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assclass said:
yeah got the *rare* one

lol me too. im thinking it is likely A) better starting material B) more refined end product, C) marketing,

either way, its fucking amazing, and i don't mind the price.
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When you say resin, are you referring to the heat/pressure produced stuff or something different? I've got access to the following stuff and have no idea which is better (oil, shatter, wax, budder). Dp all of these pretty much need dab rigs? nails?

You'll probably say it's waste. but when I get frustrated trying to use this stuff, could I just smear it on a rolling paper or roll tiny buds in this and hit them? About 4 years ago, I bought a quartz nail/dome attachment for one of my bongs and only ended up burning myself.

That moonrocks/oil/wac photo you posted - does the waxy concentrate become harder and easier to work with when it gets cold?

thanks

Tom
 
Thomas Davie said:
When you say resin, are you referring to the heat/pressure produced stuff or something different? I've got access to the following stuff and have no idea which is better (oil, shatter, wax, budder). Dp all of these pretty much need dab rigs? nails?

You'll probably say it's waste. but when I get frustrated trying to use this stuff, could I just smear it on a rolling paper or roll tiny buds in this and hit them? About 4 years ago, I bought a quartz nail/dome attachment for one of my bongs and only ended up burning myself.

That moonrocks/oil/wac photo you posted - does the waxy concentrate become harder and easier to work with when it gets cold?

thanks

Tom
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Instead of using trim or bud that has dried and cured, the term 'resin' or 'live resin' refers to the extraction that has been done with freshly frozen plant material (harvest, and instantly freeze it, then process it into BHO, PHO, bubble, etc). The flavour is very strong, and it smells like sniffing a plant in full bloom.

You could use it to slick papers, but dabbing/vaping it is much better in terms of health. I can do 10-12 small dabs that are in total about .25-.5g and that gets me totally stoned all day and night, and I don't cough as much.

With oil, the glassy hard stuff is pretty easy to work with, you can put it in your hands and use your fingers to break it up, and as long as you are quick and dont hold it too long, it doesn't melt and you can break off a lil peice and roll it into a ball. I make a bunch all at once and dabs them throughtout the day. Waxy types of oils and even easier to work with, you can just use your tool and scoop some on. Full melt bubblehash is also very easy to work with.
In that pic, those resin containers are hard (but not brittle hard) at room temp. Very stable.

you might want to see if you can get distillate (dunno if LPs sell it, but Moms and some dispensaries do). it comes in an oral syringe and you can put it on a paper easily or put some on a tool for dabbing.
 
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I'm off a 2 month long tolerance break now! Yay

2 hits got me high af, after 2 more, I was too fried & had to grab a Valium to fix the paranoid anxiety from becoming an attack
 
assclass; the dispensary that I have access to has a section called THC distillates, which they describe as fractionally distilled THC with selected terpenes added back. They call it terpene gravy and it comes iN 1/2 gram syringes. Is this what you're talking about? The price is comparable to what you listed.

They also have something that they call live sap and live rosin. These come in 1/2 and 1 g syringes. Very expensive and equal again to other numbers.

And there is something called Roji 'something or other'.

it's interesting stuff, thanks

Tom
 
They come in syringes? At first I was picturing like a dope needle, but if it's more like a turkey baster kind of deal then that would be an awesome way to eliminate mess. Just squeeze and dab, or whatever you want to do.

Fuckin' brilliant.




That shit is stupid expensive, though, but for those with a high tolerance or serious medical needs it seems perfect. I just know a lot of people (not everybody) that've started fucking with dabs and regular weed just doesn't satisfy them at all anymore, so it's definitely a give-and-take situation.
 
Jibult, here's a photo of the syringes (they are dope syringes or insulin syringes).

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They sell different types of oils, but they all come packed like this. Used to come in little jars with caps. I look at it as an occasional treat - a new years eve kind of thing.

Tom
 
Jibult said:
They come in syringes? At first I was picturing like a dope needle, but if it's more like a turkey baster kind of deal then that would be an awesome way to eliminate mess. Just squeeze and dab, or whatever you want to do.

Fuckin' brilliant.




That shit is stupid expensive, though, but for those with a high tolerance or serious medical needs it seems perfect. I just know a lot of people (not everybody) that've started fucking with dabs and regular weed just doesn't satisfy them at all anymore, so it's definitely a give-and-take situation.
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I personally found the switch to wax to be a huge money saver for me. It costs less per high, and it hasn't got that "arrest me" smell to it 8)

I can still get high off flowers, though I prefer not to as the high is a little messier and usually leaves me more tired.
 
Cream Gravy? said:
I personally found the switch to wax to be a huge money saver for me. It costs less per high, and it hasn't got that "arrest me" smell to it 8)

I can still get high off flowers, though I prefer not to as the high is a little messier and usually leaves me more tired.
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Yeah... I'm pretty much poverty-stricken. I'm lucky to clear 20K a year, and, in my black market experience, wax/oil/shatter will break my fucking bank compared to my flower habits.

