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Opioids Cannabis for opiate withdrawal

you could give 1 of the pure cannabinoids a try i know from experience that in heavy use they exhibit opiate type affects which could help ease things for you hopefully they would not be to close to that they rekindle any need to use again :)
 
it's been a huge help several times.
it doesn't really help me w/appetite.
mostly it helps w/mood lift and insomnia.
it doesn't allow me to sleep..but it allows me to not
be bothered so much by no sleep.
the only thing i notice it intensifies are the cold chills..
so i throw on a sweater and get back to it. ;)
 
What type or types is that include?

any of them in great use will do this but best bet at the minute is mam2201 its the same price as am2201 but its like the next step up and will last twice as long as the others but beware of them all read the synthetic cannabinoid thread before diving in as they are not any where as forgiving as you may think and have caused people my self included problems
 
While cannabis use may be one of the THE MOST helpful thing for opiate withdrawals that does not mean it is the only solution as well as the best for everyone.

Also cannabis and opiates are VERY similar in function leading to the similarities in effect, which if you follow the link below you will see what I mean

http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/addiction/drugs/mouse.html

While cannabis in general is a very appropriate medication it may not be the right choice for everyone as well is probably not the best choice for everyone and probably in most cases required something to supplement it (such as clonidine) so it does not become another dependency that may be difficult to support not necessarily due to self control and financial situation, but social stigma against this particular drug that still plagues our country quite a bit making the market for cannabis unstable and dangerous to rely on for medicinal quality weed to use essentially around the clock when needed.

Edit: I also HIGHLY recommend avoiding synthetic cannabanoids as many people after using them have not been able to continue using it or return to using cannabis due to it overloading the receptors no matter the dose. I think this was due to some of them having irreversible binding effects, but I am not positive. IMO it is better to stay not only with natural compounds, but for compounds that create physical dependencies using the ones that do not bind permanently as well as a short amount of time vs over 12 hours. I have come to this conclusion after comparing levorphanol/tramadol and the dependencies they create to natural and semi-synthetic opiates derived from poppy alkaloids.

Edit 2: I am curious about the URB series though because they do not directly act upon the receptors. I have seen this one being vended although it possibly is as dangerous as the other synth cannabinoids if not more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/URB597
 
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I fucking hate how tired Clonodine makes me but it is used for pain as well my dr said as well as my opiate addititon which started with chronic nerve pain...While pot just makes me EAT i aam 104lbs soaking wet and I think between the five days being ripped helped my weight gain but does make the Clonodine exhaustion to the next level...So I can understand the issues people have I have been on enough drugs to get off of them this is the only one...and I wanna state I HATED pot cause of dissassosiated states that can occur...but my boyfriend and my best bud have been tolerant of newbie asspect of that I have been smoking pretty much every day since Nov 11...So I have been on enough legal anti nausea meds and the side effects seems worse than pot for myself anyone else? I hate reglan and compazine...they plus me =nut case.
Brit
 
I fucking hate how tired Clonodine makes me but it is used for pain as well my dr said as well as my opiate addititon which started with chronic nerve pain...While pot just makes me EAT i aam 104lbs soaking wet and I think between the five days being ripped helped my weight gain but does make the Clonodine exhaustion to the next level...So I can understand the issues people have I have been on enough drugs to get off of them this is the only one...and I wanna state I HATED pot cause of dissassosiated states that can occur...but my boyfriend and my best bud have been tolerant of newbie asspect of that I have been smoking pretty much every day since Nov 11...So I have been on enough legal anti nausea meds and the side effects seems worse than pot for myself anyone else? I hate reglan and compazine...they plus me =nut case.
Brit
That's odd considering compazine is an anti-psychotic.

I don't understand why you experience negative dissociative states that you "hate" but continue to smoke because your boyfriend and best friend do? Am I understanding that correctly?
 
IME, cannabis can be a great source of relief in both opiate and benzo withdrawal - if you like cannabis in the first place. BUT, it depends on the strain: old-fashioned, non-hydro herb like Thai was wonderful, coming off of pharm opiates, and good, CBD-filled, calming hash was better still. Sadly, they only showed up now and again - there's so much damn skunk and hydro around that hash (I'm in Europe, it used to be more common than weed) has become harder to find. The high-grade skunk and name-brand strains of herb aren't as useful - they can increase anxiety drastically and even trigger panic attacks in opiate and benzo W/D. Also, they're tough on the wallet.

As to synth 'noids in blends: YMMV, but I found the JWH-blends (the better ones, anyway), a decent substitute for schwag or even mids. Those got banned here, and moving to a city where I can get anything BUT cannabis, I've occasionally succumbed to temptation and used AM-series blends while tapering off of benzos and chipping painkillers (I used daily for about 8 months, but have been able to have the odd indulgence since kicking without falling back into opiate addiction...yet. But as I type this I'm thinking it's time to have one last indulgence tomorrow, when I have the day off and the house to myself...then quit for at least a few weeks). Although the AM blends are skunky and slap your third neural circuit like a special delivery from William S. B in Sheol, they've been more useful,for me, than high-THC strains of hydro in alleviating benzo w/d anxiety. Problem is, as noted by other posters, the high's very short-lived - you're pretty much back to baseline after half an hour. Still, used judiciously, I find a few joints after my 'scripted nightime taper dose can help with sleep. More often, though, I buy three grams and chainsmoke till it's gone, with tolerance rapidly diminishing its efficacy and a mild rebound depression the next day. It's the junk food of cannabis substitutes - a pipe of good hash would be the fillet mignon of w/d assistance, with perfect fries and a side-order of well-seasoned spinach. The AM-blend's are more like a whopper, at best: some of them as unsatisfying and sickly as a Big Mac. Damn, I miss the US...and Wendy's.

