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Benzos Can you feel euphoria with benzos if you don't have anxiety?

Hi Bluelighters.

I always ask myself this, since I don't consider myself an anxious person, maybe depressed, but benzos have never caused me euphoria, not even like alcohol and not to mention opioids. Is it a requirement to suffer from some degree of anxiety to feel the high and euphoria of benzos?
Benzos just make me sleep. Right now I just took 2mg of alprazolam and I'm just feeling sedated and sleepy. I have a low tolerance for benzos btw.

No, anxiety is not a requirement to get recreational value from benzos. Delusions of complete sobriety are a major side effect.

euphoria is not synonymous with recreational. For example, I don’t get euphoria from cannabis but it is undeniably recreation
 
Clonazepam is an anticonvulsant so it's kind of unique as a benzo. I really like it but I always got nervous driving while on it and had to focus on not driving into a ditch or something. It destroys panic attacks though, like within minutes of taking a pill

Driving or otherwise functioning on alprazolam is no problem either if I don't overdo it. Diazepam obviously has long lasting effects and is definitely the easiest benzo (that I've had) to function on. Too bad it's so hard to get scripted. I only know one person who takes it and it's prescribed for insomnia
 
So I am reading this thread on Sat night. Now I already know I don't get euphoria or any recreational effect from benzos. If I use them at the end of a trip I can feel how strong they are. A 300 mg gabapentin and 1 mgs of alprazolam or 1.5 etizolam brings me way down and knocks me out. (I can't tell the difference between alprazolam and etizolam except etizolam wears off completely after 6 hours more cleanly)

Anyway I am reading this thread and figure I would try again. There are some compelling posts. lol So the plan is I would chill out on the couch smoke weed and take 2 mgs of etizolam. Watch TV. The only thing that happened was I layed back, dozed for a short while, got up, at a half a bag of peanut chews like a slob and left the wrappers. The next morning I barely remembered it yet I was not high. And wow I get amnesia from all of them. I can't remember what I watch yet the night before I was fine it seemed. But yes I was knocked out and slept hard. Alprazolam does the exact same.

Relief of anxiety would be pleasurable. (seems all pleasure is relief) But to take it to feel good when I am already chilled does nothing except make me eat and dozy and have amnesia. This from a totally clean benzo head , barely used and I even went 15 years once without so much as a 5 mg valium. (as a kid we munched valium and drank to get f*cked up on occasion) So now I just use them when I need them. Sleep before a long drive back and forth to Canada which I do often or coming down from a trip and needing sleep. I don't have the type of anxiety to justify their use. But they are a good med for people that need it.
 
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Doesn't everyone have anxiety? I've used used all the benzos around the world I believe; couple of crazy ones like nitrazepam in East Asia and phenazepam (did I spell that right?) in Russia. Clonazepam gives me a wierd sense of false confidence and got me in a lot of fights.

But I wouldn't say euphoria per se. That word makes me think of meth, coke, or maybe heroin.
 
Doesn't everyone have anxiety? I've used used all the benzos around the world I believe; couple of crazy ones like nitrazepam in East Asia and phenazepam (did I spell that right?) in Russia. Clonazepam gives me a wierd sense of false confidence and got me in a lot of fights.

But I wouldn't say euphoria per se. That word makes me think of meth, coke, or maybe heroin.

Sometimes I have anxiety, but almost never. I am more depressed than anxious haha I am a very weird guy.
I think I'll save the alprazolam for some day where I do feel noticeable anxiety. Taking them when I'm calm, they just make me look tired and sleepy.
It's funny that you mention clonazepam, because when I took it years ago it made me steal redbulls or any other inexpensive shit from Walmart and think it was invisible. I know a lot of people who do the same thing, they become kleptomaniac with benzos.
 
Sometimes I have anxiety, but almost never. I am more depressed than anxious haha I am a very weird guy.
I think I'll save the alprazolam for some day where I do feel noticeable anxiety. Taking them when I'm calm, they just make me look tired and sleepy.
It's funny that you mention clonazepam, because when I took it years ago it made me steal redbulls or any other inexpensive shit from Walmart and think it was invisible. I know a lot of people who do the same thing, they become kleptomaniac with benzos.

My friend, I have a prescription for alprazolam (Xanax) for GAD. Low dose, 0.5mg twice a day and an additional 0.5 PRN (in case of panic). Xanax is EXTREMELY fast acting (sublingual) and that's why it's the perfect remedy for a sudden panic or anxiety attack.

