Can't get high at all(Vicodin/Ambien/molly/codeine)

[meowcats]

Here is some brief history: I am in my low 20s, and I can drink a shit ton, completely black out and I NEVER wake up with a hangover. I never throw up, maybe once from drinking. I usually just blackout and wake up the next morning perfect. I get sick once a year and it is a common cold. I take a hit or two of weed and I get high. I smoke often, and I have never built a tolerance, thankfully. My problem comes from pills.

My problem comes from experimenting with other drugs.
-I have taken 5mg of vicadin orally and then snorted another 5mg and I feel no effects. I literally feel perfect. My friend who did them with me got fucked up.
-Tried percocets and same thing again.
-I was recently prescribed 5mg Ambien. Me and my friend both took 2, he was extremely fucked and and again I felt nothing. For every 15 minutes in which I felt nothing, i took another pill. By the end of the night I had taken 7-8 (35-40mg), the only thing I felt was very little disorientation.
-I have also taken codeine and 2 pills of molly (dont remember the dosage of either) and that also did not work with me.
Every instance i posted was the FIRST time I have done these drugs.

I have tried ritalin/adderal many times (studying) I feel like they are working. Not sure if its my mind playing trick or they are actually working.

My question is as to why don't these drugs work for me, especially since I took admittedly a dangerous amount of Ambien. Do you think it has to do with my bodys processing power since I can drink a ridiculous amount/blackout and wake up perfect the next morning? It would be nice to feel effects of these different drugs.I know these aren't fake drugs because they always work for my friend.

I just want to point out before I get lectured on being safe on taking dosage I always try to stay safe, but became frustrated with my inability to feel effects of the Ambien (incredibly stupid reason for taking more).

 

[laCster]

do you smoke cigarettes or drink alot of coffee? is your source always legit? did you feel them at first, but then couldnt feel them all of a sudden? where do you get these pills, off the street, scrips, friends, ect..???

 

[meowcats]

I drink coffee occasionally. I am able to drink coffee and energy drinks and fall asleep a second later, i drink it more for the taste, makes me a little bit more awake, but I can literally go to sleep after drinking an entire cup. I DO NOT smoke cigarettes. I have tried chewing tabacco 2 times and both times it fucked me up bad within 10 minutes, i couldnt handle it at all.

My sources are always legit, always from someone with a prescription, ambien (my own prescrip). I know the drugs are good because I always do it with a friend who gets messed up on the usual dosage that would get you high.

 

[laCster]

well if you drink coffee and ambien or vicodin or benzos/opiates how depending on your tolerance, may overpower your high.

the first couple times with opiates and benzos i wasnt able to say "i felt good" idk, i guess i just didnt get high. it wasnt until i upped my dosaged and started taking them more often to where i was able to better distinguish the opiate high or benzo buzz .

how many mg hydrocodone is your usual dose? what is your usual benzo dose?

 

[meowcats]

well if you drink coffee and ambien or vicodin or benzos/opiates how depending on your tolerance, may overpower your high.

the first couple times with opiates and benzos i wasnt able to say "i felt good" idk, i guess i just didnt get high. it wasnt until i upped my dosaged and started taking them more often to where i was able to better distinguish the opiate high or benzo buzz .

how many mg hydrocodone is your usual dose? what is your usual benzo dose?

I have tried 10 mg (oral/snort) and another day 15mg. Isn't ambien (35mg) a non-benzo.
I do as much research as possible when dosing, because I like to be informed, when it comes to things that could perm effect my life. On the days I have tried these I usually don't eat much before the dosage and I won't take stimulants. My tolerance is non existant, in my post I wrote that many of them was my FIRST TIME. Ambien (35mg) first time, and nothing. 10 mg hydrocodone (snort/oral) first time and nothing.

I think me never getting hangovers maybe has a tie in with specifically pills not working for me along with me not getting sick. I have had morphine (IV) in a hospital once and it was amazing amazing. Weed has worked. Those basically have been the only 3 things that have worked for me.

 

[pasha]

I don't think your metabolism is flawed because you seem to be having this problem with different drugs that are metabolized differently.

When you tried the codeine, you took it the MDMA (molly) a stimulant. Stimulants and opioids can cancel each others effects out so that may have been the issue on that occasion. If you take the MDMA alone and you don't feel it at all, then rest assured that is not MDMA.

Zolpiden (ambien) is not really a drug of intense euphoria or recreation. It's recreational effects for those who enjoy it, spring from its psychedelic properties. Non-benzodiazepines and benzodiazepines, are usually not very euphoric drugs.

The effects of drugs tend to be dose-dependent, but there are people IME, which tend to have a mental barrier with drugs, or they fail to acknowledge or identify when a drug is working, especially when the drugs in question are opioids. I have friends who can take very high doses of oxycodone, and not really feel anything, or understand the effects. For some, it takes opioids that have an extremely clear cut line of being and not being under the influence to defeat that barrier. IV morphine, would definitely fall into the 'clear cut' category.

Also, if you're judging your current opioid experiences by your IV morphine experience, this could be contributing to your mental barrier. Most of the time, this issue resolves itself after the initial phase of experimenting is over, and the user has gained more experience with opioids, their effects, and appropriate dosages.

