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Can meth be this potent?

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As substance ID question are not allowed so I am just trying to obtain some information instead about Crystal Meth because this is only my second time using it. The meth I got this time is completely not what I expected and behaving in a bizarre way. But because of my lack of experience with meth I am just trying to figure out whether the problems I'm experiencing with my product are just normal characteristics of Meth.

So i am just going to ask some specific questions in regards to whether Meth can behave this way....

Can meth be so potent that you can only tolerate a dose the size of an actual flea and you have to carefully use a tweezer to measure out your dose?

And if meth can actually be created to be so potent and pure that you only need a dot sized flake, how can something supposedly so pure also be so corrosive and contain enough contaminants to burn and irritate your tongue, mouth, throat and stomach at such a TINY dose?

Doesn't any chemical impurities that remain in the meth become insignificant at such minuscule flea sized dose?

Should meth be more salty or bitter? and if it is bitter does that make the product questionable?

Can smoking just one inhalation from a meth pipe cause your mouth and throat to dry out instantly and irritate your airways and lungs causing breathing difficulties and burning feeling?

Is there a way to tell the difference between MDPV and meth and does MDPV also come in large clear crytals that look identical to Crystal Meth?

If Meth and MDPV apparently both turn the same olive greenish color when using the testing kit "Mandalin Reagant" are there other indications to look out for to differentiate between the two substances when testing?

THANK YOU ALL
 
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Thanks Captain, that explains some of what I am experiencing with this batch. The previous Meth I got behaved like what i expected from meth, it tasted salty and I was taking the size of a matchstick head from the previous lot and it didnt burn or irritate my stomach or throat even at larger doses.

But this new batch is really confusing me that i cant take more than the size of this coma symbol --> ,

And why is it so bitter that it burns my tongue and throat and causes stomach pains and acid reflux?
And it messes up your lungs if you try and smoke it.

How can such a tiny dose be so corrosive? I cant make any sense of it. Can meth vary so much between different batches?
 
Sounds like an RC. I have no personal experience with this substance just know from being around friends that it shouldn't "mess up your lungs" and you should be able to do more then "try" and smoke it, assuming your heating it correctly.
 
Doesn't sound like meth, you are basically saying you feel 1 or 2 mg. As someone who is sensitive to stimulants, i can handle a small line of meth.
Tell your source to stop with the fuckery and to stop selling chemicals he ordered online.
 
Thanks guys, very useful info. I think you guys maybe right about everything you said. But I should mention that despite its very bitter taste, it doesn't smell of anything.

Last time I used it a few days ago I only took the usual flea sized dose in the afternoon and then 10 hours later after the effects of the substance completely wore off I suddenly developed a secondary effect. My nervous system started feeling really constricted and tensed up. So I checked my blood pressure and it was dangerously high but my heart rate was very low. I couldn't make any sense of what was happening to me because the peak effects were long over.

Every few minutes I would slightly feel normal again but then another wave of hypertension and agitation would sweep over me. I have never had a panic attack in my life before and yet my hole body tensing up was inducing uncontrollable anxiety and panic. At one point my thoughts started to become weird and I started feeling like I was losing my mind. I have always been head strong and losing sanity was a new and frightening experience. It was only after propranolol and clonidine I was able to drop down my blood pressure to a normal level.

But during the peak effects of the meth-like substance I never had any hypertension, anxiety or feeling delirious. So I can't stop wondering what causes such an after effect? I heard people experiencing some side effects from drugs after it wears off, but isn't that usually associated with lack of sleep, redosing or a bad comedown?

This was different. Time to flush it I guess.
 
Ive noticed with meth it works well from a very small does if its good quality crystal, but then the dosage range from working well and noticeably to taking to much, OD is very large, imo. For example, I can take 50mg and feel great for 10 hours. I can also take close to 300mg of the same quality stuff and feel just as great, prob better, sometimes worse with more side effects, but not 6 times better, maybe only 2-3 times max. The point being it works in very low doses but the dosage range in terms of effects of increased dosage doesnt seem to be exactly linear. 100mg doesnt feel double as strong as 50mg and 200mg doesnt feel 4 times as strong or incur 4 times as much risk etc. Thats up to a point though, once you cross over a specific dosage, then suddenly the high increase suddenly feels like as much as it really is and bad things happen, you od etc. For me 50mg to 300mg = good time. 320mg however might suddenly make all thee difference from great to OD symptoms. Ive found it to be surprisngly forgiving in terms of high dosages, that is up to a certain point, where everything can change.
 
Sounds like MDPV, a-PVP or another RC. All the pure crystal clear glass shard meth i've had was nowhere near as potent as the pyrovalerones.
 
MrSpeedyG said:
Along with your dealers number.
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LOL! Well said. Although I don't have a dealer, I do have a dodgy cousin who was supposed to help me find some meth to use get me out of my bedridden state and overcome my Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and hypersomnia, but instead he completely ripped me off with this overpriced crap and when I weighed it I realized more than half was missing and now I find out its not even meth. So much for trusting family. I'm so disgusted with him right now.

Thanks for all the information guys. I have now flushed the remaining poison, I just wish I could do the same with my cousin. Although I lost a lot of money, I am actually glad to be rid of it.
 
Getting shit stuff is not great sure, however my issue is actually that decent quality crystal is simply to much. I get the standard dealer concept of selling a gram of something, but a gram of crystal is just insane, if it was sold in smaller quantities, it would be much safer and responsible. but a gram of crystal is like 5 days commitment or more, its like buying 5 grams of coke or more. It should be sold in smaller quantities to be more reasonable. It would be nice to buy some meth and know its enough for today and maybe tomorrow and not enough to destroy me for 4-5 days days and still prob have some left over for another 2 days which ill most likely take during the week or some other silly time when i shouldn't. I told the guy but he wont sell smaller amounts, he wont even reduce the quality for me, what shitty dealer. Bah, listen to me complaining about quality being to good, never thought id have that experience.
 
It dawned on me a hippie kid I knew always had acid Molly and research chems, never done acid so took 3 hits which the blotter tasted like ass and had such a strong taste . Was disappointed, it was like a mindfuck and only visuals I got were curtains moving of I looked hard enough. His Molly never made me roll that I know it was not MDMA, I brushed it off as him not aware either, again I eat a .4 off white crystal chunk. Huge pupils, eye twitches , no euphoria felt spaced out..hmm...wonder what RC? I Wonder if he ever dissolved 2ce in water and dipped a sheet of. Blotter into it? Never occurred to me he is ordering online. This broke all ties--said he had Molly but will sell it by a G Minimjm, and trust me Ben Franklin is 2 much for hit or miss. My friend came with me it tested back. Beta ketone? What's that ? Apparently he felt horrible or and didn't know-- go figure he wouldn't do less than A G. Thought I be nice and link him with a dope connect months ago I guess. He got strung out
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I have a pretty good idea what happened with the batch. If im right the cook made d-meth via SnB and after he Gassed .. he let the product dry without properly getting rid of the NPS, probably due to lack of knowledge. And it sounds to me he made a good batch and didnt even bother to cut it. But thats just a guess.
 
Captain.Heroin said:
Meth is stupid strong.

Some people can only handle a very tiny amount.
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Man u hit that nail on the head. Im from ky and I got a $20(.25) and im still spun and on day five. It keeps coming in waves. I shot a half a suboxone strip last night. Made me nod but full.of energy. Its been three days since my last chicken bone hit. Mad strong
 
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