Clonazepam is more of a bipolar and epilepsy thing; it's long acting and potent, and IMHO shouldn't be taken for anxiety. In the middle East heroin addicts have a bad habit of mixing it with heroin because of its INSANE potentiation of opiates, but sadly, I lost a few friends to this habit. I think diazepam is a much safer alternative if someone is looking for something long acting for anxiety or depression.

Bro once I had a 30 minute fight at taco bell when I was on 8mgs Clonazepam, because they didn't give me sauce. Just because of SAUCE LOL I was yelling and screaming and got my money back. Idk why clona does this, makes you moody and gives you this odd... What's the word I'm looking for... Courage; yes, courage. You don't fear consequences.

Overall I think the most important thing is to keep your tolerance low. That way when you need a Valium or a Xanax, it'll work best.
 
It's funny that you mention clonazepam, because when I took it years ago it made me steal redbulls or any other inexpensive shit from Walmart and think it was invisible. I know a lot of people who do the same thing, they become kleptomaniac with benzos.

Same thing happens to me. I never would shop lift sober. Mainly because I feel like id never get away with it. Also because it never even enters into my mind.

Yet last year on 10mg of etizolam I stole a bunch of nicotine gum from Target.

Whats weird is that I have zero use for nicotine gum. Ive never been a smoker.

Benzos change my behavior more than any substance ive ever used.
 
My friend, I have a prescription for alprazolam (Xanax) for GAD. Low dose, 0.5mg twice a day and an additional 0.5 PRN (in case of panic). Xanax is EXTREMELY fast acting (sublingual) and that's why it's the perfect remedy for a sudden panic or anxiety attack.

Clonazepam is more of a bipolar and epilepsy thing; it's long acting and potent, and IMHO shouldn't be taken for anxiety. In the middle East heroin addicts have a bad habit of mixing it with heroin because of its INSANE potentiation of opiates, but sadly, I lost a few friends to this habit. I think diazepam is a much safer alternative if someone is looking for something long acting for anxiety or depression.

Bro once I had a 30 minute fight at taco bell when I was on 8mgs Clonazepam, because they didn't give me sauce. Just because of SAUCE LOL I was yelling and screaming and got my money back. Idk why clona does this, makes you moody and gives you this odd... What's the word I'm looking for... Courage; yes, courage. You don't fear consequences.

Overall I think the most important thing is to keep your tolerance low. That way when you need a Valium or a Xanax, it'll work best.

Which one would you consider to be the most appropriate benzo for stage fright or social anxiety?
 
Doesn't everyone have anxiety? I've used used all the benzos around the world I believe; couple of crazy ones like nitrazepam in East Asia and phenazepam (did I spell that right?) in Russia. Clonazepam gives me a wierd sense of false confidence and got me in a lot of fights.

But I wouldn't say euphoria per se. That word makes me think of meth, coke, or maybe heroin.

Opies and stims relieve anxiety for me way more than benzos do. They're just so sedating and I look like frankenstein to everyone around me on xanax despite feeling totally sober. Benzos are dangerous in behavior lol. Apparently when asking the QuickChek worker for a sandwich--all that came out was "blalhd ladlf oa???" I was very certain I asked for a sandwich but honestly it's whatever now I'm over it.

I like gabapentin because it doesn't sedate me like a zombie. Everyone does have anxiety.. how could you not? Everyone we know will one day be gone and there's a million potential things that can kill you. I think there's a difference between standard anxiety that everyone has and panic attack disorder/a heavier anxiety disorder. Some people can't live without benzos and that's alright.
 
Same thing happens to me. I never would shop lift sober. Mainly because I feel like id never get away with it. Also because it never even enters into my mind.

Yet last year on 10mg of etizolam I stole a bunch of nicotine gum from Target.

Whats weird is that I have zero use for nicotine gum. Ive never been a smoker.

Benzos change my behavior more than any substance ive ever used.

:ROFLMAO:

I shoplift many times under the influence of benzos: protein bars, energy drinks, chocolates, cookies. I had enough money to pay for them but for some reason I liked the feeling that I wouldn't get caught. Eventually one day I got caught because I was as high as fuck. Pregablin, lorazepam, and tramadol. It was too noticeable that I was under the influence of some drug because of my red eyes and pinpoint pupils. The security guards were friendly with me and they let me go when I explained to them that the medications cause me that compulsion.
Now that I don't take benzos, I don't shoplift anything anymore.
 
