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"CHEMICAL X" thread - mental masturbation for drug SAR geeks

In response to the question of what description the "idiotic dealer" provides I have quoted below and also that they say the chemical is UG6981 (which someone else led me to believe was 3-[(E)-1-(Benzyloxyimino)ethyl]-2-oxo-2H-chromen-7-yl acetate - hence my orignal post).

"This is undoutibly the strongest product we have had. The compound is an entactogen amphetamine with a Triple reuptake inhibitor that acts as a non -neurotoxic highly selective serotonin agent with 10% DRA"

Since there is no information that I could find on the web I thought posting here would be a good option. I have enjoyed reading posts on Bluelight for a number of years and took this oportunity to register and post. With the marketing that is being thown behind this new product online a lot of less experienced people I know are buying it and I hoped to gather some more imformation to educate.

I am deliberately not mentioning the brand that it is being sold as.. I wanted some helpful discussion based on the compound as I have no idea what UG6981 is but Wiki does list it as a Entactogen but nothing more detailed.
 
The structure doesnt seem to match what the vendor said, unless someone shed me light on any binding assay study...
 
I think there's some dude in china with a poster on his wall of all the aromatics and heterocycles, and he goes down the list making goofy amphetamine-esque analogs from all of them.
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This is true to me, except that I am not synthesizing psychoactives in my reseach.
The bioisosteres are fun, but should not merge with these **** RC scenes.
 
Quote from another forum:

i thought i would go and test it (UG6981 )
bought 500Mg and done a extended EZ test on it here's the results....

Marquis Dark purple to Black
Mecka Dark purple to black
Mandelin Dark purple to black
Robadope's Dark blue
Simon's no reaction

I know these tests are a rough guide but this chemical looks very interesting indeed
I did not think they would turn out like that
I thought worth comparing to a sample of MDXX


UG6981 is obviously not 3-[(E)-1-(Benzyloxyimino)ethyl]-2-oxo-2H-chromen-7-yl acetate so I am still none the wiser..
 
I'm almost certain the product you are talking about contains MMAI, which would probably correspond with the effects felt as well as the EZ Test kit. I don't understand all this hiding the name of a products ingredients. It is dangerous, and they would certainly sell more if they were just honest about what it was.
 
A quick search for UG turns up a listing as 3-(2H-chromen-7-yl)butan-2-amine which we also have a thread about.
 
I just got a look at the vendor site which is peddling this stuff. If there is ever another WebTryp, I sincerely hope these guys wind up spending a few decades grabbing their ankles for Bubba (or whatever the Chav equivalent of "Bubba" is). Shit like this is the reason responsible psychonauts can't have access to good chemicals.
 
Roger&Me said:
That's how organic chemistry works, using known reactions you can make whatever molecule you want -- its like solving a puzzle, you just have to be clever (and you don't exactly have to be EJ Corey to synth the molecule in question).
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It is indeed very kind of you to explain me the wonders of organic chemistry, seriously. But my comment pointed rather to the observation that the semilegal drug market isn't coming up with something truely novel at all. They are solely copying the published research of academic and industrial working groups. Because the compound in question isn't known in the peer-review-literature I have a hard time imagining that these dumbasses are capable of producing a genuine batch of this material.

C'mon! It's so damn obvious: They simply took 6-APB (...because it's currently quite some fancy stuff, I guess), expanded the furane-ring with one carbon and added another random carbon at the alkyl sidechain. Oooooh wow... A similarly intellectual task is to add dioxolane-rings to every molecule you find :\
The really clever task is to devise novel and pharmaceutically active compounds, which can actually be synthesized. This nonsense above is what I use to call paper-chemistry. Somebody else here in the forums once called it mental masturbation, which hits the nail right on the head.
 
lol i wasn't trying to be a patronizing dick hyperthesis, i misunderstood what you were saying/asking. i need rest. :|
 
So it's definitely not 6-APB?

Wouldn't someone have noticed if all these pellets were aMT?
 
Could be 5 or 6-APB, it's the right molecular weight. And 131 could correspond to the methylbenzofuran radical.
 
Oh fuck. I think I've screwed up here.

I'll have to disagree with my previous post. Forget what I said. This could very well be 5- or 6-APB. The molecular weight is right, all the ions match and the fragmentation pattern is consistent with a benzofuran. I haven't got a reference spectrum for 5- or 6-APB, but I've got one for 6-APDB and it's a pretty close match if you correct for the two additional hydrogens of 6-APDB.

I would have expected 5/6-APB to have a fairly prominent m/z 117 (benzofuranyl radical), but maybe it's not as stable as the corresponding dihydrobenzofuranyl (m/z 119). Aside from that, nothing is missing and everything adds up. Actually, I'm almost certain now that this is 5- or 6-APB. It could be either one, you couldn't possibly distinguish between them by GC-MS unless you had the reference material.

Sorry about the confusion. :|
 
This is a thread I've made for the sole purpose of merging all the "Hey, I found xxx chemical that a vend0r is selling!!!!! how active is it" into one thread because you people won't stop asking.

Also acceptable are MS identifications and stuff of the like. Of course, no vendors etc. The standard disclaimers apply.
 
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