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(Cannibus/1 hit)Token Black guy, Blacks Out...

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MrAfrika

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Hey Guys, I'm new so bear with me if i'm doing this wrong. Btw this happened when I was 15-16, i'm 22 now but I never knew what caused this and I would like an answer.

This was the 3rd time I ever smoked.... anything. Now let me add that the first time I tried good ol' mary jane was a week before this incident so i'm still a beginner, yet at the time most of my friends where vanilla faced and claimed me as the "Token Black Guy" ALREADY! So they invite me to a back yard bonfire get together, had no idea what that was at the time either, or what people do at them but I wanted to make more friends because I just moved and transfered to that school.

The Arrival
I knock on the door completely sober (Dad dropped me off, Yea I was straight edge kid), the guy that comes to the door is hesitant to open it cause he doesn't recognize me. I hear conversation but cant make out what they are saying, one of my classmates comes to the window and opens the curtains to get a better view of me, then he leaves and all I hear is "O DAMN its that black guy...slow fades out to inaudible." Guy opens the door and music is BLARING LOUD! I walk in to a meet a greet and introductions of beer and liquor shots. So I get comfortable.

Backyard "What is a BONG?"
So I make my way to the backyard, fire is smoldering, at this point im thinking this is gotta be illegal, theres trees everywhere! I slowly find a seat near the fire kicking it get my first introduction to a keg and get a cup full (That I wont finish). Some guy comes into our circle and introduces a bong, with some greenery in it and starts passing it around. Im investigating everyone on how to hit this thing, and when I get it im confused! I take a "hit" and blow a small cloud out. I swear the music stopped and everyone looked at me (Ok im exaggerating but damn it sure seemed like it) and random dude next to me says "NO BRAH! YOU HIT THAT SHIT THEN YOU PASS IT!" I was like ok fine then I suck harder then I've ever.....

Im Blowed! "The Music in my head wont STOP!"
As soon as I exhale I got tunnel vision, I some how managed to pass the bong with no faults and then shit gets real. This constant looping voice came in my head went like "Laaaaa Laaaaaaaa LAAAAAHHHH Laaaa" it was real DEVILISH to and it scared me! I cant really explain it, I felt like I my throat was being strangled close to dieing! I hear faint voices around me everyone seems to be having a good time but me. Im tripping hard. I think what experience could be comparable to a bad LSD trip with fewer visuals. The bong comes my way again and I pass it to the next guy, I get up a go to a room.

The Blackout
In the room I stumbled into, they were playing Xbox and was chilling. Meanwhile Im out of my mind trapped in this endless loop of music and my tunnel of vision was slowly closing in on me. I Blackout. I wake up in a friends bed the next morning.

From what my friend told me while I was blacked out, girls was scared that i took something before I came there and was OD'ing, they said in a car ride I woke up and said random bullshit that made no sense, and I snored extremely loud. At school that following monday everyone was talking about how i was so "FUCKED UP" at that party.

Guys all i did was take a couple of sips of beer and that massive bong hit. To this day I dont know if it was laced or it was just me. Ive tried other drugs after this incident and still to this day that was the scariest worst "trip" i've ever had. Their was alot on my mind that day and I wasnt completely comfortable at that setting, I just concluded this as my own fault and an adverse effect weed. I wonder if anyone else experienced anything similar. Or I was trying to hang with the big dogs and totally pushed a line that was just drawn a week ago. Who knows.

EDIT: I just reread this and it comes off as im saying I was uncomfortable chilling with other races. I dont mean that at all, In fact im more comfortable with other races then my own, but at that period I had ONE friend present and 3 classmates that recognized me. All the other 41 people I had no clue who they were, and I didnt know the neighborhood that well so I couldnt just walk home if shit hit the fan.
 
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Welcome

Hi mate. Don't worry about things sounding racist. Infact your edit was more racist then your post, due to prefering other race ;) There are many racist people around so dont worry. BL isn't like youtube.

