Cannabis Grows in Australia

[AyahuascaSeeker13]

Long time I haven't been on here. Been busy ya know.

Anyhow... Felt something needed to be said about the laws regarding cannabis usage/cultivation/trials in Australia.

With so many god damn legal high shops popping up online and on the streets, it's angers me that the government (in particular the fkn Liberals in Victoria), don't start to look at the current legal status of cannabis. Would they really preffer people to be smoking rubbish herbs mixed with RCs rather than medical cannabis?... Now I know JWH etc... is illegal, but these snakes are finding loopholes in they system and keep modifying there blends to fall just under the analogue radar.

I wonder if anyone in Canberra has sat down and studied the effects of RCs compared to cannabis? I think not. I personally have smoked marijuana for it's therapeutic effects for many years, and have seen quality fall from half decent to absolute rubbish. A lot of my associates have taken to smoking these herbal highs instead of the natural alternative! TIMES ARE NOT SO GREAT!

The other problem with Australia is the growers either don't care or don't know what they are growing. All I am ever told that it it "The Bomb" or some similar shit. It never is. On the odd occasion dealers make some rubbish up on strains and say it's either "red devil" or "northern lights", which again it never is. I guess to the average one a week or so smoker, this is fine, but I have had more than enough of this shit.

After a lovely trip to Amsterdam I came back with some awesome seeds from Dutch Passion seed bank, got them set up in my hydro room, and the babies are flourishing! Harvest will be done very soon.

Sorry, I have drifted into about 4 different topics, here's my point.

It's highly illegal to cultivate cannabis in Australia and many other parts of the world, why? The majority grow for profit, whereas the remainder grow for personal use to they can relax, heal or whatever they use it for at the end of a hard day. Why are the cultivators (for personal use), called criminals when all they are doing is growing a plant which has been around since biblical days, and using it in a way where it doesn't effect anybody around them!?!? Why the lengthy jail terms for 3 or so plants? Nothing makes sense!

I wish more people in this country had great knowledge of cannabis and demanded excellent product from their suppliers, instead of just accepting the below average brown rock like nuggets so many dealers are handing out these days. Perhaps if the smokers cared enough, and stopped buying and grew their own (for personal use, DON'T DEAL, I am against that), it would force the cultivators to pull up all their rubbish and grow proper cannabis!

How do we change the laws. I guess we can't. Perhaps when prop 19 is passed in CA, Australia's ears will prick up and they could begin to see the benefits associated with medical marijuana. All we can do is hope on this I guess. The other way, I think that when all the people who are smoking these herbal blends, begin developing cancer, tumors, and god knows what else, the government will put the kybosh on the whole legal high trade (legal smokes), and perhaps again, consider allowing 1 or two plants per household to be legal.

Who knows, I am just ranting, and airing some things I needed to get out there. I am happy to answer any questions pertaining to hydro grows, strains, medical usage, whatever. I feel that the knowledge I have on this topic, I could help a lot of people, and begin to change the way cannabis use is looked at in Australia.

Thanks for reading, and sorry about going off on a hundred different tangents! LOL

 

[Mr Blonde]

The analogue laws here are so incredibly comprehensive and vague that I doubt any of the 'legal' highs would actually be safe from prosecution if the authorities really wanted to crack down.

A lot of the issues you raise are due to cannabis being illegal; however until that changes it will be illicit to grow and use cannabis and there won't be regulation of the cannabis scene.

 

[AyahuascaSeeker13]

Yeah, I realise this, my MAIN point is really:

WHY don't the government in Australia look at his plant, and begin a study to find how it can benefit so many Australians, country wide...

I don't know, it's just something that is frustrating the hell out of me!

 

[Mr Blonde]

I know. It is stupid that they won't do proper investigations into cannabis and every other drug. While there is still a large part of the public against drugs, and while it is a good populist move for the government to appear tough on drugs, things won't go very far.

 

[Divine Moments]

Time

 

[Mr Blonde]

^ Great song.

 

[8L4YN3]

Long time I haven't been on here. Been busy ya know.

Anyhow... Felt something needed to be said about the laws regarding cannabis usage/cultivation/trials in Australia.

With so many god damn legal high shops popping up online and on the streets, it's angers me that the government (in particular the fkn Liberals in Victoria), don't start to look at the current legal status of cannabis. Would they really preffer people to be smoking rubbish herbs mixed with RCs rather than medical cannabis?... Now I know JWH etc... is illegal, but these snakes are finding loopholes in they system and keep modifying there blends to fall just under the analogue radar.

I wonder if anyone in Canberra has sat down and studied the effects of RCs compared to cannabis? I think not. I personally have smoked marijuana for it's therapeutic effects for many years, and have seen quality fall from half decent to absolute rubbish. A lot of my associates have taken to smoking these herbal highs instead of the natural alternative! TIMES ARE NOT SO GREAT!

