Car accident left me in constant neck/spine pain.

[Missykins]

..Caved in, I've been in major pain latly. I got an Opana 20 just so that I can atleast walk, and feel somewhat normal...What can I do to prolong the effects of Opana?...

If you continue to use Opana illicitly your doctor will not be able to help you. I also believe that you use Opana for reasons other than pain, given your
prior history with the drug. This doesn't make you a bad person, but it is something you should consider.

Also, this forum (TDS) is not the forum for questions pertaining to the prolongation of the effects of a particular drug. "Other Drugs" is the forum for
such questions.

 

[OctoberRust12]

If you continue to use Opana illicitly your doctor will not be able to help you. I also believe that you use Opana for reasons other than pain, given your
prior history with the drug. This doesn't make you a bad person, but it is something you should consider.

Also, this forum (TDS) is not the forum for questions pertaining to the prolongation of the effects of a particular drug. "Other Drugs" is the forum for
such questions.

Yeah, today was my last one, and I swear by that My next doc appt is a little over 2 weeks from now, so i'll start taking my hydrocodone's again even though they dont work. Supposed to take 1 every 4-6 hours.

I was just asking a quick Q rather than making a quick topic.And i wasn't like saying what other drugs can I take with an opana to increase it. I was more along the lines of maybe any certain teas, coffee, fruits...

 

[Missykins]

Yeah, today was my last one, and I swear by that My next doc appt is a little over 2 weeks from now, so i'll start taking my hydrocodone's again even though they dont work. Supposed to take 1 every 4-6 hours.

Perhaps you should be honest with your physician about your use of Opana, both past and present. It certainly won't be
the first time your doctor has heard something like that from a patient.

 

[OctoberRust12]

Perhaps you should be honest with your physician about your use of Opana, both past and present. It certainly won't be
the first time your doctor has heard something like that from a patient.

I don't know... I kinda don't feel comfertable telling him about my opana usses. He won't like to hear that at all, and would give me shit about it. I gotta go to therapy on the 27th this moth then after I gotta make an appointment with a PM Doc

 

[yteek]

They use them to get high if they are not serious about their pain management. I take as prescribed at all times.

Honestly though, it really doesn't make much of a difference at all. Your brain/body can not distinguish the difference rather the drug is for recreational or medicinal purposes.Buying opana's off the street and being dishonest with your physician about it really doesn't sound like you're taking pain management too serious (with all due respect). Did you snort the opana?

A lot of the same risk are still there including addiction even if you follow the doctor's directions. I've seen plenty of innocent patients ending up addicted to their meds and with the nature of opiods its in their nature they alter the way your body perceives pain for better or worst. They can eventually distort pain levels and actually amplify them in the long run. Also why take the hydrocodone if they don't work, that sounds like addiction right there.

It usually turns into a never ending cycle
Tolerance goes up, typical dosages don't work, pain comes back, doses go up... then it happens again and again. It then gets to a point where they don't do much for your pain and they just keep you normal(for lack of a better word) but in reality it continues to make everything worst then you're able to realize.

 

[OctoberRust12]

Honestly though, it really doesn't make much of a difference at all. Your brain/body can not distinguish the difference rather the drug is for recreational or medicinal purposes.Buying opana's off the street and being dishonest with your physician about it really doesn't sound like you're taking pain management too serious (with all due respect). Did you snort the opana?

A lot of the same risk are still there including addiction even if you follow the doctor's directions. I've seen plenty of innocent patients ending up addicted to their meds and with the nature of opiods its in their nature they alter the way your body perceives pain for better or worst. They can eventually distort pain levels and actually amplify them in the long run. Also why take the hydrocodone if they don't work, that sounds like addiction right there.

It usually turns into a never ending cycle
Tolerance goes up, typical dosages don't work, pain comes back, doses go up... then it happens again and again. It then gets to a point where they don't do much for your pain and they just keep you normal(for lack of a better word) but in reality it continues to make everything worst then you're able to realize.

