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  • BDD Moderators: Keif’ Richards

Can one maintain a euphoric mind for life?

fasting once a month ,
working it up
on day 2 you're fatigued from detox but you are euphoric, you are like on acid, all the time, and very happy ,
this is why jesus did it, and all spiritual people do , how to do it with drugs ? well , that will probably deplete your brain.


mantra is god , so you pick a mantra and say it constantly , all your free time, saturate in cosmic energy , problems solved, worth it it is

the gayatri is a great all purpose one

i guess you believe you are a glob of chemicals but no one is born with "pae levels" being "out of whack" whatever you have , the cause is BEYOND that, the cause caused causes which caused causes which caused causes which , only in the darkest corners of our dimwitted intelligence people reduced to a few chemicals, what we know is tiny , always, no matter how wonderful we grow

take a holistic route and be whole
or take a chemical route and be a fragment, unless you enjoy chemistry , do what you enjoy of course.

tai chi masters are always happy at all times, they don't sleep , when the sleep starts they have perfect zen meditation, being high , without NODDING into unconsciousness!

this leads to transcendental awareness.
balancing ida and pingala ( sun and moon ) through alternate nostril breathing when done often leads to the high , supreme, expanding, supreme , expanding ,
just sitting meditation sucks, it takes thousands of times longer than kriya yoga or pranayama.

unless you're fasting.

if you just sit , in 5 hours you get nothing
if you say 5 OOOOOHhhhhMMMMsss you get everything higher than pot , because it takes you beyond where a drug can lead, OM is the source of everything.
 
hmmm.... never say never!

this is just the kind of hedonistic idea I tend to get too wrapped up in trying to achieve too often.

honestly, if we are to throw out philosophy and enlightenment, the smallest amount of suboxone, dexedrine, and klonopin keep me in a very mild euphoric state that is very functional and balanced. I know for me getting treatment for ADD helped me enormously since the meds make my mind feel like it's actually working at full capacity. This in and of itself is euphoric for me after thirty years of untreated ADD.

however, I've always felt that the old "there is no darkness without light" saying will always hold true and that true enlightenment would be the best way to attain euphoria forever. But to be enlightened you'd need to let go of your desire to be euphoric, not so easy for us addictive types, at least not for this typing addict.

I don't know outside of enlightenment opiates and amphetamines always give me the greatest euphoria... so if there is a way to keep your tolerance in check and just remain on opiates and amphetamines maybe? sounds like a recipe for disaster I know..

So,

I really don't know, but I'd love to find out how to do it. I'd imagine it has more to do with how we think than anything.

morphine implant?
 
What an awesome question!

I actually try to do this constantly and so far it has left a me little problems, although I have only been doing it for 6 months.

This is what I do:

2 weeks of Diazepam/Alprazolam every day, plus occasional cocaine or MDMA use

then abruptly stop the benzos

then 2 weeks of Codeine or alcohol or another mild opiate or DXM everyday.

Then Keep swapping over never quite getting psyically dependant on anything.

Seems to work so far although im probably completley fucking myself up it does provide constant high :)
 
This thread is an interesting one to say the least.

Probably not one of consideration outside of a "drug forum". - CERTAINALY one of consideration - and possible profiteerism through the cloud method of storage, by which those of us deemed simply as "junkies" may never see. But nonetheless, not a dinner conversation by any means.

My opinion, being merely that, an opinion, and by no means, despite, any self perceived expertise in any one field related to "the Euphoric mind", is that this is a question of great complexity.

Can one truelly maintain such a state of mind?? FUCK NO!!!! duh... my bible told me so...

All jokes aside

Artificial means, given my understanding of neuro-chemical pathology, by no means an expert-level, yet, still very personal to myself in nature, in both peer-revieiwed medical literary, as well as, experimental contextual basis', relating to Continual Euphoric mental stasis is ABSOLUTELY NOT possible.

Allow me to elaborate.

The mind is , genetically, as I understand, programmed, via evolutionary survival oriented means, "programmed" to elicit appropriate responses given variable stimuli in any given situation deemed as being necessary for survival (eg. procreation, eating, etc.. & the means of being able to attempt to do so...).

With that said, sole reliance on artificial manipulation of this intrinsic systematic means of behavioral mediation is obviously not sustainable.

Unfortunately, this premise is given credence by literature, again, in my opinion, by means of manipulation, deception, & compartmentalization.

