end of that.

BTW, does anyone have any experience with [...], and made me stand on the corner for a half hour telling people NOT to go in there to buy dope, while they drank coffee in their car. Assholes...

Peace,

Gatherer


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NOw that i think about it that was a dumb ass question. yeah, now i feeel like a fuck face. anyways, ive been coppin some red tape and its just not up to my standards anymore. i wanna grab somethin better but im just not sure whats consistent and good. thats why i asked.

If you're getting the red tapes that come in a little baggie (no foils) with a strip of red tape on the top, then try headin a block up (south) and there's a spot on your left, they sell pretty consistant shit. The bags say 'Best' and have green tape along the side. That's where I cop my shit from and it's usually pretty good. Stay away from the blue superman bags which are on the right, about half a block down, they're complete crap.

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hey i just moved to chicago's south side from phili about two weeks ago. not sure where to score and though its pretty blunt question thought you guys would be as good as anyone to ask...not lookin for a hookup just very new to chicagos open air market and dont want to get ripped off. Im pretty desperate and any way you guys could help me info wise would be much appreciated.

I haven't been out south since the projects closed and we can't give out locations so the best I can do for you, if the moderators will allow it is tell you to check out a website that shows you where arrests have been made for dealing. Google the words spot crime and chicago and click on the first link. You'll have to sign up, but it's free and if you type 'drug' in the keyword box, it will show you where arrests have been made for drug abuse violations, aka dealing. Like someone else had said, look to the west side. Any busts show up as little ? icons. The more ? marks, the more busts that have been made in that area, which means the more spots there are around there, but also that it's hot (more cops makin arrests). If you click on them they give you the date and time the bust was made. Spots are usually clustered together in Chicago so it's really a matter of driving around, once you decide on an area which you can do using the map.

As far as not getting ripped off, here's a few tips for you and anyone else concerned about getting taken for;

1. Legit spots are usually on corners and have more than one guy hanging around, they have look outs and runners, etc. so don't approach some random guy by himself because chances are he's not slangin. Best case scenario, he tells you he don't deal or asks you what the fuck your problem is, worst case scenario, he sees you as an easy mark and rips you off so remember, spots have an operation to run and it's not run by just one dude.

2. If they don't yell 'rocks, blows' or say 'what you need' but you think it's a spot, make eye contact and tilt your head back as if to say what's up. If they're dealin they'll ask you what you need.

3. If you can make it, the best time to go, from my experience is between 3:00 p.m. and 3:30 p.m., cops change shifts at 3:30 so many of them are heading back to precinct or won't want to bother with you given the paperwork etc. associated with making the arrest.

4. Don't go after dark on your first trip, there are stray crack heads that will stand around known spots after they close and pretend to be dealing, they'll rip you off and be gone before you know it.

5. If you're unsure, avoid foils and get stamped baggies to where you can see the dope.

And Lastly;

6. Make sure you can see the dope, (baggies) before you hand off your money, don't ever give your money to someone who says I gotta go get it and don't let anyone in your ride who says they'll take you to a spot. Better safe than sorry, especially if you're new to the scene or area.

Side note: I don't know how those flashing blue cameras work and I know there's been some debate about it but it's definately better not to cop within view of one, just in case.

Someone had mention something about it being dangerous to be white and in the hood, in that regard remember the dealers aren't the danger to you (beating up white people for the hell of it isn't good for business and bottom line that's what these guys are doin is runnin a business). The only danger to you is the cops!

I hope that helps some of you guys that had questions/conerns.
 
Reggie's is the shit dude, I used to go hang out at record breaker's as a kid all the time back when it was in hoffman estates and back when record stores were still around. But they def have quality bands play there, kinda like back when the fireside bowl on fullerton still had shows, only not so much all-ages. I'm not gonna say exactly where but I remember going to reggie's one time to see a band play and some (non heroin using) friends were with me and telling me that a certain fast food joint nearby was selling dope and out of nowhere some cops came to investigate out of nowhere cause apparently they were selling out the fucking "establishment".

But the fireside bowl is ironic cause I used to see a lot of great bands play there... some of who have later gone on to be pretty famous and get played on MTV and sell out arenas and shit. I even saw a bunch of straight edge hardcore bands play there. Ironic that years later I had a phone connect who'd meet me in the vicinity and it was always comforting passing the fireside since I used to go there all the time when I was 15 and I'm nearly positive no cops would fuck with me there. The place felt like home.

But goddamnit I'm out of town right now and won't be back for another couple weeks or so and I'm starting to get bored and antsy.