The other problem with Australia is the growers either don't care or don't know what they are growing. All I am ever told that it it "The Bomb" or some similar shit. It never is. On the odd occasion dealers make some rubbish up on strains and say it's either "red devil" or "northern lights", which again it never is. I guess to the average one a week or so smoker, this is fine, but I have had more than enough of this shit.

After a lovely trip to Amsterdam I came back with some awesome seeds from Dutch Passion seed bank, got them set up in my hydro room, and the babies are flourishing! Harvest will be done very soon.

Sorry, I have drifted into about 4 different topics, here's my point.

It's highly illegal to cultivate cannabis in Australia and many other parts of the world, why? The majority grow for profit, whereas the remainder grow for personal use to they can relax, heal or whatever they use it for at the end of a hard day. Why are the cultivators (for personal use), called criminals when all they are doing is growing a plant which has been around since biblical days, and using it in a way where it doesn't effect anybody around them!?!? Why the lengthy jail terms for 3 or so plants? Nothing makes sense!

I wish more people in this country had great knowledge of cannabis and demanded excellent product from their suppliers, instead of just accepting the below average brown rock like nuggets so many dealers are handing out these days. Perhaps if the smokers cared enough, and stopped buying and grew their own (for personal use, DON'T DEAL, I am against that), it would force the cultivators to pull up all their rubbish and grow proper cannabis!

How do we change the laws. I guess we can't. Perhaps when prop 19 is passed in CA, Australia's ears will prick up and they could begin to see the benefits associated with medical marijuana. All we can do is hope on this I guess. The other way, I think that when all the people who are smoking these herbal blends, begin developing cancer, tumors, and god knows what else, the government will put the kybosh on the whole legal high trade (legal smokes), and perhaps again, consider allowing 1 or two plants per household to be legal.

Who knows, I am just ranting, and airing some things I needed to get out there. I am happy to answer any questions pertaining to hydro grows, strains, medical usage, whatever. I feel that the knowledge I have on this topic, I could help a lot of people, and begin to change the way cannabis use is looked at in Australia.

Thanks for reading, and sorry about going off on a hundred different tangents! LOL

Don't know what you mean by the overall quality dropping from half decent to absolute rubbish? Maybe in your immediate circle of contacts. For me and alot of people i know weed is just maybe more expensive than it used to be. Can still get top notch weed very easily from multiple separate sources.

Theres still tonnes of great bud around, seems there's been abit of a drop in quality and availability of bud melbourne.... Luckily adelaide is still tickin though! I think it's a fair deal you bloody melbournians got all the lush harry and we have fuck all...Well far from fuck all but you get the picture.

But seems like you're more having a whinge about your own personal lack of success finding some good bud.. What are you talking about man implying that growers arent growing proper cannabis anymore? This is complete bullshit, maybe that's all you can find, but personally i dont buy "brown rock-like nuggets". And your lack of good bud connections most definitely has nothing to do with the synthetic cannabinoids lol.. Also why are you jumping to the conclusion they're carcenogenic? Just because something is made in a lab dosn't mean it's some default toxic compound. Cannabinoids don't exactly have a reputation for being toxic compounds so if i was to lean towards one or the other i'd probably guess that majority of these synthed cannabinoids are about as toxic as natural occuring cannabinoids.

Also how can you be against dealing? Unless you grow every gram of weed you smoke i guess but it's not exactly realistic for most smokers to grow their own bud.

So yeah i dont really get your point at all? Like this rant is full of so much bullshit its funny. "Would they really preffer people to be smoking rubbish herbs mixed with RCs rather than medical cannabis?..." Man i don't even know ONE person who has smoked herbs mixed with rc's instead of weed. What do these rc's even have to do with the fucking weed situation? "Now I know JWH etc... is illegal, but these snakes are finding loopholes in they system and keep modifying there blends to fall just under the analogue radar." Wtf man? How can they keep modifying their blends? How can the change it in anyway to make it "just fall under the analogue radar". That makes no sense, if it contains an analogue of a known cannabinoid it's illegal, no way around it, what could they possibly alter to slip through one of these "loopholes".

Basically what i've gathered from your post is that because of harsh government laws quality and availability have dropped so much that now these guys that sell rc cannabinoids are capitalizing on stoners in need of a high so people are now switching to the rc's....Stupidest fucking post i've read in a while, you have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[8L4YN3]

Yeah, I realise this, my MAIN point is really:

WHY don't the government in Australia look at his plant, and begin a study to find how it can benefit so many Australians, country wide...

I don't know, it's just something that is frustrating the hell out of me!

Man how old are you? The government don't operate for our best interests, neither do big pharma companies, that is why. This plus 70 odd years of brainwashing the general public into believing this plant is something bad, politics, also dosn't help the cause.

Big Pharma companies only care about how cost effective a drug is to get from start to follow approved and on the shelf. They dont care how much a drug can help people, only about the $$$.

And of course the average person is a fucking moron who can't think critically or think for themselves so they it hard to dettach from previously leant ideas. ie: cannabis is bad.

