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Can you IV qld style "base"

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Dandi

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Can you IV or smoke qld style "base"

Seems in Queensland speed comes in a rather unique form, rather than a white powder or crystal I've been seeing a gooey "gak" otherwise known as "base" here.

The gak is usually yellow/orange and is just known as "speed" rather than meth.

Is it alright to IV like crystal? Im guessing it cant be smoked?

What is the difference between Queenslands gooey Gak as opposed to normal Meth?
 
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I've no doubt you can IV it, although you'd want to be using some decent microns or something to filter it - sounds like a fair few impurities in it from the colour and consistency.

It could probably be smoked if mixed with some smokable cutting agent (eg MSM) - just hazarding a guess there.

What's the difference?
It's made by Queenslanders ;)
 
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Dandi said:
Seems in Queensland speed comes in a rather unique form, rather than a white powder or crystal I've been seeing a gooey "gak" otherwise known as "base" here.

The gak is usually yellow/orange and is just known as "speed" rather than meth.

Is it alright to IV like crystal? Im guessing it cant be smoked?

What is the difference between Queenslands gooey Gak as opposed to normal Meth?
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Difference between ice and "base"? Ice is the purest form of meth, base is just cut/not cleaned meth thats why its goeyish. Id never IV stuff that isnt pure.
 
Although I don't IV anyway, I completely back sustanon in saying you shouldn't IV things that aren't pure. It probably would work fine, but it's a risk that can easily be avoided.

Just wondering has this "gak" been as good as other forms of speed that you have tried? If it has not, then Sustanons is no doubt correct and that it's simply cut/not cleaned meth
 
Yeah the base is strong orally, will bring you to painfull tears when snorted without adding any glucose though.

Guess I would need some pretty darn good filters then..
 
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Difference between ice and "base"? Ice is the purest form of meth, base is just cut/not cleaned meth thats why its goeyish. Id never IV stuff that isnt pure.
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that's why it's smart to run an acetone wash on the gear. you're going to lose some product obviously but the end product is going to be much cleaner and safer to IV. there's pure base around in the right places, but good luck finding it - it's as good as crystal.

this utter shite that's sold as base is one reason that helps me stick to not using it anymore. proper crystal doesn't make its way through enough to tempt me either.

use a micron filter in the least after you've ran it through a cotton filter first is my advice if you're willing to bunt it.
 
I don't know how people who don't boot or know very much about it can sit around making inferences 8)

People seem to forget just how dismal purity levels of street gear are in the first place - across the substances!

but you could follow leftwing's advice - acetone washes are well worth it, just make sure you give your gear sufficient time to dry before mixing it up. :)
 
look guys it depends on the cut of the base too.

base thats 1to1 is very unstable, it only has one part cut to one part base, must be kept in fridge or freezer, and is, or was when i was kickin was rarest.

2-1 is , or was more common when i was a base head, tho 3--1 was most common.

either way, when you scored it would come in a weight that was dependent on its cut.

3-1, you would get 4 points to make up the average $40-50 deal. and even though you had three parts cut to the one part base, it would still rip ya fucken head off if you were a novice, or hadnt used for a bit. a point of meth, no matter what form, will kick ya yeah.

so, we used to score a variety of these cuts, AND, allways shoot them. i can see no other descent way to use it. it allways desolved readily, and sure it was coloured.. whoppy-do. it was only that colour for a moment, then we'd be busy busy on the synths... oh yeah. i think base has a great feel. not quite as cold as ice. please forgive thu pun.
 
on the HR front tho, filter it, and dont use heaps more cuz you think its not as good as crystal.

essentially, its the same thing, just wet, and with a cut to keep it stable.

and uhh, lefty, i like a lot of your info dude, however, who, let alone a noob, is gonna attempt something like an acetone wash, when, its not really gonna improve it, and its ready for use as is.

base is fine for i.v.

when base started to get around ten years ago or so, give/take a few, it seemed like the roles royce compered to that overly cut powdered crap that had been the status quo.
 
