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Hi well I am new to MDMA and extacy. I Webt to a festival on Friday and Saturday. On Friday, I had about 2-3 bottles of wine (I only need one bottle to be quite drunk) but it was a long day. Anyway I decided I wanted to try MDMA so I took 60mg off my boyfriend. I don't think it worked as I didn't get a 'come up' on this. Did I drink too much?

Then on Saturday, I had 1.5 bottles of wine by 4pm but could not get drunk so I took extasy pills instead. I took half a pill at 5pm but had no effect, then I took another half a pill at 5.45 and 'came up' at 6.15. It was a wonderful and euphoric experience. I gelt great till about 8pm but then I started to get moments of clarity (sudden feeling of being sober) every 20mins or so. Then at 9.30/10 I wasno longer euphoric and felt like I was completely sober. I asked boyfriend for more but he said to wait a bit. I waited till 10.30 and took a quarte of a pill, but no effect, then at about 11 swim took another half. I was expecting to come up within 30mins and to be quick like the last time but this time my come up lasted about 20mins of little rushes.

About 12ish I had definitely come up but started to hallucinate. I started to see a floating hat within the crowds, then thought te backs of peoples heads were actually the front and were staring at me. Then I turned to face the whole crowd behind her and all of a sudden I was a big blow up cartoon giant and everyone in the crowd were little cartoon dwarfs. I realised this was the drugs and was able to snap out of it. Then I was asking my friends question but after asking the questions I couldn't remember if Id actually asked them the questions or was imagining it. I then thought I saw some friends but darent go up to them incase I was hallucinating and they were not my friends.
The gig then got really busy (couldn't move at all!) so I asked my boyfriend if they could move back a bit, I thought there were loadsa gaps in the crowd but if fact there wasn't, but I kept seeing that.
I went back to camp site and was getting a few moments of clarity again occasionally.
I arrived at campsite where there were other people and drifted in and out of sleep. My boyfriend and I went to bed, and when there I thought everything had worn off (it was 3am) I then saw green writing all over the inside of the tent and asked boyfriend if I was hallucinating (which she was) I turned away and looked back and the writing was gone, then looked back again and the writing was back. I then fell asleep.
The next day I was a bit hazy and spaced out a few times (found it hard to focus driving home at 9pm that night.

Just wondering why I hallucinated that much? I wasn't scared at all but felt disorientated. Why did that happen and why was it not the same euphoria that I felt earlier that day? Did I drink too much or did I wait too long between taking the pills? Nobody else seemed to hallucinate like that and they were all the same pills.
Can someone please help me please?
 
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Friendly advice, no need for SWIM here.

First night you say you had 60mg, thats not a lot to be honest and would be why you didn't fully experience it. Since you drank so much as well it's fairly obvious that it overpowered any MDMA feelings.

The second day even though you didn't feel the MDMA the day before you would have used up some of your serotonin (happy chemical) and therefore would explain why you only felt good for 2hours or so. Re-dosing later has the same effect, theres no more serotonin left in your system to make you feel euphoric and happy so you didn't get much more. Trying to chase the same feeling as before you ended up taking more, increasing the negative speedy effects and lacking the empathy and euphoria of before. Eventually you can start hallucinating with MDMA, though you also could have ended up taking some other chemical if you didn't test your pills? Hallucinating happens with MDMA but only in high doses and by that point you've definitely either taken too much or are trying to re-dose and you're not really enjoying the "sweet spot" of MDMA.

Advice: Space your use AT LEAST 1 month, 3 months at best or your next experience will be a dissapointment, you won't feel the happy feelings for very long. Your brain needs to recover the serotonin used up. Also avoid drinking because in my opinion if your taking MDMA theres no need for booze as I don't even notice it and it dehydrates you.
 
I've edited the swimming out of your post so you get more responses. We don't do that here.

Were you smoking cannabis? That can make MDMA much more trippy. Drugs effect different people in different ways, but it is not unusual for high doses of MDMA to produce hallucinations (though maybe not quite as powerful as yours). 60 mg isn't enough, that's why you didn't feel it.
 
Thanks so much for taking the time to reply! I see what you mean about the serotonin. I am only going to be using it at concerts and festivals so basically max 3 times a year, and will not be drinking next time :) when my boyfriend takes it he seems to take one, then take another before he comes down so it lasts much longer, is that what I should be doing? Also how come everyone with me was able to take it two days I a row (some people took it three days in a row) and still get the same effect? Is it just how I metabolise it? Basically wondering how long one dose will last and what do I do if I'm at the festival again and want it to last a long time?
Sorry for all the questions, am very new to this :)

Also thanks for taking out the swims (have seen other boards giving out for not using it so didn't want to get in trouble) :)

And yea, I don't usually smoke cannabis but smoked 3 joints the first day!
 
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I don't personally think that MDMA is a great festival drug, due to the redosing issues (i.e. redosing doesn't work). Are you sure your friends are getting the same effects on the third day, or are you assuming that? Dropping pills as you come down to extend the experience isn't very good for you, one redose is fine but after that you're pushing it. I can't remember the specifics, but I think that once your serotonin is depleted, the action of MDMA becomes more dopaminergic and neurotoxic (bear in mind that MDMA is quite neurotoxic as it is). I only take MDMA once (at most) at a festival, it just doesn't last a long time. You're going to have to make your peace with that fact. You can keep dropping gurners all weekend but they won't get you where you want to be.
Also thanks for taking out the swims (have seen other boards giving out for not using it so didn't want to get in trouble)
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On shit boards. You're rolling with the bluelighters now and we don't fuck around with that foolishness.
And yea, I don't usually smoke cannabis but smoked 3 joints the first day!
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That goes some way to explaining the trippiness, if you hunt around ED (Ecstasy Discussion(this forum)), or use the search engine, you'll find threads about it. There's also a thread on hallucinations from MDMA. Hope you find the info you need, post here or send me a private message if there's anything else I can do to help.
 
