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She's a blonde in good need of a serious hump!!!

Still trolling. Ann Coulter is a right-wing airport discount non-fiction writer not particularly talented, but as she has assumed the shape of a woman, she has a shtick among that audience. And that^ is it. Unfortunately, the manufacturers failed to provide the right openings in her latex covering.
 
Post 422, the one I was directly responding to and quoted, ". . . ut are you saying violence against a group who are exercising their freedom of speech is justified and therefore excusable??" [sic].

This was in the "antifa" context. Twisting this into a free speech issue, when it's a murder case, is trolling

You're making no sense, buddy.

If this were a court case you would lose hands down
 
Thats not actually what the letter of the law says.

And just so we're all clear, I am NOT FOR ONE DAMN MINUTE defending these Neo-Nazi pieces of shits!!!!!!!!


US First Amendment means nazis can't be arrested just for saying stupid shit. Nazis must be allowed to go through the same application process to have an assembly. It absolutely can be denied if a city thinks it'll be too dangerous, or they don't have the resources. If you stand on a soapbox and yell stupid shit, you can be arrested for all sorts of other reasons.

And you keeping this shit going sure doesn't help that "i'm not defending them!" line. "I'm not defending, except for how its free speech , and they were attacked unfairly, and YOU are the violent ones, why do you defend muslim terrorists?"
 
i'm curious why the people defending the nazis always seem to deny that they're defending the nazis.

why is that?
 
And you keeping this shit going sure doesn't help that "i'm not defending them!" line. "I'm not defending, except for how its free speech , and they were attacked unfairly, and YOU are the violent ones, why do you defend muslim terrorists?"
No, I will defend those who spew hateful speech to the end!
Not because I like them, but because I like freedom of speech MUCH better than them!!
 
Do you support the freedom of expression involved plowing your vehicle into people?

Do you support violence against non-Christian whites?

Do you support violence as a means to political power?
 
THen why do you keep indirectly defending them?

This is a case about violent nazis. Not an imagined terror cell of BLM crossed with the ANimal liberation group. Bringing that up distracts from the NAZIs. It is WEIRD that you continue to do so.

A real discussion could be made about the degree of responsibility of the Trump campaign. And I think it answers a big chunk of the discussion that his supporters feel the need to steer the conversation away from nazis.
 
i don't follow the minutiae of american politics.
You can say that again, you're a self-proclaimed "militant anti-fascist."

"Free speech" is a concept so abused by right wing libertarians, that i'm not interested in it at all.
Yeah, fuck free speech! Right-wingers and libertarians are automatically disseminating hate speech - because I said so.

How about the free press?
Do you support trump's constant attacks on this vital institution of democracy?
The mainstream media is no longer the free press. Currently the true free press are the online commentators that do not have to compromise their integrity and lie to appease corporate overlords. And ironically the free press are facing censorship under the guise of advertisers pulling funding. Their ideas are dangerous but not for the reasons that you believe, the truth is threatening to dangerous emotional ideologies. So yes, the mainstream media have the right to exercise their "free speech", but as we all agree free speech is not without consequence. If you're going to continuously broadcast lies then expect to get called out on them, and that is the tolerant, non-violent approach that you all should adopt.

Opposition to fascists is a moral obligation. All the way to the end, as was shown sixty years ago.
Do you think Trump is going to kill all the Jews or something? What is this nonsense.

Still trolling. Ann Coulter is a right-wing airport discount non-fiction writer not particularly talented, but as she has assumed the shape of a woman, she has a shtick among that audience. And that^ is it. Unfortunately, the manufacturers failed to provide the right openings in her latex covering.
Even if your intolerant hate-speech is correct, does she still deserve a place on a US college campus to exercise free speech? People here are more than willing to throw out the (much too) general accusation of Nazi to prove themselves right. But when it comes to digging into these claims y'all run. Antifa claim responsibility with violently shutting down her speech at Berkeley. Just so we can be clear, does Coulter fall into the "Nazi" group that you like to speak of?
 
fresco said:
I am defending their right to spew their vile hatred of speech

why though?
what sort of person wants to welcome that into society?

why fight the battles of these entitled, hateful, cowardly scumbags? it makes absolutely no sense - if you don't agree with them.

i like that the douches from the nazi rally are being identified and then losing their jobs. i hope they all end up in the gutter where they belong.

why anyone would argue on behalf of these fucking terrorists is beyond me - unless you agree with them (which some of our commenters here clearly do, though none seem brave enough to admit to it).


is it "too deep for you" to understand why "freedom of speech" has nothing to do with this discussion? like, absolutely zero?
 
