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can impacted stool "hold" and contain vast stores of active amphetamine (Adderall)?

Well the worst is over now. I did have a bad panic attack that night in the middle of the night and demanded that my wife call and ambulance because I was firmly locked in a delusion that I was indeed having a cardiac infarction and was on the edge of death and losing the world. The chest pain my mind manifested was breathaking, it hurt so bad I literally had to lay on my side and grab my chestplate. I've had the vasospasms in my chest before but this one hurt like a heavy pressure. My wife was like "ok take deep breaths with me, deeeeeep deeeeeeep breaths" and I did and then suddenly my chest pain went away and I slowly emerged from the static blur of psychotic panic, totally baffled that this drug bested me once again.

No permanent damage except for the psychological kind and maybe a few billion neurons crisped. Totally unfun. Not worth giving up on yet. I'm starting to look like the people in my past who have died from drug ODs; just totally fucking stupid, reckless, and irresponsible.
 
You cannot "feel" a drug "sliding" through your veins. Unless maybe you've been IVing sulphuric acid.

You only feel the amphetamine once it gets out of your veins and into your brain.

I am more inclined to believe that you've had an episode of toxic psychosis. After all, when I had one from dexedrine, I felt like bubbles of air were entering my blood vessels from my lungs and running around (as bubbles) throughout my body. At the time, I believed it was happening 100%.
 
Soap MacTavish said:
Thanks for this theory full of insight and magic you judgmental prick. Maybe you can teach us all how you yourself have acquired your own personal firm grip on reality.
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i stopped taking speed (pretty obvious i would have thought...)

i'm judgemental cos i'm out the other side and i can see it for the supid mess it was at the time:\

speed psychosis can make you believe and percieve things that simply are not happening

cut out the speed- it wasn't an accidental overdose because you have been taking excessive doses of speed through choice regularly. 90mg of adderal is too much in one day
 
Adderall XR's extended release fraction is not time dependent, its dependent on pH in your digestive system. Its not going to wait till you need to take a shit to become active either. Also, its water soluble, so you excrete it through your kidneys. Now 30 to 40% is excreted in the urine unchanged, and urine is sterile, well, at least when its still in the bladder. I dunno how dirty your peter is though. So, if you want to drink your piss you will surely have a chance at a buzz. Just don't brag about it.
 
ok, what happens to the beads as they pass into the gastro intestinal? Do they remain unchanged in the resin coating? Whatever it is they they do makes it so it functions exactly as the manufacturer states; It releases the first half instantly, and then the remaining half is released close to exactly 4 hours later. The second half is always a more powerful effect and more pronounced hit. So at what location in the GI is it released?

4 hours is about halfway though the digestive process (usually 8 hours total) so that must mean it's close to the end of the small intestines right? So that means the beads are still in their resin coating when they get down there, which could mean that if they made it even farther along down to the large intestines they could possibly be trapped inside a dry pocket of impacted stool and possibly not be released as manufacturer intended?
 
pofacedhoe said:
speed and constipation dont go together unless you've been caning opiates

basically you need to lay off the speed, it sounds like you have this sense that you know everything and your theories are full of insight and magic. i have had this state before, and when i did i was in the grip of mania.

cut out the adderall and get a grip on reality
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They do if you've been forgetting to hydrste yourself properly. Forgetting to drink water etc while speeding is easily done. BTW dehyration & speed eventually leads to compromised renal function or even kidney failure...
 
The time release component is activated by changes in the pH of your digestive tract. Your stomach is seriously acidic relative to gastric fluid. An issue as of late has been the use of certain OTC products that bypass this and allow the entire dose to be released at once.
 
Yes thats how I got dehydrated, and hence the impacted stool. I was not paying attention to my shitting at all. I was sweating like a pig in this very hot weather and not drinking or eating all that much.

This one remains a bit of a medical mystery to me. I mean there's high doses and there's high doses, and this was a seriously fuckin high dose that came out of nowhere. I'm used to taking 300mg throughout a day and even once 600. I have had single doses up to 150mg. This felt like it must have been a monster 300mg dose. I know I should be laying off the stuff, workin on that. Anyway, hopfully somebody will be able to shed some solid light on this sooner or later. In the meantime next month I'll be switching back to IR. Those I fully understand their functioning. I still am thinking that it is something with the brand name capsules, because the generics never did this.
 