Thanks vadar, yea have been reading up on it all day and will not be smoking cannabis : ) when you say that I can drip twice, do you mean that I can take some at say 5pm, and then take another before it wears off? How long should one last if I'm not drinking and when do I drop the second? Is it before the first wears off or when I'm peaking on the first?
Thanks for being so helpful, this site is great cause lack of lectures :)
 
One dose of MDMA only lasts for 4-6 hours. I'd take the second one just after the peak, but before you come down completely.
Thanks for being so helpful, this site is great cause lack of lectures
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It's great for many reasons. Stick around, you'll find that it's a wonderful community.
 
Thanks a mill, am feeling much more relaxed about it all now :) will be a few months before I'm doing it again but hopefully won't get myself into that trippy situation again :)
 
Different people react differently but usually people who are dropping more than one do the first and then after a couple of hours (depends on dose, person etc) when they've started coming down, drop the other. To be honest, the 2nd one never really works out like the first and will usually result in increased negative effects - more speediness or more trippyness or whatever.

Personally I think just one decent dose on an empty stomach and clean mind (no other drugs) and leaving it at that is best because you get the amazing high and all the fun and then you can go chill/smoke/whatever until you sleep. Then do something else the next day. I've been on multi-day binges back in the day and it always ends up in a world of weirdness and feeling ill.

I suspect the 60mg was overwhelmed by the booze as much as anything. 60mg is like 1/2 pill and plenty of girls get a good experience from 1/2 a pill. My other half never dropped more than 1/2 at any one time in years of partying in the 90s. Obviously this depends on bodyweight as much as anything.

Always bear in mind it is a very powerful drug with potential for some pretty powerful side-effects and that no matter what you think you've bought, you might get something else in the mix. Not many dealer will sell a bunk pill knowing it will kill you, but they might sell you a bunk pill that has oretty terrible effects when taken in multiples. So best to play it as safe as you can.
 
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1) You did drink a lot of alcohol, this doesn't really help

2) 60mg isn't a lot you need to drop a whole pill approx 120mg and then take half every hour after that

3) Quality of the pills might not have been so good

4) The pills might have contained something else i.e MDA, 2-CB, or even PMA (deadly stuff)

Feel sorry for you that you didn't have a good experience but there's plenty more oppertunities. MDMA does give you very minor hallucinations but the others I've mentioned about give you really intense hallucinations. Been there done that I don't like hallucinating had some really really...REALLY bad experiences in the past.

Welcome to the forum btw!
 
Folley said:
This is bullshit, start with a 100-150mg dose and redose half an hour or so later if need be. Dont keep redosing that just fucks you up
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Worked just fine for me and lasted 8 hours easily, I don't like banging a load in one go if I have to keep raving for a few hours
 
andyclark1225 said:
Worked just fine for me and lasted 8 hours easily, I don't like banging a load in one go if I have to keep raving for a few hours
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It's not really a matter of working or not. When it comes to damage, it's pretty widely accepted (at least around here), that NUMBER of doses is more relevant than actual dosage.

For example: 60mg + 60mg +60mg is more damaging than say, 120mg + 60mg.

EDIT: That's not to say that dosage isn't important. There certainly is a point where you've taken far too much MDMA and will do damage (whether physical or psychological) regardless of the number of doses.
 
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andyclark1225 said:
Worked just fine for me and lasted 8 hours easily, I don't like banging a load in one go if I have to keep raving for a few hours
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I know where your coming from man, Ive binge rolled for over 24 hours straight multiple times... always taking 4-6 pills a night, and now I have [worse] depression [than before], mood swings and apathy towards life in general.

Ask yourself... is it worth it?
 
Folley said:
I know where your coming from man, Ive binge rolled for over 24 hours straight multiple times... always taking 4-6 pills a night, and now I have [worse] depression [than before], mood swings and apathy towards life in general.

Ask yourself... is it worth it?
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Maybe over 24 hours is a bit too long the most I've ever done was 18 hours. Don't worry man I get depressed too but I had that from before taking drugs due to traumatic events, I guess the lack of serotonin a few days after doesn't help either but I believe everybody is slightly bi-polar and if you have things in life to be depressed about then it will happen...just more intense after taking drugs I guess.
 
andyclark1225 said:
Maybe over 24 hours is a bit too long the most I've ever done was 18 hours. Don't worry man I get depressed too but I had that from before taking drugs due to traumatic events, I guess the lack of serotonin a few days after doesn't help either but I believe everybody is slightly bi-polar and if you have things in life to be depressed about then it will happen...just more intense after taking drugs I guess.
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Im just trying to tell you what I wish someone would have told me, redoing every time and rolling every week or two will fuck you over in the long run. MDMA is great when you use it correctly
 
andyclark1225 said:
Maybe over 24 hours is a bit too long the most I've ever done was 18 hours. Don't worry man I get depressed too but I had that from before taking drugs due to traumatic events, I guess the lack of serotonin a few days after doesn't help either but I believe everybody is slightly bi-polar and if you have things in life to be depressed about then it will happen...just more intense after taking drugs I guess.
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That's a risky train of thought. Sure some people are depressed because of events in their life, but plenty of people are depressed due serotonin problems. The physical aches and pains, and complete lack of energy(not just motivation) that are associated with clinical depression are not just psychological. If you spend a little time sifting through this forum, you'll find a great number of people who completely derailed their previously great mental health by abusing MDMA. Use don't abuse, as the saying goes.
 
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