 

[poledriver]

Yeah i think all these topics have been gone over and over quite a few times. I know what your saying, but rants on the net wont do jack. Maybe we will see change someday, maybe we wont.

 

[Sameria]

If you're so angry with the situation get out there and try to make it change. Won't get anywhere by preaching to the choir

 

[Busty St Clare]

There is one way to circumvent the current cannabis laws. Don't get caught.

 

[fransan]

Man how old are you? The government don't operate for our best interests, neither do big pharma companies, that is why. This plus 70 odd years of brainwashing the general public into believing this plant is something bad, politics, also dosn't help the cause.

Big Pharma companies only care about how cost effective a drug is to get from start to follow approved and on the shelf. They dont care how much a drug can help people, only about the $$$.

And of course the average person is a fucking moron who can't think critically or think for themselves so they it hard to dettach from previously leant ideas. ie: cannabis is bad.

Yes SIR! you are absolutely right; ignorance IS the biggest problem by far; as long as people are unknowingly dumb; and completely unaware of these things nothing big is gona happen; only after the shit is legal in Cali are we gona then start seeing other places legalize and all; it might be a process of 5+ years or so but i have hope

 

[TripppAR]

Ha ha ha..

*Insert TripppAR government/ weed rant here.*


I'm just too fucking stoned on prime, crystal coated nugs... hehe!

 

[jspun]

A Southern Cross woman in her mid-30s is facing drug charges after her home was searched by police late last week.

Police allegedly found half an ounce of marijuana, several smoking implements and utensils at the woman's home.

Police were acting on information from the public suggesting drugs were being used at the property.

Are you shitting me, the cops in western Oz don't have anything better to do with their time? I'm in Hawaii on vacation. They are actually advertising on the radio and were to go to get a medical evaluation. Apparently 3 dispesaries on the Big Island of Hawaii alone and more likely more in the state. This servers 150,000 people. On this Island is Puna, the Burgundy of the outdoor Cannabis world.

I thought western Aus was tolerant- kinda analogous to California in the USA. I know there is a town on one of the East Coast states that has a Cannabis festival every year.

In California, in the increasingly fascist USA, an Oz or less has been reduced from a misdemeanor (with $100.00 fine max). Arnold, our former governor signed into law a bill that makes simple possession an infraction (like a trafick ticket.) Our prop 19 didn't pass- to legalize it. Among its biggest opponents were law enforcement of course but suprisingly cannabis growers supplying dispensaries- they didn't like the idea of paying taxes. Among the biggest proponents were ex- cops, ex- judges, an ex surgeon general of the USA- but the strong prison guards union had it killed in the 9th hour- see were this is going.

But get caught with it in neighboring Nevada and you probably will go to jail despite its laisssez- faire attitude, cannabis is taboo. It is counter to the wild west imagine. Despite that Arizona which used to have draconian pot laws legalized medical cannabis. Get caught with simple possession in Florida (were you can easily get Rxs from pain clinics), texas, Alabama, and a few other states and your day will get ruined. Of the territories, in part, because of the ice problem, were buds were tolerated through the 80s, I've read that simple possession can get you a 2 year jail term.

In Oz were are the Tolerant states or territories and the intolerant ones? How about Christmas Island?

Is drug prohibition in general becoming ramped up or lossened up in favor of harm reduction/ other alternatives, or does it just depend?

 

[belarki]

^ I've just moved your post over here jspun as the Drug Bust thread is for posting links to and quotes from news articles only. It's more of a reference thread than a discussion thread.

 

[baronweed]

I have to say in my opinion weed has got stronger, so strong in fact I have cut my 6 plus years smoking career short in serious consideration of my mental health due to over potent sizzy wizzy chrondidley.

 

[Mr. Squiggle!]

I hate Cannabis, partly in due to my brother. He's co-dependent on it, the other dependency is his girlfriend.

Go nuts. But if you get caught (slim chance), you can kiss goodbye any future endeavours overseas.

 

[Jakeperson]

Same with nearly any other drug offenses ^^

You're preaching to the converted..

Weed here is just fine, the weed quality here is just fine..

 

[arjans haze]

He cant be codependent to cannabis. He may have a codependent relationship with his girlfriend.

Ive personally seen cannabis used to treat parkinsons and it was a godsend for the patient. The fact I had to break the law buying it to treat my mums nausia from chemo is a joke. To the OP look into joining norml or contacting the hemp embassy and explore how you can help fight prohibition

 

[misteee]

ive seen so many of these threads throughout this site and various others. but ive never ever been able to find any information on the conviction/expiation on hydroponically cultivated cannabis?? ive found the same thing, out door grown mary jane will fetch fines of around 250-500 dollars, well whats hydro's.....
btw, this is south australia im talking about, wouldnt mind knowing any info on penalty's you guys have heard or can reference.
btw, i understand me differ if previous durgs charges, cut electricity or large ammounts are found the expiation out come is = your a fuckin gona!