Can one pill kill you?

[fastandbulbous]

One pill, many drugs

single pill can kill, but as many have stated, it's generally due to interactions, or the person's behaviour, rather than MDMA on it's own. Even single pills of PMA or 4-MTA are not dangerous (except in the ways outlined above), it's when they get mixed with other pills that they become dangerous.

There is one incident I can think of, but it was a capsule, as opposed to a pill. My other half is an NHS toxicologist, and they had a warning circulated about capsules containing a blue powder, that had been found in the North of England. Some bright spark had thought they could increase the effects by adding 5mg of strychnine to the dose of MDMA. Two people had taken them, one died and one came close. There was going to be a regional alert because of this, but a few days after, the N. Yorkshire police busted someone who had 40+ capsules. Although they couldn't prove he had compounded them, there have been no other sightings, according to the NPIS.

A very rare case, but if you're in the wromg place, at the wrong time...

 

[TheDEA.org]

I'm not aware of any actual credible reports of people being poisoned by strychnine laced capsules or pills (pubmed doesn't know of any) and suspect this is an urban legend. (Those happen even in professional circles.

Can one pill kill? One pill probably can't kill the average person. One pill COULD kill an extremely small minority with serious underlying health problems (such as advanced heart disease), or possibly individuals with so far unheard-of freakish metabolic anomalies.

Statistically, if you use ecstasy and drive a car, you're much more likely to die because of the latter. If you're worried about your reaction to the drug, start with small doses (perhaps half a pill). People who are particularly fearful about the medical safety of MDMA are probably at a much greater risk of panic attacks when the drug kicks in and should probably delay use until they feel more comfortable.

 

[fastandbulbous]

People

This person (with the 40+) was a fuckwit who'd bought some strong pills, ground them down to make more doses, wondered if he'd stretched it out too far, so tried to compensate with strychnine (nux vomica, also ground). That's the reason there wasn't a regional alert (they worked it out, but couldn't prove it).

The reason i know, is because my wife finds these cases interesting (the stupidity of some people), like people applying plickling paste (for preparing metals for soldering) onto genital warts etc

 

[BilZ0r]

...and how did your wife find out?

 

[fastandbulbous]

The NHS

She works in that field

 

[ObscureDreamer]

Even single pills of PMA or 4-MTA are not dangerous

1 pill of PMA can kill you and it has killed people. If PMA wasn't dangerous people wouldn't have a problem taking it.

1 pill of pure MDMA could also kill you. Approximently 1 in 100,000 people die from soley pure MDMA. Odds aren't high, but there is still going to be 1 person.

 

[JuRuKi]

So you r saying that an informed raver drops knowing that there is a chancce that they might die? thats juss scary

 

[PGTips]

So you r saying that an informed raver drops knowing that there is a chancce that they might die? thats juss scary

Theres a chance you can die from alcohol, aeroplanes and aspirin. People rank the pros with the cons and evaluate if the risk is worth it.
You're more likely to die from a plane crash than MDMA, and hundreds of thousands (if not millions) of people fly on planes every day.

 

[fastandbulbous]

It has a name

It's called a risk/benefit assessment, and we go though them thousands of times every day, so why should it be any different when it comes to drugs

 

[snakjaw]

So you r saying that an informed raver drops knowing that there is a chancce that they might die? thats juss scary

An informed raver knows he isn't going to die.

If you die from taking a substance, there was some factor you weren't informed about, or you are just reckless.

 

[Pippin]

^^ that is absolute rubbish.

And is EXACTLY the kind of attitude that i am trying to alert everyone to!

An informed raver knows he isn't going to die. but an educated raver knows this view is possibly more dangerous than not being informed at all

 

[Pippin]

it is, in itself, the highest form of recklessness.

 

[Liquid SNake]

ive heard of someone dying off half a cap

 

[Sphinx]

No - One pill of pure mdma can't kill you. I view this matter as a 100% fact until there is reason to believe otherwise.

LOL stupidest thing ive read all day.

First off, who defines the dosage standard for "one pill of pure MDMA"?? One dealers dose could be 75mg, the others 150mg. How the fuck do you know, you dont.

Second, if aspirin can kill somone from a single use, how could you ever try to say MDMA cant??? alls it takes is a microscopic tear in your heart wall, and the introduction of a foreign substance to take down even the strongest of people. MDMA is no exception.

I view it as 100% WRONG for you to EVER try to convey a sense of 100% safety in using 'pure' MDMA or any-other drug for that matter.

 

[rcebborn]

I totally agree with the above thread. There will always be a risk of dying when consuming any drug, whether alcohol or ecstasy. You can do everything possible to minimise these risks (test your pills, stay hydrated, take breaks etc) but the danger is there and always will be.

It is the risk that we have to take, but everything has it's risks. You could die from choking on a McDonald's.

Peace