I'm not withdrawling at all but I'm having trouble sleeping, might as well take a piece of suboxone even though I hate the shit.

Oh yeah and definitely stay the fuck out of oak park, it might look like a real nice quiet neighborhood but I'm still trying to get my car back from those assholes.
 
I can remember taking suboxone to get to bed even after the acute wds were over.


Suboxone is an awesome drug, IMO.
 
ahh fireside..i saw my friends mayfield play with fall out boy there for i think $5 back when they played decent music not that dance dance mtv bullshit...and i remember walkin to the door and 2 black kids where like "yo we got dro" i was like well shit lets see what u got and there where sellin sawbucks of some fire dro..fat saks like .8s for a sawbuck i was like shit give me 3 of them lol we nt back to the car smoked a blunt and watched the show..this was maybe 2001 i think? i dont even remember i was in high school though
 
Hey everyone im a long time blue light visitor, but this is my first post with this account. I know what im about to ask might sound really dumb but please bear with me! I am actually from rural Illinois about 2 hours south of Chicago. I have been doing dope for about a year now, long history of opiate use though. Ive got my heroin through the same dude the whole time, a friend of mine, who got it from peoria. Me and this dude shot up every day together for a long time. Long story short he got arrested last week and is in deep shit. For the last week ive been desperately trying to find someone who can get dope but ive been stuck with lots of pricey oxy. I've decided to travel to Chicago and hit the open air market, but to be honest i dont entirely know what im doing. Ive been along for the ride once to do this before, but never done it myself. My questions are this... is it like most cities where the runners will come straight to your car? Does it always come in single [edit] bags here? I have trouble communicating with dealers because I'm nearly def. Any helpful knowledge you bluelighters could give me on this subject would be GREATLY appreciated. I know i will get alot of negative responses to this and reading it over i feel like kind of stupid but please understand by unique predicament.
 
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I actually sorta made friends with the dude who played guitar and sang in mayfield when I was going to columbia college and I had a couple classes with the dude. He was majoring in music and composing pop music for disney or some shit. He was an alright guy. His name was Brian I think from the southern suburbs.

I was friends with the dudes from the academy, now known as the academy is back when I was in high school I saw fall out boy a couple times, fuck I was even at the video shoot for dead on arrival at the knights of columbus hall in arlington heights.

But going back on topic... the off-white raw definitely is the best shit out there by far, that has been the only shit that I actually FELT travelling through my veins, all the way through my chest and BAM into my brain.
 
Yea brian was a year older then me, had a cute sister in my grade though..they where the local band that was supposed to go big but I dunno just too soft I guess...
 
Ugh. Just moved to the suburbs of Tulsa, OK. No job, no car, and no phone. Luckily, no wds. But starting in a whole new scene is going to suck, especially when I used to have such easy access to the goods up near Chicago. I will miss the blows :(
 
Hey everyone im a long time blue light visitor, but this is my first post with this account. I know what im about to ask might sound really dumb but please bear with me! I am actually from rural Illinois about 2 hours south of Chicago. I have been doing dope for about a year now, long history of opiate use though. Ive got my heroin through the same dude the whole time, a friend of mine, who got it from peoria. Me and this dude shot up every day together for a long time. Long story short he got arrested last week and is in deep shit. For the last week ive been desperately trying to find someone who can get dope but ive been stuck with lots of pricey oxy. I've decided to travel to Chicago and hit the open air market, but to be honest i dont entirely know what im doing. Ive been along for the ride once to do this before, but never done it myself. My questions are this... is it like most cities where the runners will come straight to your car? Does it always come in single 10 dollar bags here? I have trouble communicating with dealers because I'm nearly def. Any helpful knowledge you bluelighters could give me on this subject would be GREATLY appreciated. I know i will get alot of negative responses to this and reading it over i feel like kind of stupid but please understand by unique predicament.

I hear ya. Try reading my post which is a few up from yours it's kind of a how to with some tips, that might help and all you have to tell the runners is how many you want and what, like 4 blows, so you can probably get around, the only thing you may have trouble with is where they tell you to park, if you can't hear that. Maybe you can bring someone with you? I know that's kinda hard cause I keep my using on DL so I'm guessing you do too. And yeah they're almost always dimes. Hope that helps.
 
i noticed once i lost my job my use increased, when i was workin i still would get high but its easy to keep your mind off getting high b/c well you have something to do..then when i got arrested like 3 months back my use picked up a little more cause well i guess depression but facing a drug felony and shellin out about 10k cash and a car taken away i really didnt want to do anyhting but stay home, ya know? i dont want to risk getting in trouble..

