Carpal-tunnel syndrome from peptides?

Lopez

Lopez

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so i've done a few peptide "cycles" before, only MGF, ghrp-2, and cjc 1295.

anyway, i've dropped my pct clomid dose to only 25 mg and have nolva handy just in case of sore nips (i've always had mild gyno since puberty). so anyways i just dosed cjc w/o dac and ghrp-2 yesterday just in case i start losing some muscle from lowering my clomid (i've heard igf is best for this though— keeping gains that is).

problem is that last night i had a worsening of my carpal tunnel (which i've had since my second ghrp cycle— this is my third). i wake up in the middle of the night with my hands feeling numb and ON FIRE...

i take it this is permanent since i've had it for a while, so should i stop dosing any gh peptides?

otherwise i can ignore the pain but i'm afraid i'll have problems with muscle dystrophy in my hands or something...
 
Why did you lower you clomid dose? You keep the dose at the level in my Starter cycle thread until the end of your PCT. We are talking steroids, not opiates or benzos. Tapering doesn't apply here. Why aren't you running the Nolva especially if you had gyno as a young lad? If your nips get sore it's too late for Nolva to do shit. When you run PCT you run Clomid and Nolva. Do it right or don't do it all.

And save the peptides for when you have steroids in your system and get over the fear of losing muscle. Most of the mass you lose will be a result of intracellular water being pissed out and your muscles not being engorged with blood or glycogen.
 
-Guido- said:
Why did you lower you clomid dose? You keep the dose at the level in my Starter cycle thread until the end of your PCT. We are talking steroids, not opiates or benzos. Tapering doesn't apply here. Why aren't you running the Nolva especially if you had gyno as a young lad? If your nips get sore it's too late for Nolva to do shit. When you run PCT you run Clomid and Nolva. Do it right or don't do it all.

And save the peptides for when you have steroids in your system and get over the fear of losing muscle. Most of the mass you lose will be a result of intracellular water being pissed out and your muscles not being engorged with blood or glycogen.
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yeah i have a total ocd fear of losing mass :/

so much so i think i'm sticking to lighter cycles. i thought there would be an estrogen rebound if i just dropped the dose at the end of pct??
 
so far i haven't lost any strength, just 2 pounds of what i guess was water, as you said.
 
Lopez said:
yeah i have a total ocd fear of losing mass :/
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Look into an AI (aromasin) it may be from water retention. Also B6 can reduce the symptoms. Dose the peptide 50mcg of each GHRP2/MOD GRF (1-29) 2x/day until carpal tunnel is gone. Then go back to your regular dosing schedule.

No permanent damage will occur.
 
blackmamba411 said:
Look into an AI (aromasin) it may be from water retention. Also B6 can reduce the symptoms. Dose the peptide 50mcg of each GHRP2/MOD GRF (1-29) 2x/day until carpal tunnel is gone. Then go back to your regular dosing schedule.

No permanent damage will occur.
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will do, thank you bro :)
 
blackmamba411 said:
No permanent damage will occur.
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That's a bold statement. Over time all of those nerves will be compressed and they will eventually deteriorate along with the surrounding muscle tissue. That's only in the long term though.

This is dose related and usually temporary.

Also, you wouldn't be having this OCD fear of muscle loss if you were eating 4000 calories a day and drinking 2 gallons of water.
 
Voxide said:
That's a bold statement. Over time all of those nerves will be compressed and they will eventually deteriorate along with the surrounding muscle tissue. That's only in the long term though.

This is dose related and usually temporary.

Also, you wouldn't be having this OCD fear of muscle loss if you were eating 4000 calories a day and drinking 2 gallons of water.
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i meant, it's LITERALLY ocd... not kidding. i'm a workout-holic partially due to my obsessive compulsive personality disorder... everything needs to be perfect...

i do drink a lot of water, about 1 gallon though. and i only eat 2000-2500 calories a day because any more and i gain too much fat (i have a slow metabolism).
 
and the gyno i had was because a stupid p-doc gave me risperidone when i was 13 for my OCD...
 
blackmamba411 said:
Look into an AI (aromasin) it may be from water retention. Also B6 can reduce the symptoms. Dose the peptide 50mcg of each GHRP2/MOD GRF (1-29) 2x/day until carpal tunnel is gone. Then go back to your regular dosing schedule.

