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Opioids Can you just eat a shit ton of poppy seeds instead of making the tea??

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Chloralhydro

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So my question is pretty simple. Can you just eat the poppy seeds instead of making a tea with them? And use the same dosage that you would've used for the tea, or should you use a smaller dose? Does making the tea do something to draw out the opiates that wouldn't occur if you just chewed them up and ate them?
 
sohrah said:
You can try nothing in them that may cause you to die?
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They contain morphine, codeine and other opiate alkaloids?? at least when prepared in a tea, so I'm assuming you'd be able to still absorb these opiates through just eating seeds
 
idk, eating that many tiny seeds could cause issues. Someone I know needed surgery because of a seed getting lodged somewhere in him (he's short and very fat tho)

And you'll get a bunch of alkaloids that wouldn't be in the poppy tea if made correctly
 
When I first got some unwashed seed, I would take smaller doses whole. A heaping teaspoon along with a Hydrocodone, maybe in the later (opioid) stages of Tramadol, was a nice addition. So, it ain't poison. However, washing the seeds and drinking that is supposed to greatly reduce Thebaine and other undesireable alkaloids.

I've never taken a "shit ton" straight. I have a low tolerance and get a nice little buzz on a couple/few heaping tablespoons and I have never taken even that much straight.

thebaine is chemically similar to both morphine and codeine, but has stimulatory rather than depressant effects. At high doses, it causes convulsions similar to strychnine poisoning

en.wikipedia.org

Thebaine - Wikipedia

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brokedownpalace10 said:
However, washing the seeds and drinking that is supposed to greatly reduce Thebaine and other undesireable alkaloids.

thebaine is chemically similar to both morphine and codeine, but has stimulatory rather than depressant effects. At high doses, it causes convulsions similar to strychnine poisoning
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Even a quick shake in cold water can bring pretty much every opioid alkaloid out. A bunch of people ended up in hospital recently from thebaine poisoning after drinking poppy seed tea.

On topic; even 100g of seeds, consuming that many poppy seeds would be an unpleasant experience IMO. Far more unpleasant than consuming a tea.
 
Kaden_Nite said:
Even a quick shake in cold water can bring pretty much every opioid alkaloid out. A bunch of people ended up in hospital recently from thebaine poisoning after drinking poppy seed tea.

On topic; even 100g of seeds, consuming that many poppy seeds would be an unpleasant experience IMO. Far more unpleasant than consuming a tea.
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Interesting. They even use Thebaine as a marker to determine seed use as opposed to street narcotics.

Two questions.

Doesn't cold water extraction reduce Thebaine to an extent? Anecdotally here on Bluelight it is preferable.

What about the oils and other stuff in the seeds? Could they cause nausea since you would get more of them?


I'm purty good at toss and wash. With the seeds I get and my nonexistant tolerance I am good with a couple/few tablespoons. Seeds go down easy and tossing that down would be easier than doing a wash for me (and likely work better).

So, is there any reason to not just eat the seeds as the OP asked? Other than the difficulty of the process.
 
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Las Veghost grower said:
That just sounds disgusting….just soak them in water, better yet just get poppy pods…
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Kinda hesitant to order/source pods as from what I understand it's a lot more questionable in terms of legality.
However, I will look into it. I made a 200G Poppy seed tea last night and it was obviously way too low of a dose, although there was a noticeable, yet VERY SUBTLE sort of relaxation like you'd get from a tiny amount of morphine/codeine, but overall I felt nothing at all. The seeds were pretty dirty looking in a good way like they weren't just black, there was a lot of coating and specks and stuff so I think they have a decent potential. Kinda worked out that it didn't work because I have a drug test in 8 days.

After my drug test, I'm gonna try again with around 1.25 pound. If this doesn't work at all then I'll probably not try the seeds again and I'll try to do the pods at some point in the future.
 