does anybody else attribute their use with for lack of a better term "boredom"? im only saying this cause i had some minor w/d's (chills)and planned on takin til friday off like usually do..but i came home today from chiillin at a friends house and no one was home, so i was like fuck it ill cop something today to get high, no ones home and the bulls and hawks are on, should be a peaceful night and it has been so far but im kinda pissed i went a copped just b/c i have noithing else to do


i really need to find a job or something cause i need reason to get out the house and not just get high 4times a week cause im bored at home
 
i noticed once i lost my job my use increased, when i was workin i still would get high but its easy to keep your mind off getting high b/c well you have something to do..then when i got arrested like 3 months back my use picked up a little more cause well i guess depression but facing a drug felony and shellin out about 10k cash and a car taken away i really didnt want to do anyhting but stay home, ya know? i dont want to risk getting in trouble..

does anybody else attribute their use with for lack of a better term "boredom"? im only saying this cause i had some minor w/d's (chills)and planned on takin til friday off like usually do..but i came home today from chiillin at a friends house and no one was home, so i was like fuck it ill cop something today to get high, no ones home and the bulls and hawks are on, should be a peaceful night and it has been so far but im kinda pissed i went a copped just b/c i have noithing else to do


i really need to find a job or something cause i need reason to get out the house and not just get high 4times a week cause im bored at home

i dont now you fam, but you are telling the same story me and half these daily users are saying.
if youre getting w'd you're beyond a chipper bro.
you have a decision to make, if you want to continue to chip take TWO weeks off
if you cant you arent a chipper
if youre on 4 days, that means a night or two after u use you prolly cant sleep and your legs have electricity going through them causing you to walk around all night
unless you have mad benzos
but still, youre at that fatal crossroad.
no one could have talked me out of it, but it will turn to 70-100 a day very quickly and that gets ugly.
be careful bro
you seem like a good kid, weve just all been there
 
i noticed once i lost my job my use increased, when i was workin i still would get high but its easy to keep your mind off getting high b/c well you have something to do..then when i got arrested like 3 months back my use picked up a little more cause well i guess depression but facing a drug felony and shellin out about 10k cash and a car taken away i really didnt want to do anyhting but stay home, ya know? i dont want to risk getting in trouble..

does anybody else attribute their use with for lack of a better term "boredom"? im only saying this cause i had some minor w/d's (chills)and planned on takin til friday off like usually do..but i came home today from chiillin at a friends house and no one was home, so i was like fuck it ill cop something today to get high, no ones home and the bulls and hawks are on, should be a peaceful night and it has been so far but im kinda pissed i went a copped just b/c i have noithing else to do


i really need to find a job or something cause i need reason to get out the house and not just get high 4times a week cause im bored at home

boredom is definitely my biggest trigger. if im out doing shit with friends, im straight, but its when im home alone and stuck in my own head is when i start to crave and wanna go down. all it takes is one or two thoughts and they become actions. thats addiction for ya.
 
^im same way, like i said since i got arrested i stopped goin out and thus stuck doing nothing at home instead of doing nothing with some friends


logan im no a selfproclaimed chipper thats just what everyone has called my in this thread and the chi heroin 1 thread...since i was in highschool i used opiates maybe 3 times a month basically whenever we could get some then i used them 1x maybe 2x/week in college then i hit 21..

and thats when i stopped doing most drugs including drinkin cause a near dui(.06) except weed and opi's...when i stopped partying thats also when i started making good money...as i made more money i could afford to do pills more but then got hooked on xanny(2bars/day or no sleep)and slowed my opi habitto oncfe a week....about a year and half ago i tapered off the benzos for the most part but my opi habit creeped backup to arpund 2times a week til i lost my job almost a year ago ..keep in mind though my tolerance went up for 3norcs to 6norcs and30mg of OC to 120mg during this whole time (2002?-2009)

i didnt do dope til i lost my job cause well my pill habit got expensive so i tried dope and liked it for the price and the fact you could sniff it(sniffing itself is an addiction IMO)..b/c honestly the price being cheap, now dope is 3 times a week when i got arrested it started creeping sometimes a 4th day but my tolerance has gone from 2 1/2bags to 4bags over the coarse if the year that ive been doing it


so dunno if im a chipper...... b/c i never really took 2 weeks off , so maybe i am, maybe im not, it doesnt matter really..i was just thinking about it on the car ride home from copping and realized its been brought on by depression and boredom really and that i really need to find a job


sorry for the rant i have no clue why i told you my life story lol
 
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