Can't fuckin' sleep!!

[JunkieDays]

As some of you may know - I'm an IV heroin user. I recently tapered down to 1 bag of dope a day, the withdrawals were not nearly as bad as they were back when I had my 10 bag-a-day habit.
However, I can't fuckin' sleep for the life of me. I mean, the withdrawal isn't even bad, at all.. -_-
I'm able to sleep in 30 minute intervals, but I always end up waking up, refreshed for an hour or two.

Here's the thing - I have no access to benzo's or any 'good' sleeping aids. This is the 2nd day off dope.
I'm afraid that if I can't fall asleep sometime soon, I'm just going to go score a bag and use that as my 'sleeping aid'
So, does anyone have any tips? Tricks? Anything? I need to sleep, man...

 

[xiferz]

Get some other pills because sleep is not going to happen anyday soon. right now i've been awake for nearly a week since doing a suboxone taper followed by 3 days of very small H shots then I quit totally. w/d will get worse not better - it takes a week. All i'm thinking is shopping but i look at my arms and legs and i don't.

good luck bud.

 

[.:Holy::Toast:.]

I would not go get the dope and tough it out.
It sucks not sleeping, and I couldn't imagine it during a withdrawal but you've been off for two days, no reason to go back now

 

[JunkieDays]

I would not go get the dope and tough it out.
It sucks not sleeping, and I couldn't imagine it during a withdrawal but you've been off for two days, no reason to go back now

Plenty of reason in my eyes. I'm already a diagnosed chronic insomniac + the insomnia ontop of opiate withdrawal? Yeah right... I'll be up for weeks if I don't find some sort of remedy. Dope is looking pretty good.
My withdrawals are minimal & consists of unmotivation, sneezing, and sometimes little spurts of restless legs here & there. I can deal with all that.. just not the 'no sleep' thing... fuck me.

 

[exists]

Try melatonin; take it every night. It doesn't work the 1st time for everyone, so don't get discouraged. It is most definitely not a placebo! Good luck, JD.

 

[opiatekrzy]

im a firm believer that tapering off heroin by using heroin is the worst thing you can do. instead of buying 1 bag to taper, buy a suboxone, or a methadone pill, and do it that way if you're serious about getting clean, the half life will hold you over and you shouldn't have as much problems sleeping or restless legs. a small dose of valium or klonopin wil help great at night for sleep. after physically WD is over, the REAL BATTLE starts. post acute withdtal syndrome. severe mental cravings, sleep issues, diarea..I recommend suboxone therapy short term

 

[belfort]

yeah conside yourself lucky that u at least can sleep in short bursts..when i kicked any opiate, i would be awake for days on end, sleep wasnt possible..kicking oxycontin i was awake for a full 7 days..good times..kicking methadone was the same thing mixed with crippling depression/lethargy

 

[Toz]

Just smoke hashish / weed untill you pass out. That's what I do during withdrawal and it works ten times better than benzos for sleep anyway. Best is of course a combination of both.

 

[opiatekrzy]

when I got arrested, I was WD from heroin and Xanax,i literally was up for 6 days, on day 6, the hallucinations came and delirium...I had to be shipped to the hospital. thought the guards and inmates were trying to gruesomely kill me. if they hadn't put me in pysch ward lock up,. I would of hung myself to avoid these gruesome deaths I hallucinated, stripping me naked, having female inmates get me hard to chop my dick off, axes chainsaws, cut my body in half..it was horrible DTs and sleep deprivation mixed with mostly Xanax WD...plain opiate WD I sleep all day, oer get up for an hour and go back to sleep sweating and extreme leg discomfort and depression and crying spells

 

[missmeyet?]

im a firm believer that tapering off heroin by using heroin is the worst thing you can do. instead of buying 1 bag to taper, buy a suboxone, or a methadone pill, and do it that way if you're serious about getting clean, the half life will hold you over and you shouldn't have as much problems sleeping or restless legs. a small dose of valium or klonopin wil help great at night for sleep. after physically WD is over, the REAL BATTLE starts. post acute withdtal syndrome. severe mental cravings, sleep issues, diarea..I recommend suboxone therapy short term

But that's the problem, he said he has no access to pharms to help him to sleep.