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and uhh, lefty, i like a lot of your info dude, however, who, let alone a noob, is gonna attempt something like an acetone wash, when, its not really gonna improve it, and its ready for use as is.
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its going to improve the cleanliness of it ten fold and leave you with a mainly purified substance. fuck knows what junkies licked his fingers or stuck whatever kitchen knife into the gear before it gets into your veins. an acetone was is a very simple procedure and everyone using on a regular instance, especially in quantity should be performing it. it's certainly going to improve it. i'm failing to see how it wouldn't?

base is fine for i.v.

when base started to get around ten years ago or so, give/take a few, it seemed like the roles royce compered to that overly cut powdered crap that had been the status quo.
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pure base is fine for IV but not 99% of the shit that gets around on the street - i've known shit to have been cut with apap, ecstasy pills, dexamphet pills, castor sugar, pseudo, salt and the list goes on. i know and have seen the pure oil out there, 100mg that will fry you for 12 hours IVd, but the likelihood of a general bluelighter coming across that is very slim pickings - so perform a friggin acetone wash, they're too easy.
 
okay fair enough, its been a few years now since i was scorin base, and even then, sometimes it would be cut. this usually was when i had to go score at an undesirables place, as my sources would never cut it.

i can imagine it being cut to biily-o now tho.

so , in light of HR, an acetone wash is the go then, ok. thats cool, if ya know how. now, in all my years, i have never come accross said technique, so, in light of hr and all, could you, lefty, describe this for us, or provide a link, as i am quite interested. if i happen across some base, would give it a try. especially if it is as easy as you say.

putting the AA with morphine in the h drought was a welcome reprieve from the morph prickle, so a acetone wash for base also sounds good.
 
psynapsurfa said:
so , in light of HR, an acetone wash is the go then, ok. thats cool, if ya know how. now, in all my years, i have never come accross said technique, so, in light of hr and all, could you, lefty, describe this for us, or provide a link, as i am quite interested. if i happen across some base, would give it a try. especially if it is as easy as you say.
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sure man, give me the night though, while i sober up;)

putting the AA with morphine in the h drought was a welcome reprieve from the morph prickle, so a acetone wash for base also sounds good.
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never bothered with that myself, i've never used heroin, i quite enjoy the histamine release along with the rest of the morphine rush - the different places you get "hit" is each in itself an interesting sensation. i've orgasmed from a hit before, sustained erections quite a few times. usually an ansti-histamine beforehand will solve the problem anyway. preferably a 2nd generation one so you don't get drowsy. .
 
Hey Dandi,

The stuff you've described (can't be 100% sure though for obvious reasons) sounds exactly like what I get everyday. I do a gram a day usually.

Usually I mix with saline, heat til dissolved and shoot. From what I know of it (talking with people etc) its just a more dried out batch and hasn't had as much glucose/water/whatever added to it..

It's pretty decent stuff but again, not knowing exactly what it is, can't comment for certain. Just wanted to throw my 2 gold coast cents worth in, haha..

Mav :)
 
and uhh, lefty, i like a lot of your info dude, however, who, let alone a noob, is gonna attempt something like an acetone wash, when, its not really gonna improve it, and its ready for use as is.
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yeah after paying finer detail to what i said, i meant perform a (dual solvent) recrystalisation, not acetone wash. you typically use the acetone wash for cocaine (asked a lot in OD). The Amphetamine FAQ should start to give you a good understanding of what's involved (it's got a method listed, very short at that and not very fine in detail, it isn't hard to find them, trust me) .

"base" is more a marketing ploy these days(not desirable for IVers either as it's not easy to breakdown) with the high quality crystal available. it's usually just normal meth hcl cut with something(glucose usually i'm guessing, god knows what else) to provide that glugginess. most of the base i sampled back in 2004(when it was predominant in my area and when i was still using) looked as does in figure 3 in this article from April 2002 Drug Trends Bulletin, the more brown/orange waxy clumps rather than the white/clear goo i've encountered.

sustanon said:
Difference between ice and "base"? Ice is the purest form of meth, base is just cut/not cleaned meth thats why its goeyish. Id never IV stuff that isnt pure.
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check out that study above.
 
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Dandi said:
Seems in Queensland speed comes in a rather unique form, rather than a white powder or crystal I've been seeing a gooey "gak" otherwise known as "base" here.

The gak is usually yellow/orange and is just known as "speed" rather than meth.

Is it alright to IV like crystal? Im guessing it cant be smoked?

What is the difference between Queenslands gooey Gak as opposed to normal Meth?
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mate not sure where you come from but i used to live in qld and yeh its base and its shit qld has crap compared to other states ie ...vic,nsw.....
and yeh you can iv it
 
ive come across a variety of bases'. some pinky gluggy, some browny goo and clear almost gel. the pink was easily the best but i was just eating and snorting.

tried first crystals recently. shit all over base in terms of quality and versitility

im inner west syd
 
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