Can we have a thread here to discuss the current lounge rules?

TheLoveBandit said:
But at the end of the day, the LOUNGE is a byproduct of the site, and can be eliminated or reformatted by "the manz" if it interferes with the site's needs and goals overall. Yes, keeping the members happy is part of it, but the overall site is more important.

Listening to the members, that's why the thread is still open. Trying to reach a medium where member needs are met but the forum falls under the umbrella of the site appropriately, that is why staff and members are sharing their thoughts.
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Firstly, thanks again for keeping this open. Public discussion, as long as everyone is reasonable, I think will only benefit this site. It takes balls to do this in public, thanks for having them.

The goals of the site (HR) and member happyness, are critical to any site. Its all about balance. You can't help people reduce harm, if there is no one here. But if everyones here being a dick, the forums goals of harm reduction are impaired.

This needs to be two way communication. Everyone needs to listen, and hopefully many people can bring some great ideas to the table to, continue what we do best, recognize our weakness, and improve them.

Discussion for community enhancement is great.
 
I like where this discussion is going now. I whole heartedly agree with TLB and 9mm.
 
9mmCensor said:
Yeah but unlike a country where people live, if you make this place suck, people can just leave.
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You make some good points, which we do need to keep in mind. I'd point out that the "you" in this statement can apply to admins/mods, but equally to members. And that making it suck can come from either over-zealous autocratic moderation, or from unchecked posting, and flaming/rape of newbies that drives them away.

[Basically dittoing TLB]
 
I'd like to say I also +1 on TLB's comments because it's the "in thing" to do and everyone ought to kiss his ass a little more ;) (actually, he's a dick, IMO, but whatever).


Actually, what we're hoping for is that this *does* lead to people (mods and members) willing to hop out of their foxholes, leave the entrenched defensive positions, and walk to the middle ground for mutual benefit. I think we're kind of getting there because YES there members who have been perceived of as problematic but they can most likely help raise the forum from it's current state or find other places on the net for such antics, and YES because the mods (and sr staff) are listening, trying to find a way to moderate a forum in an effective (non-combative) way in maintaining that decorum. There is a solution, we just haven't found it yet - which leaves us with the opportunity to keep working on it.

I will also acknowledge the voices that say this is pointless, that we're getting nowhere, etc. If you see things that way, then you miss the point and you will go nowhere and help none of us get anywhere with this issue. That is your choice, but don't fight those of us (from all sides) who are trying to make things better than they are. If you can't or won't help, then don't hinder.
 
Infinite Jest said:
[Echoing TLB].

The point of the Lounge (and its predecessors) was to have a place for non-drug-related discussion; to enable (for example) the removal of chatty threads from Bluelight Discussion, so that forum could become Ecstasy Discussion and focus on the board's core purposes.
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yeah, the Lounge (or Bluelight Social or whatever it was called) used to be a place where people who actually contributed to the board's mission would go and be social. now it's turned into some sort of deranged science experiment with neverending controversy. what's wrong with you people?
 
SillyAlien said:
So, what is your proposed solution, 9mm?
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I don't know the final answer.

There are a lot of things that can be done (close the lounge, have a naughty and nice lounge, etc), and don't think I can come up with the best solution on this, I am a bit out of the loop there, but I hope that my experiance dealing with children and being a leader in small communities can help here.

Firstly I tend to start looking at a problem by defining what the problem is, and defining the issues that are relevant.

So what is the problem with the lounge? What is the lounge right now? What do we want the lounge to be? What can the lounge be, that fits in with the sites goals? Why is the lounge in the state it currently is?

I am currently thinking and evaluating scenarios on what we can do to improve stuff here. One that I have though of...

Close the lounge, lock it, hide it whatever. All social discussion is redirected to the local (North America, Europe and Africa, Oceanic) social forums. Use those forums to evaluate members reactions to rules, use it as a testbed and try to find a sweet spot.

People that are a problem in the lounge, may not be a problem elsewhere. If you have a member that is making shit in the lounge, but helpful and a good contributing member in the rest of the forum and working towards the forums goals, that person needs a timeout from the lounge.

A broad spectrum opinion on the lounge would be interesting/useful. A little survey to see what BL thinks of the lounge might be a good idea.
 