Like someone else said though (and I doubt this is any comfort), be glad you can sleep and feel refreshed even for that short period of time. When I WD from opiates/opioids I don't sleep for at least a week..

Honestly (and I apologize if not), it sounds like you have already made up your mind. I'm not sure what your point is if people tell you "oh there is no reason to go back now" and you argue that there are plenty of reasons...are you asking for advice?

 

[psychonautical420]

Benadryl (diphenhydramine) might be effective in helping you sleep. I don't know shit about withdrawal, and I've never experienced it, but DPH always knocks me the fuck out. In the US its available like everywhere that sells any medications and its over the counter. Don't take too much or you'll get delirious though lol. Try like 50-100 milligrams of it.
Hope this helps.

 

[opiatekrzy]

But that's the problem, he said he has no access to pharms to help him to sleep.

Like someone else said though (and I doubt this is any comfort), be glad you can sleep and feel refreshed even for that short period of time. When I WD from opiates/opioids I don't sleep for at least a week..

Honestly (and I apologize if not), it sounds like you have already made up your mind. I'm not sure what your point is if people tell you "oh there is no reason to go back now"

and you argue that there are plenty of reasons...are you asking for advice?

i don't quite understand where your getting at, are you talking to me or the OP? i don't need any advice....sharing experience..missmeyet? i been up for hours excuse my distorted thinking, amphetamines are getting the best of me and in the middle of a sex session break fro my addiction to speed and sex...who u referring to? u quoted me?

 

[opiatekrzy]

But that's the problem, he said he has no access to pharms to help him to sleep.

Like someone else said though (and I doubt this is any comfort), be glad you can sleep and feel refreshed even for that short period of time. When I WD from opiates/opioids I don't sleep for at least a week..

Honestly (and I apologize if not), it sounds like you have already made up your mind. I'm not sure what your point is if people tell you "oh there is no reason to go back now" and you argue that there are plenty of reasons...are you asking for advice?

no im not asking for any advice im helping with suggestions, forgive me for not reading the post thoroughly as he doesn't have any pharms for sleep, i must of missed it...i don't see any question marks in my post.....exzcuse me if i misinterpreted your post ;-)

 

[bunge]

If you had access to meds other then benzos then id suggest mirtazapine, amitriptyline or trazodone.
Since you dont have access to meds id say just read up on sleep hygiene and see if any of those tips help.
I would avoid diphenhydramine early on in WD as it can exacerbate the RLS to insane levels.

 

[opiatekrzy]

I just now realized its such a waste of benzos to use when coming down from amphetamines, for one your going to need like triple your normal benzo dose as the speed is stimulating ur CNS so much, and once the benzo wears off u go back to the shitty crash feeling, I learned to suck up the depression and take a trazadone and save my benzos for my normal days..

 

[Twisted_Arm]

Your 2 days in....when I got clean sleep took me a good month or more before I was able to sleep soundly all night after falling asleep fast.

What really worked for me, was meditating. Seriously....lay in bed, conciously start at your toes, and relax every muscle in your body to your eyes, feel them relax one by one, after this slowly breath in "one" out "one" Focus on your breathing going in to your lungs and out, try and clear your mind of everything BUT breathing in "one" out "one". After a few days of practicing you will be falling asleep withing 15 mins. Also never try to sleep if your not tired, if you cant fall asleep within in ten minutes of laying down, get up.

benedryle/tylenol PM....Loperamide (immodium)....IB profen....melatonin....a couple of cocktails....smoke a bowl...

Everyday gets easier...remember that every morning u wake up from a shitty night of trying to sleep.