Cannabis reducing harmful effects of MDMA use.

[F1n1shed]

Yea i should have mentioned i averaged 3 pills a night, sometimes waiting 5-6 hours before having my last dose

 

[TearItDown]

There should be no rule or regulation of how long you wait to take MDMA in a safe manner for your brain. It is never a safe manner for your brain, yea you'll make it through the experience alive .. it is safe in that manner but speaking of destroying axonal connections it is indeed a dangerous drug. The proof is in the threads where people post on blue light saying they have only rolled 3 times total in their life and feel brain damaged, no other drug does that to people unless speaking of dirty research chemicals. Every synthesis of MDMA varies and sometimes it comes out badly, as well as all the other cuts and combinations people take with it making it more toxic. People on this site should get rid of the mind set of , stick to this plan and you'll be fine. Rather they should say ok i know the dangers of MDMA on my brain so i should take it once in a blue moon with NO time schedule. Meaning you don't mark your calender for the first day of every 3 months as your roll day, rather wait for a random special occasion far away from your last roll and roll then. Imo that's the best approach to using MDMA

Im only bringing this up because back when i was rolling , which was my join date it was 2008. Most of the moderators and posters were basically saying if you stick to one month in between you will be fine. And thats what i did, i had at least a 1 month gap in between and it was working for a little while. But after like 4 or so times i was becoming a mess, distant from my own body and emotions. Yet i still rolled in that manner for like another year. I don't know if it was the daily pot usage with the MDMA that really brought anxiety and DR in me but it happened. Good news is i feel heaps better then i did before

There are little, if any facts to support your claims about "instant brain damage". Stop spreading lies and myths. The cases you mention don't include 100% certain substances being taken. Stop trying to scare the less informed, it only hurts the scene.

 

[F1n1shed]

How am i hurting the scene, if i am saying you should still roll just not on a monthly basis.. I am trying to help people who think they can get away with rolling every month and using cannabis to reverse the damage??.. You seem to be one of those people, what you need me to 'cite' my sources now, fuck off i will not waste my time because i already know the real information. I am not trying to like scare people off but MDMA works similar to methamphetamine, except it primarily targets serotonin where meth primarily targets dopamine. And everyone knows meth is toxic for the brain, how come MDMA gets a pass? Drugs that cause massive release of a neurotransmitter are generally known as more damaging than drugs that just inhibit a neurotransmitter like cocaine.

 

[Renz Envy]

How am i hurting the scene, if i am saying you should still roll just not on a monthly basis.. I am trying to help people who think they can get away with rolling every month and using cannabis to reverse the damage??.. You seem to be one of those people, what you need me to 'cite' my sources now, fuck off i will not waste my time because i already know the real information. I am not trying to like scare people off but MDMA works similar to methamphetamine, except it primarily targets serotonin where meth primarily targets dopamine. And everyone knows meth is toxic for the brain, how come MDMA gets a pass? Drugs that cause massive release of a neurotransmitter are generally known as more damaging than drugs that just inhibit a neurotransmitter like cocaine.

I doubt cannabis is going to cause a significant reverse in damage; as far as I'm concerned, supplementing piracetam and eating plenty of protein are the main things people suggest for MDMA users.

Meth also stimulates quite a bit of serotonin despite being mostly a dopamine releaser

 

[TearItDown]

How am i hurting the scene, if i am saying you should still roll just not on a monthly basis.. I am trying to help people who think they can get away with rolling every month and using cannabis to reverse the damage??.. You seem to be one of those people, what you need me to 'cite' my sources now, fuck off i will not waste my time because i already know the real information. I am not trying to like scare people off but MDMA works similar to methamphetamine, except it primarily targets serotonin where meth primarily targets dopamine. And everyone knows meth is toxic for the brain, how come MDMA gets a pass? Drugs that cause massive release of a neurotransmitter are generally known as more damaging than drugs that just inhibit a neurotransmitter like cocaine.

Hahaha, you're silly. I roll every 3 months and I encourage everyone to do the same. Once again, much of what you said is untrue. There are no facts to support much of your assumptions. MDMA and meth are very different. MDMA has been shown not to be very neurotoxic. You would need a significant amount to reach the LD50, much less overdose. You tell people they shouldn't have a set time limit, rather they should choose a time away from their last roll. How vague is that? Is it 2 months? 1.5? Moreover, there are little studies (if any) that supports your claim that by rolling you will immediately destroy the neurotransmitters in your brain. I think it's humorous and pathetic that you use a clear freudian projection after stating that you yourself had problems with rolling once a month. Get over yourself dude. And if you want to bring knowledge, support it with facts and data, or get the fuck out.

 

[First Bad Comedown]

^ Hey buddy, calm down.

It sure sounds like you have an agenda.
There is plenty of data to throw around, if you care to read it.
Unfortunately there is no clear, concise, definitive data that illustrates at WHAT dose of MDMA humans experience deterioration of higher serotonin neurons.

Believe me, researchers have been trying to nail that down for a LONG time.
Suffice it to say that the mountain of animal data STRONGLY suggests that anything above the most modest use by humans is causing SOME lasting damage to the higher brain.

Ironically, even those with considerable damage tend to escape with mild cognitive deficits.
That does not mean that escaped without significant damage.

I propose that the real loss from damage to prefrontal serotonin is emotion, not intelligence.
Something much more difficult to test for...