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I'll show my petty side:

>>but a few jpgs is an outrage.
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A "few"? The raw visual real estate taken up...the relentless memetic repetition...
It displaces all signal from my visual and cognitive fields, leaving room only for what would be noise if it weren't so uniform and monotonous.

Heh...just one guy's take here.

>>There is a level of decorum (sorry, SA, I think you worded it too well for me not to steal), which this site needs to maintain.>>

The lounge maintains a level of decorum now? ;)

ebola
 
Before anyone else posts, if all you have to say is some disparaging remark, I recommend you not bother.
 
Fair enough, I'll codify my point if that was directed at me. Many of the people contribute to the Lounge may feel alienated by these new rules. Especially, mind you, because they seem very subjective and seem to only offer a cursory head nod towards actual regulation. Now, I don't agree with the overly vitriolic remarks directed at certain users but the 'assrapings' have been around since my first days. It seems we pine for the 'good ole days' when in fact we just seem to be looking at a rehash of the same threads that were recycled garbage when I joined.

I remember a thread in particular about 'how jaded are you?' and that cries to me as a perfect example of how things really haven't changed. Sure, maybe we as mods aren't being as vigilant as we need to be. Maybe we aren't backing each other up as much as we should. Maybe we aren't being creative enough. However, I know that I've posted some only marginally funny stuff in the Lounge and I've gotten far more leeway from old and new member alike than I used to under the old screen name. Hell, I stayed out of Social mostly because It got old quick.

Despite the 'annoying bullshit' that goes on these days there seems to be a pretty broad base of posters that really seem to enjoy the tit for tat in the Lounge these days instead of the tired old cliques that used to be present. Instead of avoiding it because it 'jus ain't the same' try immersing yourself and giving the new people a chance.

We start punishing the 'meme-ers' out of hand and we are likely to lose the very members that support this site (at least in vitality). Want better threads in the Lounge? Why not get your ass in there and post something funny. Or try guiding a crap thread into a funny place. There is far too much of this 'this is my forum, that's yours' going on in my opinion. Be a part of the solution.

And really, I don't mind saying, this isn't about you, this is about Bluelight.
 
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tambourine-man said:
So... have we decided if it's possible to polish a turd?
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you can but not without getting your hands and possible other body parts dirty and smelling like shit
;)
 
Infernal said:
Want better threads in the Lounge? Why not get your ass in there and post something funny. Or try guiding a crap thread into a funny place. There is far too much of this 'this is my forum, that's yours' going on in my opinion. Be a part of the solution.
And really, I don't mind saying, this isn't about you, this is about Bluelight.
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agreed. (and i correct the "apart" bit)
 
Infernal said:
We start punishing the 'meme-ers' out of hand and we are likely to lose the very members that support this site (at least in vitality).
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i'm sorry, but i have to take issue with that point.

whoring it up in the lounge != supporting the site.

and the vitality of the site (for me, at least) is in no way connected to the goings-on in the lounge.

that is all. ;)
 
Banquo said:
yeah, the Lounge (or Bluelight Social or whatever it was called) used to be a place where people who actually contributed to the board's mission would go and be social. now it's turned into some sort of deranged science experiment with neverending controversy. what's wrong with you people?
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are you trying to say the lounge "whores" don't contribute to the rest of the site? bc i seem to recall everyone who is a said whore doing just that.

generic mind, clubbin guido, 9mm, and every other whore indeed does contribute to the rest of the site, and to a significant amount.

what is wrong with you? why don't YOU contribute more? bc you don't like it? so you wait till a thread like this is started and bitch about the posters who do take advantage of it?

srsly, not to pull the mom card, but you people are acting like children.

some kids you don't like come over and take over the playground, so you try to change the rules to make it more comfortable for you.

good job.

for fucks sake, this is fucking ridiculous. *insert big ass scary stickout tongue and crazy face here*
 
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(felix) No? I'd say if you start picking on the JC Superstars of the Lounge more than likely the Mob is going to start singing 'Hosanna Heysanna Sanna Sanna Ho Sanna Hey Sanna Ho Sanna .' I just think a mistake is being made in assuming that somehow the Lounge is separate entity all together.
 
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