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Misc Carisoprodol (Soma) ....thoughts & experiences ?

Halif2 said:
what's that all about?!
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I wouldn't necessarily say that's the case, but it goes on a batch by batch basis. I often buy 50-200g at a time in half gram pressies, and per batch my fiance and I both establish the "shake point" where we can't take more without getting the Soma shakes, then from there we have a pretty well established boundary on what to stay below. Usually for me that's about 2.25g (I weigh 100kg), and for my fiance that's usually more like 1.75g, and he weighs about 150 lbs I think?
 
but it goes on a batch by batch basis.
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I was confused for a sec but then saw that you were talking about pressies. That makes sense then. If it's common for people on here to be taking non-pharma made carisoprodol, then that would be a simple answer to why there's such a range of different reactions.

But it still sounds like it can hit very differently from dose to dose (even from the same batch). While it's nothing weird to react differently to the same dose from the same batch on different days (due to your bodies condition and a million other variables), it does sound a bit extreme for some people to be saying that one day it hits and the next it does nothing. Does tolerance develop especially quickly?

Anyway, I am just curious for the sake of curiosity. I don't have any particular desire to try it. Unless.... for someone who has opioids, benzos, and pregabalin, would there be something that carisoprodol could bring that the others can't?

Lastly, why did you provide your weight in kilograms, but your partner's weight in pounds? This is so inconsequential, but I have to know!
 
Halif2 said:
Lastly, why did you provide your weight in kilograms, but your partner's weight in pounds? This is so inconsequential, but I have to know!
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I'm American but grew up near Canada, and was stoned to the bone when writing that response hahaha, that's really it. I often try to default to kg given that the majority of the world uses metric, but in my stoned stupor I couldn't conveniently recall what his weight would be in metric, mine is a convenient 100kg.
Halif2 said:
Anyway, I am just curious for the sake of curiosity. I don't have any particular desire to try it. Unless.... for someone who has opioids, benzos, and pregabalin, would there be something that carisoprodol could bring that the others can't?
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As an enthusiast of various downers, I'd consider carisoprodol worth it, it's an all time favorite of myself and many others. Uniquely it combines really well with other GABA agents and potentiates the hell out of them, I always say that you should cut doses by a third when using carisoprodol to potentiate anything else.
Halif2 said:
But it still sounds like it can hit very differently from dose to dose (even from the same batch). While it's nothing weird to react differently to the same dose from the same batch on different days (due to your bodies condition and a million other variables), it does sound a bit extreme for some people to be saying that one day it hits and the next it does nothing. Does tolerance develop especially quickly
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I found tolerance to only develop after about a month of regular use, but I could never get any withdrawals even coming off of 5-6 grams a day. I would sometimes crush up highly irregular batches, put the powder in Tupperware and shake the fuck out of it, then put the equivalent weight of a single pressed tablet (average out ten for the best results) into a gel cap, it often helped consistency. Similar techniques for homogenizing mushrooms can be quite helpful to not get assblasted by a stray abort.
 
Soma is by far the best "downer" imo. The fact that carisoprodol metabolizes into meprobamate is the best part of it. It's a 2 for 1 kinda experience. The carisoprodol is a very tingly euphoric body high that although shortly lived, quickly metabolizes into an old school downer that leaves you drooling and provides incredible sleep aid & pain relief. Some say that a tolerance quickly builds, but i've personally found that as long as you keep it to 1 dosing per day & on an empty stomach, a tolerance never really builds. The carisoprodol effects do wear off once food is introduced, so I usually try and not eat for 2 hrs after ingesting my dose to eat. But be careful, once the meprobamate kicks in you can easily fall asleep with a mouth full of food lol, which can obviously be dangerous. A good 3-4hrs of not eating before dosing is my usual schedule. For me, it's an after work kinda thing, and being a non drinker, it is the closest thing by far that resembles getting drunk. I love it. My usual dose is around a gram (3 pills of 350mg, "pain o soma" brand). Cheap as dirt too.