Chloralhydro said:
Kinda hesitant to order/source pods as from what I understand it's a lot more questionable in terms of legality.
However, I will look into it. I made a 200G Poppy seed tea last night and it was obviously way too low of a dose, although there was a noticeable, yet VERY SUBTLE sort of relaxation like you'd get from a tiny amount of morphine/codeine, but overall I felt nothing at all. The seeds were pretty dirty looking in a good way like they weren't just black, there was a lot of coating and specks and stuff so I think they have a decent potential. Kinda worked out that it didn't work because I have a drug test in 8 days.

After my drug test, I'm gonna try again with around 1.25 pound. If this doesn't work at all then I'll probably not try the seeds again and I'll try to do the pods at some point in the future.
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Where are you getting your seeds? There are places online which sell seeds where you can see bits of the pod all through them.
 
brokedownpalace10 said:
Where are you getting your seeds? There are places online which sell seeds where you can see bits of the pod all through them.
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A high end grocery store that has 2oz bags of organic unwashed seeds. Really just trying them out because of convenience.
I can't really do stuff like that often cause I'm on probation so usually I just stick to kratom or tianeptine sodium.
 
Las Veghost grower said:
Seeds are a complete waist of time and money imo
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idk, while I've only had one successful time with them, it seems a lot of other people have had significant success. There are multiple case studies detailing pretty heavy seed tea addiction. One guy who was consuming like 3kg worth of seeds a day allowed a sample of his tea to analyzed and from it they concluded that he was ingesting approximately 280mg morphine per day PLUS however much codeine.
 
Chloralhydro said:
idk, while I've only had one successful time with them, it seems a lot of other people have had significant success. There are multiple case studies detailing pretty heavy seed tea addiction. One guy who was consuming like 3kg worth of seeds a day allowed a sample of his tea to analyzed and from it they concluded that he was ingesting approximately 280mg morphine per day PLUS however much codeine.
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I don’t get why anyone would fuck with seeds when you can get pods, and the amount of active Ingredient is like 10x cheaper buying pods, plus seeds are wildly inconsistent, more so than pods for sure
 
Las Veghost grower said:
I don’t get why anyone would fuck with seeds when you can get pods, and the amount of active Ingredient is like 10x cheaper buying pods, plus seeds are wildly inconsistent, more so than pods for sure
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what's the ideal type of pod that is legal? Or do all of them work pretty well?
 
Las Veghost grower said:
You want papavar somniferum, they are generally sold as non consumable decorations ;)
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Are you in the U.S. ? Cause I can't really find anything online that looks very trustworthy at all lol. Just a bunch of clearly spam sites that are all using the same pictures of pods for pretty high prices
 
Do NOT eat all those seeds. I say from experience... one time, many years ago, I was hiding my opiate use from my then-fiance, and she came home while I was in the process of making poppy seed tea. So I drank all of the water with the seeds in it. It was like half a pound of seeds. It was pure hell. I got them down, but my gut felt like it had a rock in it. The seeds swell up when they take on water, and my stomach started to feel like it was going to explode. I also got incredibly nauseous (from the oils I imagine.. you do not want all of those oils in you). I threw up eventually, many times, and ripped my throat and esophagus up throwing up all those little seeds. It hurt to throw up so much that I laid down and made myself stop throwing up. It's probably good I did throw some of them up, because even after I did, my stomach hurt so bad. I felt uncomfortably full for over a day and couldn't bring myself to eat any food. And I got constipated really bad. I forget exactly how long it took, but maybe 3 days later I finally started shitting them out, and they were massive, rock-hard shits that were basically made of compacted seeds. Avoiding excessive description... it bled. It hurt. A lot. And I was finding poppy seeds ifloating in the toilet for a while evn after my shits returned to mostly normal.

That was only half a pound of seeds. I don't even want to think of how bad it would have been had I been able to get more down (I had a pound and a half but I gave up and poured the rest down the toilet to dispose of the evidence after I got half a pound down because I couldn't bear to get more down.

I barely even got enough to get just a little bit high, too.


Just put them in a bottle of room temperature water, with a twist cap, and shake vigorously for 5 minutes. Unscrew the cap a quarter turn, and squeeze the water out. Fill with water again, repeat. Throw away the seeds, drink the water. Do the second extraction right away because if the seeds sit around wet, they start to expand and release their oils.
 
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