I'm not going to sit here and lie to a complete stranger over the internet to impress. Yes, I did snort the opana. Why? Because as of now, I've been in the same pain since the accident and have had no reliefe. Ofcourse the hydros are not going to help me. I knew that from the begining. I am taking them because I want to show my doctor that I have been following his instructions and yet I am not finding any adiquite relief from anything. I knew the opana was going to make me feel alot better with my PAIN so yes in desperate times calls for desperate measures I guess. I am in a lot of pain and all I wanted was for one day, to be able to feel as close as I did before, before my life got turned around and now im in constant pain. If you don't mind me asking, are you in chronic pain? If so then I would guess you may know what it feels like to have constant pain, and that one feeling of being able to not be in so much pain. Of course im going to jump on that wagon, I'm very desperate for sleep, desperate for pain relief. I'm not going to sit there and fight with my doctor for something stronger than what he has givin' me. But, just for 1 day, I wanted to feel like myself again. I didn't want to look like I was miserable because of the pain bringing mine, and my girlfriends mood down. Every time I go up/down staires, I grunt in pain. Whenever I pick up something halfway heavy for move a certain way, I grunt in pain. Do you think I really want to live my life like this at age 21? Hell no, I'm not perfect, if I can find instant relief, im sorry but I'm going to do it. I'm taking the hydros so that it's in my system incase he/she checks. My next appointment is not for another week so im sure the opana will be out by then... Sorry for sounding hostile it's just I'm sick of this, and I don't want to feel like this at such a young age. It's depressing thinking I'm half the man I was because I'm not like how I used to be. My pride has left me through the front door.


Anyways, Happy holdidays BL'ers! Be safe!

 

[brighton]

If you continue to use Opana illicitly your doctor will not be able to help you. I also believe that you use Opana for reasons other than pain, given your
prior history with the drug. This doesn't make you a bad person, but it is something you should consider.

Also, this forum (TDS) is not the forum for questions pertaining to the prolongation of the effects of a particular drug. "Other Drugs" is the forum for
such questions.

for real? do you have chronic pain? and have all your doctors been completely amazing????

i buy my breakthru meds off the street, because my doctors are all pretty useless. maybe in a perfect world people would not have to do this.

 

[OctoberRust12]

Yeah, I just really need that breakthrough pain. I want to work again. Even if I can't do the work I did before, atleast be able to do something.

 

[yteek]

My mom has had chronic back pain for several years, coming from car accidents,surgeries, and a few falls as well. She also went with the pill route and that became a problem of its own.A lot of of chronic pain patients have to deal with pain the rest of their lives and I just think relying on opiates can become impractical and usually end up making the situation worst in the long run.

 

[Doomed2pain]

i've never had a psychological problem with my meds as they do not touch my pain and give me nothing but bad side effects. I quit fentanyl and then morphine on my own no bother during the summer in order to get my physical tolerance down then went back on morphine in sept as the winter is when I get my severe pain relapses. i'm on a shit tonne of meds now been bed bound for over 3 weeks and my meds are doing little, but i still take as prescribed because that it what my dr has told me to do.

It is a very low percentage of long term chronic pain patients that get psychologically addicted rather than the usual physical dependance and tolerance. i know this to be true as I have made lots of friends with my physical condition who aren't psychologically addicted, don't abuse their meds and just develop physical dependence. Our brain's are different than a normal persons so the meds don't get us high and rarely provide adequate analgesia.

Honestly though, it really doesn't make much of a difference at all. Your brain/body can not distinguish the difference rather the drug is for recreational or medicinal purposes.Buying opana's off the street and being dishonest with your physician about it really doesn't sound like you're taking pain management too serious (with all due respect). Did you snort the opana?

A lot of the same risk are still there including addiction even if you follow the doctor's directions. I've seen plenty of innocent patients ending up addicted to their meds and with the nature of opiods its in their nature they alter the way your body perceives pain for better or worst. They can eventually distort pain levels and actually amplify them in the long run. Also why take the hydrocodone if they don't work, that sounds like addiction right there.

It usually turns into a never ending cycle
Tolerance goes up, typical dosages don't work, pain comes back, doses go up... then it happens again and again. It then gets to a point where they don't do much for your pain and they just keep you normal(for lack of a better word) but in reality it continues to make everything worst then you're able to realize.

 

[Missykins]

for real? do you have chronic pain? and have all your doctors been completely amazing????

i buy my breakthru meds off the street, because my doctors are all pretty useless. maybe in a perfect world people would not have to do this.

You don't know anything about me. And have you ever tried being honest with your doctor or have you just made assumptions about him/her as you have me?

 

[Doomed2pain]

no need for arguments. Have you/are you a pain patient missykins? Just curious of your experiences

 

[Missykins]

no need for arguments. Have you/are you a pain patient missykins? Just curious of your experiences

It doesn't matter if I am, or if I am not, if I've cared for someone who was, or have not. The bottom line is that you need to work with your doctor to
build a mutually trusting relationship, discussing breakthrough pain with your doctor before obtaining medications illicitly, and closely monitoring
your own behaviour. These are your responsibilities as a "pain patient."