To answer your question, or try to. It seems that you smoked really strong weed. You had an anxiety atack from what i can gather. The feeling of impending death. Its scary indeed. I love weed and most drugs and have had no probl;ems, but many have. It is possible it was laced with a freebased drug, but i strongly doubt anyone would waste money giving it away. The first time most smoke weed, is the best and most strongly psycadelic.
I never got high again like my first time. I was tripping and laughing non stop. But i was with a friend. It sounds like you where overwhelmed by being around strangers and couldn't escape to a safe place, hence your conscious state shut down. Just remember that all drugs effect people differently. I'm sure you cant die from weed directly. Very sure. Maybe you ate somthing you failed to mention and had a reaction, or you where just really baked and had an anxiety attack.
Either way you're ok now i hope, and thats the main thing. If you read throught this site, you'll find people do much more insane things then smoke weed around strangers the first time. Me for instance, is a good example of what not to do. ;) Whats disturbing is that they thought you OD'd and didn't call for help. These people are what we call in Australia... ASSHOLES. Saying that, the police in America dont amke things easy by bashing smokers and aresting everyone they can. It makes it hard for harm reduction when fear is in the mix........ Peace mate. Hope you are all good. Oh and it's spelled cannabis. We dont like that word in Oz, because it's used by police...the word i mean :) Peace and hope things go great for you in life!
 
basically the setting was bad, you felt uncomfortable and pot overloaded you with anxiety and crazy schizo type audible halucinations. thats not uncommon, i've had loads of audible halucinations off of skunk, weed and hash. just smoke less
 
Ok I thought it was me lol.

You know whats wierd? I tried LSD (For the first and LAST TIME) when I was 18 or so.... By that time I had a couple of friends but yet EVERYONE knew of me, and at this beach house it was real chill everyone was cool and I was alot more self confident. Still scared of taking any kind of hallucinogenic drug. I was fine! I think its more because I was on a beach next to water with a full moon glowing over the horizon, entranced by the reflection of moonlight and the water thinking about space and what is out there.... Im getting off subject. Anyways reason why I dont do those kind of drugs is they're to many variables involved just to have a good time, 1 minor setback earlier in the day could mess up your trip at night. It works for some people, but im always thinking about something and have a habit of worrying of other peoples problems. Thanks for the reply though! Glad after all these years I got an answer! I had that bottled up in me for a LOONG time. Thanx Bluelight members.
 
Yeah, I know people who tried pot for the first time at a big party and had a similar experience to yours. Pot, many people don't seem to fully realize, is a psychedelic, and the rules of set and setting still apply, albeit to a lesser extent than with LSD or shrooms or whatever. If you're inexperienced with it, it's very likely that you would have a bad reaction if you're someplace you felt uncomfortable (like a party full of people you don't know).

Those auditory hallucinations you noticed were totally normal for a pot high (at least for a sativa). When I smoke sativa/hybrid strains, I hear music/voices/unintelligible noises all the time. When done in a proper setting, the high can be extremely creative and is perfect for creating music. When done in an improper setting, you think you're going insane and pass out from the anxiety, lol.
 
marijuana is one of those drugs that just gets uncomfortable once you start to reach its psychedelic effects. its fun to smoke a bit of pot and kinda just chill and listen to music, but once you take that one toke over the line its like panic mode. i've passed out a few times from weed, one of them was really scary i thought i was having a stroke or something. i smoked mids all summer, got back to college and took a big bong rip of some fire indica. When i looked at the ceiling and started seeing extreme visuals like a decent dose of mushrooms, i realized something was wrong. I somehow made it back to my house on the other side of town, things were real hazy. I kept breathing heavy and audibly, then it got to the point where i literally couldn't move. Like i would try to move my fingers around and i just couldn't. It was like i was retarded or something, i slowly lost control of myself. I couldn't talk, all i could do was moan as i exhaled, and i could barely move myself. I made it over to the bed, thinking i was literally gonna die, laid down and eventually passed out. I missed half of my classes on the first day of the semester, and slept for like 4 hours.

that's why psychedelics are valuable to me i guess, there's a limit to how much insight and beauty a marijuana experience can evoke because once you get to the really interesting part you also get insane paranoia and you might pass out. when i was younger i was all into smoking pot from a psychonaut's mindset, like I was exploring my mind. now i've realized its kind of inferior for that, and i just use it to relax and have fun.

anyway i hope that gives you a little bit of insight into what marijuana is capable/incapable of. if you overdo it, it won't hesitate to take you under for a little while. i think it has a lot to do with time too. like you took one massive bong hit at once. if you spaced that same amount of weed out over a few minutes it probably would've been fine. every pass out experience i've had from weed has been after using a bong or a grav bong or a waterfall or some type of similar chambered smoking apparatus.

welcome to bluelight!
 
Orthostatic Hypotension + powerful high

There are also well documented hypotensive effects with cannabis, and these can compound stressful situations, not always in a lollable manner.