I found Clonazepam was the best for stage fright. I also find it's the best benzodiazepine for social anxiety.
! :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

This information is very valuable because I think I have a small degree of social anxiety (when I gave presentations in College or University it made me too nervous) For my degree I decided to drink two shots of vodka before the presentation to calm my nerves and anxiety and it works spectacular, my teacher told me that my presentation was the best of all haha. Next time I will try Clonazepam. Thanks bro. (y)
 
Has anyone here taken clotiazepam (rize)? Apparently its sold in very few countries and there is not much information about the drug. I am currently taking it and I like that it is not as sleepy as alprazolam.
 
I am regular user of Xanax (meaning occasional but regular, not daily). And I use it strictly to calm me down to deal with some issue that day. Meaning, I feel anxiety going up and then I take Xanax. And it works wonderfully.

But if there’s no acute issue, taking Xanax is stupid. One will just go sleepy. So, no, not everyone has anxiety and not all the time. It’s acute issue fighter for me.

Also, it’s nice with weed, coke - prevents jittery behavior, calms me down, but leaves the good parts of aforementioned drugs. But I don’t do it regularly like that. Again, if I feel acute anxiety and more towards the end of the “party”.
 
:ROFLMAO:

I shoplift many times under the influence of benzos: protein bars, energy drinks, chocolates, cookies. I had enough money to pay for them but for some reason I liked the feeling that I wouldn't get caught. Eventually one day I got caught because I was as high as fuck. Pregablin, lorazepam, and tramadol. It was too noticeable that I was under the influence of some drug because of my red eyes and pinpoint pupils. The security guards were friendly with me and they let me go when I explained to them that the medications cause me that compulsion.
Now that I don't take benzos, I don't shoplift anything anymore.

This is why benzos terrify me ;) I've done things totally out of character on them as if I was on 11 shots of vodka. Apparently I drove someone to work once? I literally don't remember that at all.... Try not to drive on benzos unless you know you can handle that lol.
 
I'm glad I could help you supersonic89. Where I live, most doctors don't want ANYTHING to do with anxiety or mental health issues....not even the mental health hospital. I don't take Ativan or Clonazepam anymore since I had to get a new doctor and he won't prescribe benzodiazepines so I had to quit cold turkey. I am already on anti-seizure medication so I was lucky that I didn't have a Grand-Mal Seizure when I quit.

I now take Argyle Softgels (Indica-based Cannabis product) instead for anxiety. I found that the dose 50 mg THC with 60 mg CBD works well for me - I can handle things that trigger seizures, handle my needle phobia (neither Ativan or Clonazepam helped me with that), and sometimes feel high even though my tolerance and the number of times I take it is the same.

I personally like Argyle Softgels more than Ativan and Clonazepam now, because of these reasons. lol I somehow don't get the side effect of "the munchies" yet end up with the shitty side effects time dilation, heart palpitations, and headaches. I found out that taking Advil reduces the high so I usually ignore the headache and it will go away.

I managed to "stop" the time dilation side effect last year since I took it one day, on December 23, 2019. I planned on taking them during Christmas in order to handle an asshole family member that I knew would be drinking and getting high by smoking cannabis at the same time. However, since another person would be there during Christmas I figured I wouldn't have to entertain the family member the entire time so could endure some of their nastiness when they got drunk and high. Because time was going REALLY slow that day (everyone I spoke to noticed that time was going extremely slow) I decided, that night, "Fuck it. I'll take them now since I won't be the only one that has to entertain this person during Christmas, someone else will be there too. What's the worst that will happen, will time stop? (this part was sarcastically thought)". I took the same dose and waited. A little while later, they kicked in, and time actually sped up; I even laughed a lot while watching Cube Zero online. I have seen that film before and never laughed at it sober. I still got the headache but no heart palpitations even though I ate and drank the same things the other times I took the Argyle Softgels. I figured that the only bad side effect I would have from now on. I was wrong, after that day, the only bad side effect that disappeared was the time dilation.

I don't have heart problems yet somehow get the fucking heart palpitations almost every time. The only "good" thing about THAT shitty side effect is that it was actually the side effect that made me realize the Argyle Softgels work well for my anxiety and seizures - I discovered that in July 2019.

