Misc Carisoprodol (Soma) ....thoughts & experiences ?

[placebonaut]

been taking a lot of soma over the past year and thought it was worth writing about my experience - keen to hear peoples thoughts and comments about it.

1st thing - it took me a long time to understand it, I didn't do my research correctly when I started taking it and didn't understand how it's converted into Meprobamate
2nd thing - Carisprodol causes the nod which can be defeated with a cuppa tea
3rd thing - weed and a glass of wine is it's friend
4th thing - the Meprobamate is the fun part
5th thing - it's innocuous, I started taking it as a muscle relaxer, that's not what it really is
6th thing - taking 1000mg 3-4 times a week is very easy, tolerance builds very quickly but also seems to reset very quickly (at least in me)
7th thing - Taurine potentiates Meprobamate for me - and it's even better
8th thing - I love it with Diazepam as well but that has all sorts of danger written all over it - I'm actively thinking how much I'd like that far more than I should
9th thing - I get anxiety rebound when I stop taking it....need to taper it but not sure how much by or how long for - advice greatly received
last thing - I'm trying to cut back and take it once a month max, right now I'm down to 2-3 times a week...crap

EDIT: bonus thing, don't swallow soma, subliminal is by far the best ROA, 2 under the tongue, let them slowly melt, hits harder and faster, but will make you nod, chase down with tea, mmmmm.

 

[ChemicallyEnhanced]

Took 0NE once and had a paradoxical reaction where I had such extreme rage that my parents had to call paramedics to come sedate me and they had to inject me with 5mg Haldol and 5mg Lorazepam...and then another 5mg Lorazepam

 

[placebonaut]

Took 0NE once and had a paradoxical reaction where I had such extreme rage that my parents had to call paramedics to come sedate me and they had to inject me with 5mg Haldol and 5mg Lorazepam...and then another 5mg Lorazepam

that's pretty much the opposite of any trip report I've ever read, you're allergic or something, clash with other meds?? sounds scary as fuck

 

[ChemicallyEnhanced]

that's pretty much the opposite of any trip report I've ever read, you're allergic or something, clash with other meds?? sounds scary as fuck

Yeah, that's why I say "paradoxical" reaction as it's the opposite of the usual effects. Didn't clash with anything, I think the only other thing I'd taken was oxy and Soma generally goes very well with opioids.
Yeah, it was scary 'cause it was extremely out of character, too. Like, I'm generally a super-chill guy; it takes a lot to make me angry and with the Soma I couldn't stop screaming and ripped apart a chair and a table with my bare hands [and I'm TINY, like 5'5 and 104lbs].
It wasn't allergy; I didn't have any of that type of reaction, like no swelling, redness, itching, hives, wheezing etc.

Meds sometimes affect me weirdly. Ritalin makes me sleepy and opioids give me diarrhea.

 

[red22]

Selection from "Modern Barbiturate Abuse". ASB. 2018-05-08. Erowid Experience Vaults. exp111872:

At 19 years old, I was so obsessed with sedative / anxiolytic RX drugs that I slept with a PDR next to my bed. I discovered that Soma (Carispodal) turned into meprobamate when it hit the liver. I had used Soma plenty of times over the years, and liked it, but found it to be an unreliable high. I wanted pure meprobamate, and found a doctor willing to prescribe it. She scripted me #30 400mg Equanil, a brand name for pure meprobamate. Once I felt the effects of meprobamate, I was off and running. I had found the drug that I always wanted, the feeling I always craved – numbness, and a complete lack of care, to the point that someone could be shot in front of me and I wouldn’t blink an eye.

EQUANIL (Meprobamate 400mg)
DOSE: 1200mg to 4600mg
EFFECTS: This is a very, very different drug than Soma (Carispodal) – much stronger, longer acting, and intense. Meprobamate is extremely pleasant, deadly, and as addictive as a ‘pure’ barbiturate. It starts to take effect about 30 mins after oral ingestion and is best taken on an empty stomach, though naïve users often get nauseous due to the dizziness.