That's why I only treat myself when it's cheap, but it's always around. Per gram it's about three to four times more expensive than flowers for me through my connections, and since I never felt comfortable with dab rigs and butane torches and shit I always used a vaporizer for extracts so I admittedly never got the full effects.... but, cost-wise? that shit is ridiculous, in my opinion. It might be worth every dollar, but only if you've got those extra dollars to spend, you know?
 
I'm kinda interested in concentrates from a harm reduction perspective, and I do have a *very crappy* nail/dome/adapter that fits in.a female 14mm joint. But the dome hole is right on top, so I had to 'loom' over the nail to try and take a hit. - usually ending up smearing the dab on the side of the globe or burning myself.

This was ah, 4 years ago. Vape pens have now come a long way. There is a dispensary that sells 25 ml containers of e-juice containing 3000 mg of winterized bho (whatever the hell that is). But they also sell preloaded cartomizers for the cost of about 2 pizzas;

So yeah, I'll probably try this before too long, but ya know I would miss the smell of burning weed in my house......

Tom
 
Winterized BHO is butane honey oil (your typical butane extracted shatter, or whatever consistency the oil is) and the winterization is a form of filtration generally via cold alcohol, to precipitate and filter out the fats and lipids that can be extracted. good oil (free of chlorophyl and contaminants) is mainly THC/CBD and other cannaboids, lipids/fats, and then a small amount of terpines. The lipids/fats are the filler that isn't removed from cheaper oil, dunno about the exact ranges but my experience is 10-30% of your extract can be fats you can filter out of the oil.

tldr winterizing bho uses cold alcohol to filter out fits of hash oil.
 
assclass said:
I get shatter for like 3x the cost of bud. A gram last way longer than 3 grams of bud.
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That's true, definitely lasted FOREVER in my multiple vape pens. I think I had 3-5g of wax (I kept buying more every paycheck for several weeks a while back) last me for about 8 months-- I actually STILL have about 0.75g of it left, lol--, but I was using that to conserve my bud-smoking so I wasn't hitting it every single day... and then one day I got fed up with the connect and just went on a fuck-it kind of situation over the stuff.

Also, when I would get the shit that's meant for vape pen cartridges, like the THC e-juice shit, I would get high. As. FUCK from that shit. Way more than putting wax in a wax pen vape, actually, which is why I still want to try an actual dab even though I can't afford the electronic ones and don't like the idea of smoking with torches.
 
I like the high from modern vape pens, I got the Lynx Hypno-Zero and it does me good. I agree though, the e-juice cartridges are where it's at. Wax is about double the price per gram for me, maybe 2.5x, and it makes it very doable. I bought 2 grams a month ago and I have almost all of it still, after daily use. I need only the tiniest pinch to get a few rips and be toasted for 2 hours.
 
just got a bag of some decent purple. can feel the indica in it. it's pretty heavy.

smoked all weekend long at a festival so it's time for a lil T-break til the weekend.
 
Keep your fingers crossed guys; California votes today (on legalization). My son is still on the fence so we had our last big discussion about it last night. I hope we don't cancel out each others' votes!8) I understand his points (personal limits are too low, taxes way too high, too much bureaucracy, etc). Still, I come down on the side of anti-prohibition no matter how imperfect.

It really has been interesting, though, because our family uses it so differently (purely medical for my husband--so he is worried this bill is going to make it even more financially difficult for us than it already is to get affordable CBD oil for his cancer), purely recreational for my son and a foot in both camps for me. We've all read the whole law (60 pages) several times, debating every point from where the taxes will go to what the consequences will be if you grow more than your allotted 6 plants and I still come down to my same position every time. I've got very good friends here, activists that have been working for legalization for years and just like last time we tried it, they are still split--some voting for and some against. I do believe its going to pass this time and one of the reasons I hope it does is that our state is so huge that in the falling domino metaphor, we will make quite a compelling push in terms of pressure on the feds.
 
ughh i'm too high right now...



faced two fat ass blunts on a lake with another person. fuckin' fried.

brb, gotta take a shit.
 
herbavore - and Maine, Mass, Nevada and Arizona too. Medical proposals on the ballot in ND, Fl and Mo (sorry if I have the states abbreviations wrong. I'm Canadian and thats my permanent excuse for everything). So it's a big day. And I think several large cities have decriminalization proposals on the ballot,

C'mon and show the incompetent Canadian government how legalization is done properly :)

6 plants would be the personal limit if it passes in California? Is that indoors, outdoors or doesn't matter. If I grow I'm allowed 9 plants outdoors or 15 indoors (your growing allotment is based on your prescription in grams/day Does the Californian proposal limit concentrates in any way? Our government is releasing its proposed legislation in a few weeks and they may be limiting the THC content for the recreational market.

Tom
 
^there's also a medical initiative in Arkansas, but it's tied up in some southern fried corruption

As for CA, it would be 6 plants indoor or outdoor. It's only guaranteed indoor though, your municipality can ban outdoor growing. But it's only based on the number of plants, so if you can grow outdoor you can grow 6x 5# plants if you're able.

My predictions are all the legalizations pass, except for maybe NV or AZ. As for medical, I'd say FL and MO will win, AR and ND are up in the air. That's off the little bit of polling and my personal expectations.
 
Arkansas was uber close the years I was living there. 49% voted for. I have faith they'll get it this time.
 
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