 

[Doomed2pain]

Me and my dr are truating and listen to each other it's taken a long time but i have a brilliant gp and am currently waiting to see yet another specialist hopefully before feb to see aout me going abroad to get put into a medically induced coma for 10 days. Risky treatment but if it might ease my pain a little i am willing to take the gamble. I will try anything i can get my hands on and if it means going a long long way i do notcare, i am going full body and i cannot cope with being like this for the next 50+ years, 29 months has been hellish enough and it worsens each time i have a pain relapse.

 

[OctoberRust12]

Deleted. Don't want drama hahaha

-OR

 

[yteek]

Honestly, I think it wasn't meant to be hostile or judgmental... just bluntly honest about the situation. I think she's right, I've had a family member addicted to meds for awhile(a person with real back issues, car accidents, surgeries... the whole nine yards). Eventually she did become addicted and it is a slippery slope no one is prepared for or really knows how to prevent. When you're buying opana off the street and snorting them, I'm sorry to say but that does look like the start of an issue down the road.. not saying that will happen but be careful. It is important to be up front and honest and up front with your doctor and not hide and leave out things just to not risk losing meds.... it does sound kinda manipulative(no offense).

 

[Missykins]

Deleted. Don't want drama hahaha

-OR

Whatever that means.

 

[Ixchellian]

ORust- have you heard of trigger-point injections?

It's an outpatient procedure, whereupon the doctor uses a very fine needle to inject a type of Botox into spasming back-muscles, causing them to relax. It takes about 30min tops, and provides relief from spasm-related back pain for 1-3 weeks. I've been getting them periodically for the last 3yrs. My relief usually lasts about 2 weeks, and is effective enough to the point where I no longer have to take muscle relaxers. As a result of the diminished back spasms, the actual nerve-pain has been cut down a lot as well. That is a big reason why I was able to cut way back on opiates, and was eventually able to stop taking them for pain-management.

 

[effie]

October Rust, thank you for deciding to prevent things escalating. People have differing opinions on this, and that is fine, they are all valid - I would hate to see your thread turn into an argument as that isn't productive for anyone

I completely understand you needing to snort Opana to get relief for breakthrough pain - I don't think there are many people who could resist getting that relief if it was available to me. However, it also concerns me hugely when chronic pain patients also "abuse" (for want of a better term) opiates - all it takes is for you to be labeled a drug seeker or a drug addict and pain clinics will refuse to treat you, cutting you off completely. This is why people are concerned about it and why they feel you should be honest with your doctor - perhaps not about the Opana, but that your current regime isn't coming anywhere near to controlling your pain.

It is definitely worth exploring other options, as Ix mentioned. There are a wide range of procedures that can be performed usually by anaesthetists these days - a pain management doctor should know about the options available. As other have said there are also non-opioid medications which can work well for nerve pain caused by back injuries such as amitriptyline, gabapentin and pregabalin, and NSAIDs such as naproxen. There are also local anaesthetic patches you can use. The other thing to consider is that your psychological wellbeng hugely affects how you perceive and handle pain - if you are feeling depressed (which I imagine you are from reading your posts, and very understandably!) then it might be a good idea to think about trying to tackle that - even if it eases things slightly, it might be enough to make life a lot more bearable for you. Are you having any counselling or any form of therapy?

I am so glad you have found TDS and people going through a similar experience to you - I hope it is helping you

Good luck, and let us know how you get on

 

[Doomed2pain]

this is exactly why i take my meds as prescribed. this pain flare i am in has had me vomitting from pain, slept only 12 hours in 14 days etc, and I could have very easily took more of my meds or bought some off the street, but i didn't I waited 2 weeks to get better meds.

I think that once octoberR gets on gabapentin with naproxen and the correct physio every day he could get back to normal quite quickly. I was left waiting for physio and guanthedine nerve blocks for 12 months after my accident and I was already well into stage 3 by then, i was badly ley down by the system.

please excuse the typos bad pain day today.

OR are you still keeping a pain and mental health diary for your dr? You wouldn't believe how important a pain journal is, I write in mine every 2 hours. Can't do my physio atm as I am bed bound and in too much pain as it is, but doing your 0hysio exercises little and often is the key, do not over do it and hurt yourself, find a right amount like 10 reps of your stretching every 2 hours.

hope your pain isn't as bad today hun