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why though?
Because freedom of speech should supercede whatever feelings or insults other people might be subjected by

I like that the douches from the nazi rally are being identified and then losing their jobs. i hope they all end up in the gutter where they belong
Great. So do I.

Thats actually the best way. Identify them, and publicly shame them.
Now think about it, if you were not allow them to march, then how would you be able to locate them all??

Think about that real hard

is it "too deep for you" to understand why "freedom of speech" has nothing to do with this discussion? like, absolutely zero?
It has everything to do with this discussion
 
by supporting nazis, you are supporting people who are actively attempting to stifle - and outlaw - free speech.

backing nazis is extremely counter productive if you honestly do care about free speech.

but it's a total red herring. nazis pretend to be oppressed when they are prevented from oppressing others.

this whole point seems completely lost on you, which is why it's ironic that you think arguing against fascist mobs is arguing against free speech - when it is the exact opposite. i would argue that counter protesters are the the people fighting for free speech.
have you read or heard the sort of violent rhetoric these nazis come out with?
they're not making pie-in-the-sky speeches, they're threatening violence and genocide, and praising fascist groups like Golden Dawn who regularly murder opponents and people of colour in Greece.

fresco said:
Thats actually the best way. Identify them, and publicly shame them.
Now think about it, if you were not allow them to march, then how would you be able to locate them all??

see, some people say doxxing is highly unethical, because you may bring suffering to the lives of people who have no connection to nazi politics (such as nazis' families, children etc - or cases of mistaken identity).

if you really think these people should be "named and shamed", why support their campaign of public intimidation and vilification in the first place?

but to answer your question, plenty of fascists and alt-right turds have been doxxed in the last 12 months - long before they had any sort of street presence, so allowing them to form lynch mobs is not a requirement of outing them.
 
Fresco, so are WE.

The reason you're a troll, is because you're taking a case about a murder and spamming BS about "free speech". Mainly, by inserting that we somehow are attacking THEM.

You try to change the narrative from an attack by the Klan/fascists/nazis that killed and injured to one where somehow we're intolerant of free speech? It's such a stretch you have to be trolling.

Liquid's too far gone to even categorize.

Do you think Trump is going to kill all the Jews or something? What is this nonsense.

No, but his followers will if we aren't vigilant against the kind of alt-right conniving going on, that seems to fooling you too, Liquid.
 
Liberals, as per usual, cannot be debated with. They get their petty little feet stepped upon and want everyone who doesnt agree with their opinions be labeled as "trolls" and possibly be banned 8)
 
Liquid's too far gone to even categorize.
lol you are the definition of a libtard. Every second word out of your mouth is Nazi yet you do not even understand fascism. When I try to point out your faulty logic you call me a white supremacist and ignore my questions.

No, but his followers will if we aren't vigilant against the kind of alt-right conniving going on, that seems to fooling you too, Liquid.
Yeah... the most imminent threat we currently face is Trump supporters rounding up the Jews....
 
"Every second word out of your mouth is Nazi yet you do not even understand fascism"

It's a thread about how nazis killed someone here in my own country, and a Pres. who supports them.

And if you could step back from your jr. editor duties, you'd see SOTT is part of the problem for folks misunderstanding fascism.

Do I really need to explain to you two why fascism is bad?
 
ROFLMAO........he actually believes that!! =D

do you think your "i'm not defending nazis, just their freedom of speech" schtick is fooling anyone?

these 2017 MAGA nazis focus their most vitriolic hate on muslims.


are you honestly trying to mock someone for suggesting nazis are a threat to ethnic minorities?
 
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