I also take Diazepam daily (30-40mg total, usually 10mg at a time), and that can be risky buisiness mixing with Soma so I usually keep the Valium to the early hours of the day with atleast a few hours between the Soma ingestion. With my tolerance to both I have found comfort in taking 5mg Valium with my evening Soma dose tho, they go well together. It's just risky (so i've been told, never had any CNS problems personally).

As for mixing it with opiates, less is more. My opiate of choice is Tapentadol (it's the only pharma grade I have access to that comes in blister packs, so i know it's purity is legit). If I take 100mg Tapentadol, I find that just 75mg of Soma is just the right amount to not only potentiate it, but it also takes the "speedy" effects of Tapentadol down a notch. This also includes my daily Diazepam, which i try to keep to 5mg dose when combing all 3.

I personally find that Soma & Tapentadol are quite easily stopped without much withdrawal or need for tapering. The Diazepam is a different story. Benzo's are a bitch. I'm currently on a taper plan & it just sucks dealing with physical dependency. But as most know, Benzo withdrawal can cause serious life threatening issues if not approached with caution & patience.

Any way, long story short: Soma is super fun for a non drinker! Super dangerous if alcohol is present, don't fuck around with it if you drink.
 
burn out said:
The most notable thing about it for me was the fact that the body feeling was slightly reminiscent of some of the feelings you can get with the amanita muscaria mushroom, which I believe to be the soma of the vedas.

That raises a very interesting question for me, as how to this drug came to be called soma. Was the guy who named it also a user of amanita muscaria and noticed this obscure similarity? Because aside from this slight similarity in one area, the two substances are nothing alike and a relatively crappy pharmaceutical drug with limited recreational value is hardly worthy of the name "soma".
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Soma was based on Aldous Huxley's fictional drug, soma. Some researchers had begun to use the name casually to refer to an idealized pharmaceutical. Meprobamate became somewhat known as that soma a few decades after Huxley's book (brand name, Miltown). Carisoprodol is almost identical to meprobamate and was released four years after meprobamate and literally became known as Soma. Huxley, himself, promoted meprobamate.

"More than a medical phenomenon, the little white pill shaped an era. For millions of Americans, Miltown was a new and seemingly harmless drug to be experienced, experimented with, and enjoyed. Miltown inspired new beverages and jewelry. It was discussed and joked about in magazines, on radio, on Broadway, and on television. Salvador Dali paid artistic tribute to Miltown’s capacity to rid the mind of troubling distractions and free it for genius; Aldous Huxley proclaimed that Miltown would inaugurate an era of great fun. So far-reaching was its cultural import, so seamless was its integration into America’s social and linguistic fabric, that by the late 1950s Miltown needed no explicit explanation. The word had become shorthand for a cultural phenomenon people intuitively understood."

The Age of Anxiety: A History of America's Turbulent Affair with Tranquilizers. Andrea Tone. 2008. Chapter 2. The Making of Miltown
 
Soma is alright tbf. I mean if you don't mind taking a dangerous and addictive substance. I've not touched it in a while. No plans too. But oh you know, tried it now. The seed will always be there.

Holy Trinity is excellent. Very moreish. Say start on weekends but you soon be moving it onto weeks nights. Then every day. I would recommend a reasonably empty stomach. Take soma (1g ish) about 10-15 mins before opiate. Then benzo sublingual at same time as opiete. Xanax and Clonazepam work well. Sit down somewhere comfy. If the stars align and small works you'll get intense rush for 10-15 mins followed by mellow buzz. You will not be as in control or as you think. Be careful. Or don't.

If you get bored and decide to redose... Then oopsie... Might break something. Soma shuffle is intense Parkinson's like tremor beyond control. Quite disturbing for you n folk around you. Possibly leading to seizure. No stars. Just don't.
 
I’m literally on day 31 goin on 20 days, apparently that breathing machine is
important they send home with you or you get Pneumonia of l4/l5 spinal360
Fusion…….this methAcarbamol sucks, Cyclobenzaprine or flexeril don’t work.