 

[dirzted]

I don't understand the thing with Ambien but if you took 5mg hydrocodone and then snorted 5mg, that really isn't enough for most people to feel effects anyways. Especially if you snorted it (bioavailabilitys pretty low)

 

[AlphaMethylPhenyl]

High doses of Ambien definitely produced euphoria for me outside of psychedelia.

 

[laCster]

do NOT snort hydrocodone, as you probably have a hydrocodone/apap or ibuprofen mixture and you will seriously seriously fuck up your nose! just swallow them!!

10mg is too small of a dose for you for hydrocodone. try 20-30mg hydrocodone and then come back and say you still dont feel anything....

also with benzos, people usually over-estimate their euphoria potential and are expecting like a line of coke or a shot of morphine when all they really provide is a "more chill atmosphere, and a fuck it attitude." if you have anxiety, like me and many others, just being removed from that anxious state is enough to produce a euphoric response.

ambien is weird because zolpidem has a unique psychedelia at high doses which is unlike other benzos which many people enjoy. in addition, some benzos like temazepam, have certain pharmacokinetics and procure a rapid onset of relaxtion and sedation with anxiolysis that creates a nice chill, relaxed, "feeling."

if you dont experience a high from it than seriously, good for you! you dont have to battle through addiction because drugs arent even appealing in the first place! id love to be in your shoes..seriously. i feel like i would be like light-years ahead if i hadnt done some of the drugs i have done. poignantly, everybody has their achellies tendon, a weakness, that they must battle through. earth is definitely a dog eat dog world. so ask yourself, are you going to succumb to the beast and be eaten alive, or will you strive to push yourself to new limits? (matrix: red or blue pill??? which will you choose?)

 

[pizzystrizzy]

Its possible that you might respond better next time to the same dose of the opiates and/or mdma due to sensitization (basically a reverse tolerance that can develop early on to certain effects of the drugs when used intermittently). In my experience, I've never seen anyone really be all that impressed with cocaine (I realize that one wasn't on your list, but same principle applies) until the second or third time they did it. Or it could be that you are a rapid metabolizer or that something unique about your brain chemistry makes it so you need a higher dose than other drug naive people. You could decide that recreational drugs aren't your thing -- which really might be a blessing in disguise, or you could decide you want to keep experimenting, but if you do, I urge caution with dosages. Don't just take a much larger dose to see if it works-- slowly titrate yourself up each time you try them until you figure out the minimum dose that produces the subjective effects you are looking for. Sometimes these things can be non-linear. For example, I can take 50mg of, say, methiopropamine and barely notice that I took something, but 100mg and be soaring -- whereas if the effects were linear I'd expect double the dose to produce double the effect. It seems intuitive but it definitely isn't how drugs work, so if you do try to raise the dose be careful about it. Good luck!

 

[Venrak]

Some times, especially with opiates, some stimulants, and GABAergics, you have to come to recognize the effects, and as your experience grows in quantity it will often grow in quality.

 

[dopemaster]

Everybodies tolerance is different and some people are actually born opiate tolerant. My suggestion is if that you are dead set on gettting high 1) forget the ambien(its not really a narcotic) 2) do something stronger like oxycodone 3) do more 4) just smoke some weed 5) do good drugs like shrooms and trips. I was always that guy who ingested twice what my friends do. In the interest of HR, use of painkillers to stronger ones and that leads to the needle. I say this cuz I had all the opurtunnities in the world and RUINED my life with IV drug use.

 

[RobotRipping]

Some times, especially with opiates, some stimulants, and GABAergics, you have to come to recognize the effects, and as your experience grows in quantity it will often grow in quality.

yeah that's definitely true IME. It took many attempts at opiates until i started to really enjoy them and now have an extreme nagging desire to always have them. At first though, with no tolerance, opiates kind of suck, lots of side effects, not much euphoria but either way they don't fuck you up. They make you feel amazing. If you are fucked up then i'd say you took too much, i'm always pretty functional even on high doses of hydromorphone or morphine.

z-drugs like ambien are similar, you eventually develop a taste for the effects but most often you just end up blacking out and eating your whole script without realizing it. If you took 40mg and remember the night before perfectly, then i'd find that strange. In any case, OP, you can take this as a sign that you aren't meant to be a drug addict or you can work yourself into it and once opiates/benzos/z-drugs grab you, they don't let go easily. I highly doubt you can't get high at all, it's very unlikely but i don't want to encourage you to pick up an opiate/ambien habit either.

 

[Pagey]

As has been mentioned, opiates have a lot of very subtle effects that you grow to recognise and don't always notice the first time round, especially if you were dosing on the light side. You should also bear in mind that some people have much higher natural tolerances, which could explain why your friend got high off 10mg hydros and you didn't. To be fair, even when I was completely opiate naive I never would've gotten high off that dose. It really depends on the person.
I'm surprised about the percocets though. How much did you take?

As for Ambien, I used to get prescribed that and I honestly don't see any kind of recreational value in them, at all. Those things never got me high. They seem to be very subjetive.

If you didn't feel anything from codeine you may really just not have taken enough. Again, natural tolerance and all that. I needed to take over 200mg my first time, I've heard of people who got insanely high off under 100.

So my guess is you're just unlucky in the sense that your natural tolerance is quite high - that and you may not have noticed all the subtle effects since you're not used to opiates. To be honest though I think you should just be glad you didn't instantly fall in love with them, because nothing good ever comes out of that