I was looking up the side effects of cannabis on Wikipedia and noticed a complicated word that seemed to be related to the circulatory system. I actually can't read, watch, or talk about ANYTHING related to the circulatory system without having a Simple-Partial Seizure that involves an aura (ironically a medical scene from a 1992 episode of Barney & Friends that gave me Grand-Mal Seizures in the past - I think you will figure out what the scene is), the smell of raw seweage, feeling of nausea, and/or turning red in the face as if I'm embarrassed, even though nobody knows the seizure is happening (it happens both with the trigger and randomly without the trigger). Anyway, because of this seizure, I usually exit out of whatever website I'm on, stop reading whatever I'm reading, and/or quickly change the channel if anything related to the circulatory system happens. That day that I was on Wikipedia, I hesitated for a minute, thought "I'll just click the article, get the definition of the word at the beginning of the article, and go back to this (the Cannabis) article", and clicked the article. The definition/explanation wasn't clear in the beginning of the article so I ended up reading through it. I was halfway through it when I realized what I was doing. This was when I discovered that the Argyle Softgels were actually helping me since in normal circumstances I would exit out of the article if I clicked it. I tried the article a few days later while sober and couldn't read it. This was how I knew the Argyle Softgels worked. Since then, I take them for medical appointments that I'm nervous about (blood tests and dental appointments) and they work GREAT.

I think I will have to take them when I see my neurologist again since I will have to disclose this seizure. I disclosed it once, in August, because I was at the emergency room for that type of Simple-Partial Seizure. I had another version of Simple-Partial Seizures that I had an overwhelming sense of fear with instead yet couldn't identify the aura so that one was "easier" to talk about, probably because I don't know what the aura is from, even though it appears to be Lucy saying a quote that I can't identify - it always appears as "I thought you said you liked/didn't like (this part changes) the ______ song" (I don't know what the title or whatever the song is).

On August 8, 2020, I had a bad Simple-Partial Seizure at the emergency room in front of a woman (who I will NEVER call a doctor) that examined me. I was there because of that Simple-Partial Seizure. When it happened, I dry heaved into a plastic bag the triage nurse gave me but never threw up (I felt severely nauseous; the woman triggered the seizure). I explained, before she examined me, about the aura and trigger. I didn't give a shit that she had to examine me, but when I had the seizure in front of her she was rude, dismissed me, and said that she wouldn't do anything, not even contact my neurologist, who I had been trying to REACH since May. Her behaviour is the very reason why I wouldn't tell anyone about this type of Simple-Partial Seizure - since I was seven years old my intuition said that if I told anyone about this version I would be treated like I was a crazy, lying, freak. My intuition was RIGHT. I'll try to disclose this type to the neurologist (since it is indeed a seizure) but I'll be taking the Argyle Softgels so it will be easier for me to talk about this type of seizure. If he treats me like shit for telling him too then I don't know what I will do. At least I am calmer and able to handle assholes when I take them (I didn't take them the night I saw that woman).

I recommend people try them, if they can. You don't need a prescription so you don't have to worry about interacting with a doctor that dismisses you/refuses to do ANYTHING, which is a huge positive factor.

50mg of THC, regardless of any amount of CBD to accompany it, would have me freaking me out, examining my mortality and realizing that the boron in my bloodstream is billions of years old and that we're all gonna die but yet we'll never die because we've been alive in some form since we spawned from a simultaneously small yet massive ball of matter of infinite mass.
 
50mg of THC, regardless of any amount of CBD to accompany it, would have me freaking me out, examining my mortality and realizing that the boron in my bloodstream is billions of years old and that we're all gonna die but yet we'll never die because we've been alive in some form since we spawned from a simultaneously microscope yet massive ball of matter of infinite mass.

Hmm interesting! Weed can make you have heavy stimulant use paranoia where it's completely dysphoric. I smoke weed probably daily but it just doesn't cut it when it comes to drugs--it's not strong enough lol.
 
Clonazepam is an anticonvulsant so it's kind of unique as a benzo.
Its also very close to Flunitrazepam which a lot of people find 'euphoric'.

Clonitrazepam would also be a correct name for clonazepam I believe.

Essentially for me the benzo euphoria is just warmth instead of the coldness of an anxious state. Like when used during or after a stimulant
 
wow, the effect negrogesic describes from 50 mg of THC is the effect I get from like 100 mg of 4 aco dmt lol....... A lot of people play weed off as a non drug, but if you arent a regular consumer, it in fact can be an intense psychedelic experience
 
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