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hello, its important to know that i don't smoke cigs, however this isnt a post about "smoking cigs so please dont lead it in that direction, everyone here should be an adult, and choose their own path.

Now, recently i decided to try a smoke while everyone was outside having one, and i was baked out of my mind already at this point (smoked some nice tish bowls, a few bong rips and vape hits). And i got MESSED UP, i loved it.
it was the head rush mixing with the weed high that i had going on.

Now, i understand the addiction aspects, but i was just wondering these questions:
1) is it true that putting nicotine through water (ie water pipes or bongs) removes more of the bad chems (not nicotine) from the tobacco?
2) do you always get that intense head rush EVERY time you smoke a cig? even if u smoke a pack a day? or a pack a week, is every big drag that intense?
3) i really only want that head rush, so i used my 30$ bong and made some mole it was nice a) does this do unreversable resin damage to my glass bong? (nothing 420 should clean?) 3) i understand not everyone wants to rip from a mole bong, so i used my cheapo starter bong, so i did a couple mole rips from this, changed the water, and did a just weed rip, still got the head rush, howcome? nicotine in the resin?
4) spiffs are a cig with some weed or some weed with a cig? b) are spliffs better with a tube/cigfilter or a weed paper

thanks alot everyone!
 
GGooDD said:
hello, its important to know that i don't smoke cigs, however this isnt a post about "smoking cigs so please dont lead it in that direction, everyone here should be an adult, and choose their own path.

Now, recently i decided to try a smoke while everyone was outside having one, and i was baked out of my mind already at this point (smoked some nice tish bowls, a few bong rips and vape hits). And i got MESSED UP, i loved it.
it was the head rush mixing with the weed high that i had going on.

Now, i understand the addiction aspects, but i was just wondering these questions:
1) is it true that putting nicotine through water (ie water pipes or bongs) removes more of the bad chems (not nicotine) from the tobacco?
2) do you always get that intense head rush EVERY time you smoke a cig? even if u smoke a pack a day? or a pack a week, is every big drag that intense?
3) i really only want that head rush, so i used my 30$ bong and made some mole it was nice a) does this do unreversable resin damage to my glass bong? (nothing 420 should clean?) 3) i understand not everyone wants to rip from a mole bong, so i used my cheapo starter bong, so i did a couple mole rips from this, changed the water, and did a just weed rip, still got the head rush, howcome? nicotine in the resin?
4) spiffs are a cig with some weed or some weed with a cig? b) are spliffs better with a tube/cigfilter or a weed paper

thanks alot everyone!
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1. Nicotine and tobacco smoke? I'm not sure, really. It seems general consensus that, regarding water-filtered marijuana smoke, the water will remove just as much if not more of the positive psychoactive chemicals than it does of the detrimental ones. Tobacco smoke, though? I honestly haven't a clue if it filters differently than marijuana smoke when pushed through a bit of water.

2. Nope. The intense headrush thing happens in the infancy of a cigarette smokers addiction. The rush gradually and consistently fades over time until the rush you remember really only brings you back up to baseline. I go through 2 packs a week roughly, and I would assume heavier and lighter smokers alike would agree with me on my answer to this question.

3. I've never heard the term "mole" before but I'm going to assume it's just marijuana chopped with tobacco. It can be difficult to permanently stain a bong. Monthly, or even bi-monthly, cleanings should help even heavy smokers keep a relatively sanitary smoking device. If left unkempt, though, yeah, you're going to see quicker staining than you would if you only smoked weed through it. I can't say for sure on the pure weed headrush. Could be legit, could be imagined, could be oxygen deprivation, could be partially combusted tobacco left in the resin or bowlpiece... it's hard to say, really.

4. Terms like this can vary drastically from one area to the next. In my neck of the woods, a 'spliff' is a cigar that's been split, hollowed out and re-rolled using a marijuana/tobacco mixture (also applies to using rolling papers with a weed/tobacco mix, but more often than not we just call those 'white boys.') A blunt's nearly the same thing, only it tends to be pure herbal. Those pre-rolled cigarette tubes are damn handy to have around, but a lot of people feel the filter catches a lot of the stuff that they have every intention of putting into their lungs. Others disagree. The only thing I can say in confidence is that they will get you high, but I have no idea as to it's smoking efficacy compared to a rolled cigarette or cigar without a filter on the end.
 
Hi, I, like you, don't smoke cigarettes, and everytime i smoke a cig i get a light "head rush" ad you said.
BUT I don't think you will get that feeling smoking them on a daily basis. I mean, it's already A very light feeling, and i think it would severely decrease if you start smoking the reguraly.
And I personally think smoking cigs isn't worth the money and the health problema at all, it's like one of the most pointless, addictive and crappy substance on the earth
 
ComfortablyNumb95 said:
And I personally think smoking cigs isn't worth the money and the health problema at all, it's like one of the most pointless, addictive and crappy substance on the earth
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Some of us are more in a hurry to reach the finish line than others.
 
in my area Mole means "a bong rip mixed with some tobacco and some weed" a spliff means a "joint rolled with weed and tobacco"
 
GGooDD said:
Now, i understand the addiction aspects, but i was just wondering these questions:
1) is it true that putting nicotine through water (ie water pipes or bongs) removes more of the bad chems (not nicotine) from the tobacco?
2) do you always get that intense head rush EVERY time you smoke a cig? even if u smoke a pack a day? or a pack a week, is every big drag that intense?
3) i really only want that head rush, so i used my 30$ bong and made some mole it was nice a) does this do unreversable resin damage to my glass bong? (nothing 420 should clean?) 3) i understand not everyone wants to rip from a mole bong, so i used my cheapo starter bong, so i did a couple mole rips from this, changed the water, and did a just weed rip, still got the head rush, howcome? nicotine in the resin?
4) spiffs are a cig with some weed or some weed with a cig? b) are spliffs better with a tube/cigfilter or a weed paper

thanks alot everyone!
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As a long term smoker of both I will answer your questions as best I can although the replies so far are pretty good.

1) No idea but Jibult seems on the right path.
2) No you don't. The only time I "get a rush" might be with my first cigarette of the day. I have smoked for over 20 years & smoke anywhere from 20-30 a day. Nicotine is similar to opiates in that you get a short term high followed by ongoing use so you don't get withdrawals rather than "high".
3) The head rush was not from left over nicotine. You likely perceived it because you felt that way from previous rips? As for cleaning your bong don't worry, I smoke a mix & clean my bong daily with a proper clean once a week or so. I don't understand "resin damage" as I have never had a glass bong discolour over time & most of mine tend to last 3-5 years.
4) A spliff to me has always been a king size paper joint rolled in a tapered cone with a 50/50 mix. I rarely smoke spliffs but I believe the universal understanding is a weed/tobacco mixture.

If you can heed any advice in this thread please don't mix your bud with tobacco. It is a lot more addictive & if you don't already smoke already pointless. You know how when you get a lot more high after a T break? Well that "high" you get from tobacco now is as good as it will ever get & fades quickly.
 
Yeah 50/50 is too high! I should have put 60/40 as I usually have it that way in a spliff & 65/35 for bonging.
 
thank you very much for your response.

i dont smoke cigs, but i just want to know more for when i am (i am a sociable person, and if someone offers me something of anytihng i usually take it ;)
 
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