^ Trust me, there is nothing mysterious about amphetamine psychosis.

In fact, I trust you'll be encountering more "amphetamine-soaked impacted stool" and maybe those mysterious "amphetamine retinal-pockets" and the "amphetamine stored in the epidermal cells and released by UV-B radiation".

But who am I to argue with an amphetamine addict?
 
In all fairness, I have shot tar that I could easily feel burn as it ran up my arm. I know what you mean when you say the 'burn in your vein as it goes through your body'. However; I agree with jamshyd..


But the tar burn was probably because it was so acidic, which would not manifest itself with 'plugged amphetamine'.
 
smackem said:
In all fairness, I have shot tar that I could easily feel burn as it ran up my arm. I know what you mean when you say the 'burn in your vein as it goe


But the tar burn was probably because it was so acidic, which would not manifest itself with 'plugged amphetamine'.
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I don't think the OP even plugged it, oral dose IIRC. Which would make feeling it in your veins even more unlikely (if that's possible). But yes, I've felt meth going up my arm before.
 
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smackem said:
In all fairness, I have shot tar that I could easily feel burn as it ran up my arm. I know what you mean when you say the 'burn in your vein as it goes through your body'.
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Very true and I didn't think of this when I commented since I only lived in the southwest briefly while still actively using. That said, when shooting tar I always used to get the taste of vinegar in my throat as well, but that obviously doesn't mean my veins have a sense of taste. I perhaps incorrectly have always assumed that the burning sensation was more felt as the acetic acid contaminant worked its way into capillaries which run through skin and muscle tissue where the pain is felt, in a similar manner that allows the acetic acid to also end up where it can come in contact with taste receptors. Either way, noone can feel orally consumed amphetamine in their veins unless they're hallucinating from amphetamine psychosis.
 
pofacedhoe said:
speed and constipation dont go together unless you've been caning opiates

basically you need to lay off the speed, it sounds like you have this sense that you know everything and your theories are full of insight and magic. i have had this state before, and when i did i was in the grip of mania.

cut out the adderall and get a grip on reality
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He could be totally dehydrated
 
Turing Machine said:
Very true and I didn't think of this when I commented since I only lived in the southwest briefly while still actively using. That said, when shooting tar I always used to get the taste of vinegar in my throat as well, but that obviously doesn't mean my veins have a sense of taste. I perhaps incorrectly have always assumed that the burning sensation was more felt as the acetic acid contaminant worked its way into capillaries which run through skin and muscle tissue where the pain is felt, in a similar manner that allows the acetic acid to also end up where it can come in contact with taste receptors. Either way, noone can feel orally consumed amphetamine in their veins unless they're hallucinating from amphetamine psychosis.
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He is not claiming to have felt the amphetemene from the oral dose. He is claiming , or proposing, that it was stuck in his shit and then absorbed through his intestines, which would be a mechanism similair to plugging. I have plugged a drug before and easily got a real RUSH from it. Similair to IV, but obv no where near as strong.

However; all that said, I understand the mechanics of what you are saying and think it isn't absolutely impossible that that happened. Its just hard to beilive from someone who is toying with that much amphetmene.
 
Yes I absolutely have felt a burn going up my vein maybe 6 to 10 inches from shooting tar and other things. That's where I got the theory from, I thought that the concentration of impacted amphetamine was so high (I believe around 300mg) that it was somehow ultra-rapidly absorbed in the GI in high concentrations. Later in the day I found that it was not veins, it was actually running down nerves and the problem was electrical in origin. I found out the feeling of the "burn" was actually a rapid tremor in the muscle fiber. I could actually see and feel a bunching up of the muscle. I'm pretty sure this was the beginnings or a seizure because I has a few full body tics during the day. Anyway, this episode left me with 2 days of serious problems with blood pressure. Also througout the following 2 days whenever my bowel would move I would again be striken with an intense rush of amps that had the strangest onset of effects I've ever seen. Because I could actually watch and feel these electrical spasms travel down my body, following the amphetamine. Also whenever I would get this rush I could hear ringing in my ears, which I think is probably just high BP.

So, to clear this up I know now that nothing was "pumping through my veins" per se. I guess there's no way to verify this unless someone else has had this happen to them. I was not able to find anything searching the net so I'm not surprised. What I am surprised about is that some of you are insisting this was psychosis and to an extent it was early on, but the continued physical manifestations and this chemical amp "rush" happened.
 
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