The technical term for what you experienced I think is called Orthostatic Hypotension... and that compounded an incredibly powerful begginner MJ experience.

As a teen I was puffing in an alley when cops rolled around the corner, we were sitting down for a long time puffing, and then immediately jumped to our feet all the sudden when they happened along. I was OK for about 10 seconds, then got really dizzy and had to sit right back down, and almost passed out. Of course, that kinda gave away my situation to the cops.

Of course my teen self was really worried, but I had been in plenty of worse situations with the pigs by that point, and have to chalk the dizzyness up to not only stress but hypotensive properties of MJ.
 
I'm really surprised so many folks have had so many experiences from weed as far as visual and audible hallucinations. I've smoked a shit ton since like age 16... so over a decade and I've never had any experiences like this. Granted I smoke until I'm high and stop. Is it common for anyone to be able to trip if they continue to smoke (beyond comfortably high)? I generally only smoke hydro, as I'm a pot snob, what would any of you recommend as a "tripping dose" ?
 
MoeMadness said:
I generally only smoke hydro, as I'm a pot snob, what would any of you recommend as a "tripping dose" ?
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Man I really couldnt tell you, im confident that not only was it my first experience with a bong, it was my first experience with hydro. Even though it was night I remember seeing the lime green and colorful crystals glimmering in the light of the bonfire. I know VERY few people who smoke weed now that only smoke to the point they are just "high", they keep going like its a pass-out contest... Anyways heres my hypothesis:

"Lock" your self in the bathroom
(When I say lock I mean seal the bathroom of any cracks and of course throw the towel on the floor in front of the door.)

Get a bag of the best weed you can get!
Get the a bag of the best shit you can, preferably the best dro you can get. Yea this is gonna be expensive experiment..

Use your preferred smoking method.
Alot of people say a bong, some say a pipe, I couldnt tell you but what ever gets you the highest faster use that. Its a good idea to prep your green before hand such as bowls already set up and broken down when your ready to load them.

Smoke till you reach that point.
Get some reading material this might take a LOOONG time or it might happen after the 2nd bowl, again this is just my hypothesis. Get as high as you can and reload as fast as you can between bowls... See what happens. I sure as hell though never wanna reach that level again. Good Luck.
 
I use a vaporizer. I thought that was magical, but if I do continue to smoke and smoke... All I do is get really hungry, happy, then sleepy...Usually in that order.
 
MoeMadness said:
I'm really surprised so many folks have had so many experiences from weed as far as visual and audible hallucinations. I've smoked a shit ton since like age 16... so over a decade and I've never had any experiences like this. Granted I smoke until I'm high and stop. Is it common for anyone to be able to trip if they continue to smoke (beyond comfortably high)? I generally only smoke hydro, as I'm a pot snob, what would any of you recommend as a "tripping dose" ?
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When I had a low tolerance to weed, I could get some visuals off of smoking a lot, but once I got a tolerance I found that no matter how much I smoke, I never get visuals.

Oral cannabis however, is a different story. What a heavy dose is depends on your tolerance. But high dose oral weed has been known to make even experienced users "trip."
 
Per say... Brownies? I've never tried anything like this as I'm afraid I'll jack up perfectly good dro in the cooking process.
 
Yep, brownies or firecrackers, cookies, cake, anything you want really. You just cook finely ground weed in your favorite oil (I like coconut) at medium-low heat for 20-30 minutes until the oil is dark green to light brownish. Then just use the pot oil like you'd use any other oil.

Or you could make firecrackers which are easier and use less weed because you can make them one at a time. The cannabis forum has an oral cannabis megathread with a good firecracker recipe as the first post.
 
Sounds like you were young, inexperienced and just had one too many beers before hoofing a bong. Cannabis would've hit you a lot harder back then.
 
The first time I smoked good bud, and got really high, I was tripping my balls off for hours and hours. I was very freaked out, but then I started smoking hardcore for the next 10 years. Love weed! Still do, but I am sober now. Never again.
 
i agree with strange, that sounds like either salvia you smoked or it was weed mixed with some. While im sure auditory hallucinations may be possible especially to a first time smoker; the way you describe it really goes hand in hand with salvia and its notorious effects
 
Sounds like he just smoked some dank-ass bud to me. I was having visuals as well as auditory loops/hallucinations the first time I smoked really good shit (after having only smoked like 2 or 3 times in my life, and not for at least a year before that). I think he just tripped out.
 
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