The first effects are felt in the body – a tingling and numbness overcomes the body, and a jello-like feeling takes hold in my legs, making it hard to walk in a straight line. Numbness in the face is usually present, and is pleasant feeling. Dizziness is also present, and increases with the dose. A very ‘floaty’ feeling is felt, and laying down and doing nothing becomes ‘fun’.

Psychologically, meprobamate is similar to a ‘pure’ barbiturate. Euphoria starts to take hold as soon as the body high is felt. A feeling of calmness and carefreeness is felt, and increases with the dose. Loss of inhibition is felt. It is a very ‘social’ feeling drug – talkativeness is common, I personally always wanted to be around people when on this drug. It is more ‘social’ than barbiturates are, and has less loss of inhibition. Higher doses (1200mg and above) do produce a blackout, similar to that of alcohol or benzodiazepines, but more intense. Drinking on this drug makes it so that I am basically couch bound, and it can induce nausea and dizziness. Effects last for about 2 hours, and re-dosing is effective but less intense.

TOLERANCE / WITHDRAWAL: Tolerance gains rapidly, just as quickly as a barbiturate. Due to the fact that I was abusing the drug, I began to need higher doses in about a week. I personally ended up maxing out at around 4k to 4.6k mgs, and at that dose I was blacking out every time. This was my first withdrawal from a sedative other than a benzodiazepine, and it is much different than the latter. Meprobamate has a somewhat long half life, but withdrawal effects are felt sooner than the half life suggests. Symptoms include delirium, shaking, full on panic attacks that last all day, and strong derealization / depersonalization. I had to be medically withdrawn from Meprobamate, and even with the detox medications (which were at a higher doses than normal), negative effects could still be felt.

OVERALL: Meprobamate is basically a barbiturate, and has the same side effects and dangers as the barbiturate class of drugs. The high is somewhat more euphoric than Phenobarbital, but less pleasurable than other barbiturates. I would say the abuse potential is extremely high. Europe took all meprobamate substances off the market in 2012.

 

[placebonaut]

TOLERANCE / WITHDRAWAL: Tolerance gains rapidly, just as quickly as a barbiturate. Due to the fact that I was abusing the drug, I began to need higher doses in about a week. I personally ended up maxing out at around 4k to 4.6k mgs, and at that dose I was blacking out every time.

my golden rule is never take Soma on consecutive days, I admit to taking it more often than I should do, but still don't notice the soma tolerance build, however I've not been as aware of Meprobamate upside and feeling until much later in my usage so not yet sure how quickly that builds in me and how fast tolerance resets.

now I better understand it I've starting 500mg redose once the Carisprodol has worn off as a way to boost the Meprobamate effects which when coupled with 1000mg of Taurine and cannabis is pure bliss

OVERALL: Meprobamate is basically a barbiturate, and has the same side effects and dangers as the barbiturate class of drugs. The high is somewhat more euphoric than Phenobarbital, but less pleasurable than other barbiturates. I would say the abuse potential is extremely high. Europe took all meprobamate substances off the market in 2012.

pretty spot on! I'm loving the barb effect

 

[vision conquest]

I got this...scared the crap out of me.
I had 500mg tabs...one was good so I thought three would be better...I started to shake like mad could barly walk and even had trouble talking.

Do not take to much...for me 500mg was nice but more was not.

 

[placebonaut]

I got this...scared the crap out of me.
I had 500mg tabs...one was good so I thought three would be better...I started to shake like mad could barly walk and even had trouble talking.

Do not take to much...for me 500mg was nice but more was not.

the soma shuffle

yeah important to titrate up, 1500mg in 1 go is a lot! 1000mg is quite a bit, would think for most 2x 350mg would be decent enough

 

[PenguinWithNapalm]

I personally find it quite euphoric. Way more so than benzos. I think the American ones even rival opiates but that’s just me

 

[red22]

"Salvador Dali paid artistic tribute to Miltown’s capacity to rid the mind of troubling distractions and free it for genius"

The Age of Anxiety: A History of America's Turbulent Affair with Tranquilizers. Andrea Tone. 2008. Chapter 2. The Making of Miltown