No permanent damage will occur.
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An AI isn't going to help with water retention from peptides. If anything, an AI will make his joints worse.
 
Lopez said:
And i only eat 2000-2500 calories a day because any more and i gain too much fat (i have a slow metabolism).
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If you were to eat 5000 calories and made sure they came from protien and fats and from very little carbohydrates, you wouldn't have to worry about fat cells being created or enlarging.

I'm not being a dick but a slow metabolism is just an excuse for people who don't know better. Metabolism can be altered though diet and and training. The human body is a machine that can be fine tuned to work a certain way.
 
Lopez said:
i meant, it's LITERALLY ocd... not kidding. i'm a workout-holic partially due to my obsessive compulsive personality disorder... everything needs to be perfect...

i do drink a lot of water, about 1 gallon though. and i only eat 2000-2500 calories a day because any more and i gain too much fat (i have a slow metabolism).
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I don't think I even eat such a small amount on a cut. Fat gain is necessary for anyone looking to gain any significant amount of muscle.
Lopez said:
and the gyno i had was because a stupid p-doc gave me risperidone when i was 13 for my OCD...
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Lol. Not your fault buddy. Majority of doctors are fucking idiots and are just drug dealer scumbags in lab coats. What's even funnier is that cop-outs such as OCD and ADD are actually considered legitimate disorders today.
 
-Guido- said:
An AI isn't going to help with water retention from peptides. If anything, an AI will make his joints worse.
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Neuropathy from peptides/hgh is super common. I have been having pain going to my elbow from ghrp/grf in the past and controlling my estrogen level more adequately did improve my condition.
 
But how can an aromitase inhibitor, which prevents estrogen from being converted to Testosterone, which is compound only used in situations like that, be of any use when GHRP/GRF don't aromitize? I could see an AI improving condition if for instance, one was using Testosterone or another steroid that aromitized on cycle. Considering he has said this carpel tunnel has been going on for a while I doubt it's even from the peptides. The dosage of peptides he would have to take over an extended and continuous period of time would have to be a lot in order to equate to the HGH dosage bodybuilders use that carry with them those side effects, and even then we are talking 4iu's-5iu's of HGH injected daily. If peptides were able to cause such a release when used daily, bodybuilders wouldn't even bother with HGH kits.
 
-Guido- said:
But how can an aromitase inhibitor, which prevents estrogen from being converted to Testosterone, which is compound only used in situations like that, be of any use when GHRP/GRF don't aromitize? I could see an AI improving condition if for instance, one was using Testosterone or another steroid that aromitized on cycle. Considering he has said this carpel tunnel has been going on for a while I doubt it's even from the peptides. The dosage of peptides he would have to take over an extended and continuous period of time would have to be a lot in order to equate to the HGH dosage bodybuilders use that carry with them those side effects, and even then we are talking 4iu's-5iu's of HGH injected daily. If peptides were able to cause such a release when used daily, bodybuilders wouldn't even bother with HGH kits.
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I never said peptides aromatized. He just stopped clomid, so i figured he was finishing a pct. How do you know he does not have high estrogen from this cycle since he never mentioned usage of AI. Just a serm.

Peptides when used properly can cause pretty intense carpal tunnel for some people.
 
Voxide said:
I don't think I even eat such a small amount on a cut. Fat gain is necessary for anyone looking to gain any significant amount of muscle.

Lol. Not your fault buddy. Majority of doctors are fucking idiots and are just drug dealer scumbags in lab coats. What's even funnier is that cop-outs such as OCD and ADD are actually considered legitimate disorders today.
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well i actually just scheduled an appointment for a removal of my gyno... it's going to run me anywhere from 2-2.5 grand :(

well it's not like i spend much on anything else, really.. i still wish insurance could've covered it when i was 15 (i become so conscious of it...)

and well, i gain fat so easily it's unreal, which is why i started running the GW, i've heard it shouldn't have a rebound effect so i suppose i'm good to go...
 
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