I need pain o soma
Soma
Any of them. remove them working for me in high school football days and only those. So I know it’s Christmas time so shipping would be a nightmare, but gotta start asap.

Maybe I’ve been out of the game for a while, but why is it like forbidden to mention soma here in the US?

Then I think the office assistant fucked up and wrote my script for 30 days instead of the 7-10 (like the previous 4 scripts . 3 before and 1 after the 30 day)so it looked like I went through my pain med to last 30 days in 9 days The doctor told me that last night that she would never ever write one for 30 days. And said the pharmacy did it. I did let her know about an email I sent before that script and magically. It was a 30 Day script and I saved zero money Havnt been able to sleep bc of the pain bc I truly feels like their mistake. But they’re using it against me, saying we’re worried about you and saying you don’t sound like yourself to cover themselves. Yeah no crap about sounding like myself. I’m still getting over pneumonia. My wife was here for 30 days watching me Monday, She went back to work. I finally ran out of pain meds on that day. Shit was fucking harder than I imagined.

Now journavx
Methacarbmol
Steroids

Bruh this isn’t helping

I just switched Pharmacies because CVS has fucked me over so many times even knowimg my narcotics would not transfer. Guess we’ll see. Hopefully Kroger’s good.


Rant FINISHED, but if anyone has experience in that, please help me in any way possible I didn’t think this could be this shitty four weeks in. My wife was doing my meds every five hours so of course I felt great. Two oxy tens every 4-5 hours. Damn now I realize what I’m really going through currently.
 
Yeah, tizanidine sucks too. Basically, Soma works well cuz it's barbiturate-like—same reason Quaaludes work well. And all of those things are seen as narcotics—because they are.

Legal highs that target GABA that might help: phenibut, f-phenibut, fasoracetam, amanita, gaboxadol (amanita derivative—rare).
 
Been taking Soma for a while, usually 2-3 times a week, 1000mg orally on an empty stomach with a little cannabis and/or a beer or 2. I'm 280lbs, at this amount it just chills me out, nice and relaxing. I've taken a few breaks but when I return I get the same effect. I don't seem to build a tolerance at 2-3 times a week. If I go much over 1000mg orally it makes me nod out, so not really getting the benefit or noticing any euphoria or anything other than muscle relaxing.

Recently I've been experimenting with sublingual use, I've titrated up to 1000mg, the effect is much better, now getting some mild euphoria and barbiturate effects, sleep is noticeably improved as well compared to oral. I was expecting sublingual to be faster acting, more intense, and shorter duration, however I'm finding that it is faster acting and more intense, but if anything the duration seems longer!

750mg sublingual (1.5 tablets) didn't have this effect.

The issue I have now though is that 1000mg sublingual is making me nod out - it's maybe only for 30 mins, but given the duration of effect this isn't ideal.

Anyone taking an stim to help counteract the nodding? I've read a few post of people taking soma with amphetamines, anyone use a little bit of cocaine to help reduce the nod? know mixing uppers and downers can cause stress on your system, but are there any safer combos out there?
 
nothing orally, mild hangover in the morning sublingual but not noticed anything specifically from a memory perspective
 
That's odd because I once fell in a doctor's office while on it and forgot about the incident.
 
placebonaut said:
Been taking Soma for a while, usually 2-3 times a week, 1000mg orally on an empty stomach with a little cannabis and/or a beer or 2. I'm 280lbs, at this amount it just chills me out, nice and relaxing. I've taken a few breaks but when I return I get the same effect. I don't seem to build a tolerance at 2-3 times a week. If I go much over 1000mg orally it makes me nod out, so not really getting the benefit or noticing any euphoria or anything other than muscle relaxing.

Recently I've been experimenting with sublingual use, I've titrated up to 1000mg, the effect is much better, now getting some mild euphoria and barbiturate effects, sleep is noticeably improved as well compared to oral. I was expecting sublingual to be faster acting, more intense, and shorter duration, however I'm finding that it is faster acting and more intense, but if anything the duration seems longer!