Whether the consequences of such means are perceived or unperceived as having inadvertent consequences is taken into consideration is questionable, ultimately it is "CULTURE" that ingrains these perceptions of normality into society at large.

With that said, rather than seeing an individual as a person having a broad spectrum of phasic personality traits, one is simply labeled, in many instances, as being, of "x" or
"y" caliber given their exhibition of certain personality traits deemed as outside the bounds of normality in relation to maturation of the psyche, rather than being seen as simply another "sentient being" simultaneously experiencing the "human condition" and all that said concept encompasses.

Implications, as far as general consensus goes, can, and should be, viewed as more harmful than beneficial. Especially given the advancement of technological networking in relation the value of what it means to be human carries in terms of potential implications. Again this all being hypothetical in nature, yet equally plausible.

To deem a person as being "malevolent" by nature given their unique progression throughout this human condition, widely obscured by many means, is not only to deem persons as being inferior-superior to one another -notably good in terms of competition-, is to cause a great disservice to the progression of humanity itself, and how we, collectively understand it.

By the various psychiatric monopolization of consciousness alteration, which prohibits self-exploration, by means of instilling acceptable social norms, has resulted in the categorization of behaviors intrinsic to the human experience as being either normal or abnormal, as opposed to simply omnipresent in the psyche of the mind; whether brought to conscious thought or not.

In so doing the broad terminology which the theory of Neurosis encompasses has been replaced & essentially discredited, by sophisticated, and compartmentalized means, though not to be considered unworthy of being merited with respect given their success in so, an obscured sense of what it means to experience emotional states given variables in ones life at any given moment .

This, being relevant in that, it basically reinforces, probably unconsciously, in susceptible persons, the notion that "medication" is the means of "fixing" or conforming this behavior to social norms.

EG .. "ADD children" should be "treated" with methylphenidate (an amphetamine-like drug) or other amphetamines, or children exhibiting
"depression" with Selective Serotonin Re-uptake Inhibitors, such as Fluoxetine (Prozac).


In my opinion, this notion instills being based on the premise that one is abnormal simply for displaying behaviors misunderstood, ormisinterpreted.

Personally, I find this despicable, yet highly profitable in nature (in relation to minors), <standing ovation>, but also applicable in some instances where a person of an APPROPRIATE AGE, is GIVEN the CHOICE to ALTER or "ENHANCE" their cognitive means to accelerate their means of achieving success in otherwise, seemingly impossible conditions, and, objectively, applicable means of applying chemistry to human consciousness.

However, the downside of this clinical ideology, being, in all probability, an inadvertent means a widely unrecognized factor in the prevalence of drug "habituation" or "addiction".

In being overlooked, or not even considered as being a factor in the aforementioned phenomena, the emphasis, in relation to deviance is placed on the "subject".

The subject, by nature, is deemed, not only abnormal, but, also incapable of comprehending the means by which their own character flaws are perceived by others is then further alienated by not only cultural means, but possibly even by psychosomatic means as well.

Those means of which are psychosomatic in nature, are then exacerbated by the perception that others perceive "the subject" as an outcast, by being an outlier within the accepted norms of behavioral characteristics, often characterized by age.

Age, here being the means, by which one expects another to be at equal capacity to relate socially in an acceptable & "normal" manner.

By having this silly idea of black & white in relation to human nature itself, which conceptually encompasses normality, "drug habituation" further becomes a means of coping, rather than a means of therepeutic application for which the DSMV is alleged to be based.

In conclusion, there are gray areas.

Gray areas which are not considered in a world where black & white polarizes individuals into categories of normal and abnormal. People, highly individualistic in nature, are not "subjects" or "mice in mazes", so to speak, but, rather, merely, the sons & daughters of parents whom can only, given the pressures of a capitalistic, and highly competitive society, dictate the outcome of a persons development within a certain range.

The rest relies mainly on societal tolerance, and acceptance to the fact that, human relations underlie many of these "ills" which become perceivable to others within any given society.

"Out-casting", being perpetuated by means of fear, and uncertainty, in an increasingly "dangerous world" only serves to further exacerbate the very problems with which drug prohibition alleges to eliminate. & in so doing, this state of Continually Euphoric mind is absolutely not possible.

Perhaps, in such a societal structure where the emphasis on drug use is less on "getting fucked up" and more on ritualistic, truelly, non-monetarily based means, such as that seen in the União do Vegetal of Brazil, which I know very little about, other than documentaries which have shown that the basis on which this Dimethyl-Tryptamine - Mono-Amine-Oxidase-Inhibitor based brew is consumed relies on the intent of purging "the ego", so to speak, of malevolence, is perhaps a possible means by which "a Euphoric Mind-for life" could, theoretically be sustained.

