Can't roll anymore

[Desohigh]

Hello BL people,

I'm using mdma since 2years, sometimes I abuse (2-3days in 30days) but usually use it once per month.
I never exceed 500mg-600mg per session and get 1 inital +2redoses.
MDMA around here is not pure like in Amsterdam or in Europe but sometimes the quality is similar in some batches.
That's why I always start low and increase after 45mins.

I gave a 1 month break as always and tried to roll last week.
But I didn't feel the full effects, maybe a little tingle and that's it. I redosed, but no effect.
I give up and get some k and went home with my friends.
I feel a little bad next day and it passed.

I'm still dosing the same as I started using mdma and since 3-4 months, I can't even roll - sometimes I puke - sometimes I feel low effects. But my friends roll harder than me with the same batch.

I think my tolerance rise up or I lost the magic. But on the other hand, some abuser kids roll every week very hard without giving breaks

It's summer time and ofc there will be events which I will eventually try to roll with my friends but;
how should I increase the dosage? What should I do to roll with full effects?

I will give myself a break at the end of summer like 6-9 months but I know that I can't give break on summer.
My next roll will be around 25july (5-6weeks later). Any suggestions?

Btw I'm around 200pounds.

 

[nightElf]

My only suggestion is: don't roll. If you don't get the "good side" of it, it means that you will only get the "bad side" (the comedown and the toxicity). And every time you do it it will be worse.

Other thing that I've heard that might bring the magic back is a drug called PIRACETAM (source). Perhaps you can give it a try.

 

[bootie]

I have the same problem, last year probably 2 months of straight use weekly, now it just puts me to sleep

 

[CrypticArc]

600mg is a ridiculously high dose. Even 250mg is too much for the majority of people I know. if you keep rolling try to cut down a little, or you'll keep running into the same problem over and over.

 

[Innerpeace]

im 250 lbs (not fat lol had to ut that) anyways my dose is always within the normal range, not even the strong strong range and I roll hard. I use to abuse using on average once a week for six months, id take two month breaks, the never really came back, just stimulation/some euphroia...no serotnin feeling magic, deep empathy-you need a long long break like two years.

 

[Innerpeace]

600mg is a ridiculously high dose. Even 250mg is too much for the majority of people I know. if you keep rolling try to cut down a little, or you'll keep running into the same problem over and over.

even using normal dosing once every three months some tolerance builds some, but nothing like using once a month, and you can most likely stay within light -moderate dosing range and keep the magic.

 

[Desohigh]

Hey! thanks for the posts.

I think my dealer is cutting but can't know for sure because testers gives the result mdma.
Please don't compare with the European HQ mdma, if I come across to that of course I take around 160-200mg and roll pretty hard.
I remember my last roll was on March- it was awesome with one good mdma batch. Till then I can't roll.

Maybe I'll try another source and dose up until I roll. Let's be honest, you can't give a break on summer.
Also, I don't like other compounds because listening techno is my deal, only roll in techno events. And this year too many famous techno djs are coming..

Damn I will give piracetam a try.

 

[Dresden]

Loss of MDMA magic, as far as I can tell (I first rolled 19 years ago), is permanent.

 

[Desohigh]

I rolled this friday;
I dosed up to 250mg and puked after 30mins.
Dosed again 1h later - normal (150mg) and rolled nicely.

I think it's highly dose dependent. There's no loss of magic, just shit mdma.

 

[Kl519]

I used to think it was dose dependent too, and I guess to an extent it is. But tolerance has been much more of a factor for me. I've taken extraordinary amounts at once (though not as much as some of the examples I've been seeing here), but I didn't get a proper roll sometimes.

If you are new to it you could roll hard with the magic intact for quite a while, and not even have to follow the 1-3 month rule. But that's like flooring it to the finish line labeled "lost the magic," depending on the amount and frequency. I'll soon see if other methods might work to bring it back though.

Btw, there are a lot of strong pills out nowadays. Supposedly above the 200mg range each. I haven't had mdma powder/crystals all that often, but whenever I did I always tested them 100% of the time. Or friends would test them themselves, since they are probably more prudent than I am. Mdma is popular enough to invite shady people to cut that shit, fill it with adulterants or substitute with something else entirely.

I have rarely sourced substances from newbies or irresponsible/shady connects, even back in my reckless days. I certainly haven't for quite a long time now. But it sucks because it seems like there are still connects out there that are shady enough to only care about the $$. I really hope the majority of connects are testing their own stuff in this day and age.