750mg sublingual (1.5 tablets) didn't have this effect.

The issue I have now though is that 1000mg sublingual is making me nod out - it's maybe only for 30 mins, but given the duration of effect this isn't ideal.

Anyone taking an stim to help counteract the nodding? I've read a few post of people taking soma with amphetamines, anyone use a little bit of cocaine to help reduce the nod? know mixing uppers and downers can cause stress on your system, but are there any safer combos out there?
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I always took a caffeine pill with it, I used it in escalating amounts from 1.5->6g daily over a couple weeks, stopped because I just forgot to keep taking them and didn't seem to exhibit any withdrawal which was strange. Mixing uppers and downers only "stresses your system" when the mechanisms are antagonistic towards one another, but there isn't any overlap from what caffeine does and what carisoprodol does as far as I'm aware. Cocaine though I have no idea, I took some Soma while off a large quantity of coca tincture once and it was quite nice, but nothing more special than just both drugs hanging out, no special synergy or anything.
 
Esperighanto said:
I always took a caffeine pill with it, I used it in escalating amounts from 1.5->6g daily over a couple weeks, stopped because I just forgot to keep taking them and didn't seem to exhibit any withdrawal which was strange. Mixing uppers and downers only "stresses your system" when the mechanisms are antagonistic towards one another, but there isn't any overlap from what caffeine does and what carisoprodol does as far as I'm aware. Cocaine though I have no idea, I took some Soma while off a large quantity of coca tincture once and it was quite nice, but nothing more special than just both drugs hanging out, no special synergy or anything.
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thanks, maybe a mild stim like caffeine would work, though I don't really want anything that is going to impact sleep, caffeine can stay in my system a bit too long for my liking ideally, but maybe a cup a tea could be just enough, worth experimenting with! Cocaine is usually ok for me to take light doses of up to 4 hours before I go to bed without major impact on sleep.

Think I might try tea an hour before the Soma, see how that goes.
 
placebonaut said:
thanks, maybe a mild stim like caffeine would work, though I don't really want anything that is going to impact sleep, caffeine can stay in my system a bit too long for my liking ideally, but maybe a cup a tea could be just enough, worth experimenting with! Cocaine is usually ok for me to take light doses of up to 4 hours before I go to bed without major impact on sleep.

Think I might try tea an hour before the Soma, see how that goes.
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For more dosing accuracy, acquiring some purified theanine and gel caps may be of interest too, it's weaker than caffeine.
 
Can the carisporodol be extracted from the tablets for volumetric dosing? Probably not worth it but if it's been done would be cool.
 
Well, I've now had the chance to try out Soma about a dozen or so times, and to answer my own previous question:

for someone who has opioids, benzos, and pregabalin, would there be something that carisoprodol could bring that the others can't?
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Yes! Carisoprodol is really its own thing, and I think it's pretty neat.

Uniquely it combines really well with other GABA agents and potentiates the hell out of them, I always say that you should cut doses by a third when using carisoprodol to potentiate anything else.
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This one surprised me quite a bit. Not to say I didn't believe what you were saying, but yeah I'd say that's pretty spot on when it comes to combining benzos and Soma - only need a third of the usual benzo dose unless you want to really jelly out. I even found a combo of pregabalin, alprazolam, and Soma potent enough to overcome RLS and get some sleep while in opiate withdrawal.

Opiates and Soma also made a nice combo.

It's a pretty versatile substance; it mixes well with different stuff but has enough of a character to be enjoyed on its own, too. The only issue is what I've seen other people commenting on: tolerance. I found that a gram was a perfect amount for a while until it suddenly wasn't. i tried upping the dose a bit but didn't get much effect and I've decided to just take a break altogether rather than trying to keep pushing the dose. Hopefully after a few weeks I'll be able to enjoy it again.
 
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