And Lortabs.

Irony of ironies: I'm popping massive doses of DHC and morphine once or twice a week, just for a little comfort round the rough edges of the taper, and I wouldn't be doing it - or at least, nowhere near as often - if I had access to cheap Thai weed or good North African hash (Pollen or blonde especially). But in my current location, I'm short on contacts, pharms/H/rock/X/skunk are all that's on offer, and no-one can hook me up for some straightforward, old school herb or solid. Pricey skunk wouldn't be too hard to find, but isn't what I need at all. It's like craving a beer when all you can get is bathtub absinthe. And the hydro shit costs so much that it's shocking. I'd rather have a dime bag of NYC or SF schwag than an 8th of skunk-headfuck, most of all in benzo withdrawal. Ah, for the old days, before skunk bumped up prices and left half my generation paranoid. But then, THEY ARE out to get us...

Still, skunk with a short course of benzos to keep things calm can do the job at a pinch, making physical opiate w/ds much easier...but the operative words here are 'short course'. I wish I'd tapered off the benzos before kicking the morphine/fent/oxy et cetera: they somehow didn't sink their teeth into me that deep. The benzos, however, bit hard and are a long taper away from letting go. Oh, for just one of the ten-gram blocks of Moroccan squidgy black I used to get for half the price of a quarter of name brand skunk...t'ain't fair.
 
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Unfortunately, I don't care for pot much. I've always reacted poorly to it; triggers really bad panic attacks and anxiety in me, almost every time I've smoked (which, despite the negatives, was still quite a bit). I'd quite simply be too scared to try it in WD, with the risk of making an already rock bottom situation even worse.

My WD herb is Kratom. It truly works miracles. Especially if I pony up for some UEI which obliterates the WD and downright gets me off.
 
I find high-quality (all I really try to smoke nowadays that I have a good hookup) weed to most definetly help with the mental aspect of withdrawal for 30-60 minutes. I find myself actually forgetting, if only for a few moments that I am in withdrawal and feel like shit.

So yes it helps, for me. For some it may not, like most things.
 
Compazine is also used an antiemetic check it out...I smoke and can deal with the side effects of pot if I get parinoid or what not but when comes to tall the "legal" drugs to get off opis I think the side effects are way worse for me...
 
...I've been going through it now for a few days......I was doing usually 2 but sometimes 4 40mg oxycontin a day...I put myself of a rapid taper each day dropping from 100mg to 60mg to 45 to 30 to 20 and today 10mg.
I had to do it quick ,cause im heading to asia for a month in about 10 days....I was hesitant to bring any pills with me ,and don't wanna start getting sick,40hrs in ,on layover in China...But the final destination,is flooded with opis...

Cannabis def helps...But anything other than a top shelf ,balanced strain .Would prob make me feel like shit.Blue Dream seems to work really well.But i like to be functional,so ill just do 1 small bong hit.Using it like a medicine,and not getting "ripped out of the frame".And and 1/2's of 1/4 of xanax bar at the end of the day...The legs!!!! Im feelin it ...But gotta eat vitamins,,try to exercise...The worst of this shit will be over..in a few more days.....cheers!!!
 
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Sorry for the repost.
I think only CBD-rich strain helps, or ? Anybody took a CBD-rich strain from CBD-Crew for Opiate withdrawal (5% THC 5% CBD) ?

THC can increase anxiety and paranoia (if you have a opiate withdrawal).
CBD reduce anxiety and paranoia.

So it will be better if a dude with opiate withdrawal take a CBD-rich strain ?
5% THC and 5% CBD is good for a opiate withdrawal ? Not to much THC but much CBD. If a dude with opiate withdrawal take few hits from a CBD-rich strain and every 3 hours + one week the dude won against the acute opiate withdrawal ? And little bit Kratom on bedtime (if needed)

Sorry for my english.
 
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I was on probation so I switched to smoking noids... I wouldnt recommend this to anyway, but my point is, that moreso than weed, the synthetic cannbinioids do help provide a little releif.

I alsol noticed that noids help me fall asleep better coming down off coke than normal weed which doesnt do anything for me sleep wise if im on a coke binge.
 
I am on day two of smoking pot. I have never enjoyed smoking pot. I did some research and thought I would give it a try. I was on 2 15mg of vicodine a day and then through an over zealous doctor was on suboxen for 2 years. Getting off that was hell and I relapsed. Never been able to go more than 10 hours without a pill of any sort (subutex, suboxen or vicodine). Biggest thing the strain I am smoking has done for me is give me an apatite (blue dream). Seems to be helping with depression too.
 
I am trying to quit from 400 - 100 mg tapentadol and today is the first day without it.
Stomach cramps, leg pain, hip pain, pain all over and its terrible, stomach keeps growling like its demanding for more.

THC has helped me last night, but not sure how it would help me tonight.
 
For me it helps the restless legs you might get and the tossing and turning in bed at night but I only for 20 minutes tops which sucks ass do you gotta keep smoking my advice is go to your doctor and try to get clonazepam or clonadine it helped me out alot when I was coming off oxy or go to your local methadone clinic but that would be last resort because that's just replacing a problem with a potential other
 
While an old post a good one to keep up and respond to. Today I'm starting to wd from both long term and short Oxy and having done it before as all know it's no fun...not as bad as some wd's but still no fun. The key to me using marijuana is to keep it to Indica and never use sativa. What I want and need is a body high from pot to calm the gut, stop the heebie-jeebie's, and get some sleep. Nowadays everyone is into Indica at nuclear strengths for no reason I can think of; but common sense tells you how that will exacerbate wd's and the wise stay away from it. You want calm during wd's, not hyper and paranoia...unless you want to punish yourself. I do not. Indica really helps me.
Peace and best wishes to all. It ain't easy but can be done.
 
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