In this scenario though, the emphasis is not on chronic administration of the drug, but rather, socially oriented ritualistic means, by which the "collective consciousness" is unified.

In a capitalistic society, however, this is not possible, IMO, given the means by which these drugs are administered; on a chronic basis (institutionalized habituation & dependence; mysteriously separated from self-administration of similar CNS affecting substances)
 
Euphoria wouldn't be euphoria if you had it all the time. It'd be normal, and you'd get sick of it. I also bet someone would have figured out right quick how to maintain a "high" all the time if you could.
This ^^^

Behavioral and pharmacodynamic tolerance will both prevent a long-term continuous euphoric state. It would, as benny said above, just become the new normal.

Your brain is constantly making adjustments to maintain a certain level of homeostasis, and a continued, exaggerated sense of well-being is simply not possible.
 
Properly dosing psychedelics maybe once a month if you are comfortable with can cause a general euphoria to be alive. Of course this is my personal experience, though.
 
I'm doing alright. ;)

I don't believe you could threw drugs. Youd be so strung out by the end of it and who knows what a life time of drug use does to us. Your receptors would be so fried by the end you probably wouldn't feel anything.

Try some music the out doors or any hobby besides drugs. They all make you feel pretty damn good.

I agree with transending about the psychs. Lsd and mushrooms leave me in tune and appriciative of life. If occasional opiate use was possible for me I feel like that one could work.
 
think about a perma-high. sounds great, i agree
but i believe the reason we feel pain and sadness, is why we understand what good feelings are.
the only reason good feels good, is because we know how bad feels, so we stride for the opposite.
a rainy day is the only reason we strive for the days that are sunny.

if all days were sunny, they wouldnt be as special and meaningful, would they?
 
I think any sort of perma-high would be horrible. I would love having a never ending supply of drugs, but doing drugs... the whole culture, everything involved in it, from the pleasure to the pain, is what I'm addicted too. The unbeatable pleasure from being high comes from the the sharp contrast between the pain and struggle that I go through for that pleasure. My drug addiction is not slavery to specific substances or neurotransmitters, it's an addiction to the life, as much as I hate to say it, I know it's true. That's probably while I'll never stay permanently clean, my best chance is to try and stick to weed only. I hate it, but I love it...
 
i dont know who this bennyZa is...but hes fukin spot on.
the lifestyle is half the addiction..if not more
acquiring the DOC, the preperation, and the administration is sometimes strived for equally as much as the actual feeling
 
i dont know who this bennyZa is...but hes fukin spot on.

I know, right? He's so awesome. =D

Something I've been thinking of since I wrote that last post: When I mentioned the fact that I like the pain of my poly-drug addiction as well, something really clicked in my own head. It's a fucked up thought, but I never really thought about it before. I never understood the whole duality of drug use. Getting high wouldn't be getting high if you aren't low in between. Perhaps that's why I allow myself to get to these incredible lows... who knows. There cannot be euphoria without dysphoria.

I think I'm blowing my own mind.
 
Of course you can, just shoot up a ton of heroin, or whatever opioid you want and you will be in a euphoric state of mind until you are dead, therefore the rest of your life.
 
Only euphoric feeling ive ever had that lasted all day every day was when I was young & loving life (of course when you are between ages of 8 thru 16, you have no responsibilities, no bills to pay, etc..........& if you have love in your life within the family unit & among good friends, the good times are always there & they felt euphoric to me. Always smiling & having a good time w/o substances.

As far always being euphoric under substances, well, if it wasnt for tolerance issues, then yes, you could have what youre looking for in euphoria..............
 
Yeah man all you gotta do is get real fuckin rich and than you are good. You can be high for the rest of your life on any chemical you want! And if you end up disable you can have an IV attached to ya until the day you die and a closet full of different chemicals and drugs that will keep you fucked up forever.
 
Yeah man all you gotta do is get real fuckin rich and than you are good. You can be high for the rest of your life on any chemical you want! And if you end up disable you can have an IV attached to ya until the day you die and a closet full of different chemicals and drugs that will keep you fucked up forever.

You'd actually be surprised how cheap custom synthesis is. I've been looking at a lot of DRIs recently, and gotten bulk quotes that were an order of magnitude cheaper than many typical "street" drugs on a dose per dose basis.
 
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