Can I use epylphenidate IR?

[dopemegently]

I've been trawling threads and can't find an answer to this basic question anywhere. I'm not usually a stimulant user per se (used em a lot back in the day though), but I was given a gram of this epylphenidate with my latest etizolam order. (The big bag of etizolam will be handy for a comedown, im sure). I've done a decent-sized line, and I like the stuff- it's not bad, and I'm buzzing as we speak. Thing is, I hate the burning sensation when it's snorted. I know - I'm a bit of a pussy for discomfort, I admit. So, I was wondering if I could plug some of it to avoid that? I plugged coke quite a bit back in the day, and always found the effects waay stronger; I think I read somewhere there are more membranes in the back door than there are in the sinus, so that would account for the stronger effects IMO.

Anyway, sorry for the long-winded post for a rather simple question - as I said I'm buzzing right now, and tend to ramble away on stimulants. Any answers greatly appreciated.

 

[tweex]

Yeah, snorting ethylphenidate isn't really the best. I made some nasal spray out of it with 1% lidocaine that is bearable. It is actually an awesome cold medicine in this form

Oral or plugging are better ROAs overall.

Ethylphenidate isn't the absolute best of stims, but I've found it has a good niche at just quickly waking me the fuck up to go do something if I want to get back to sleep in a couple hours, kinda like nicotine.

 

[Psychedelic Jay]

You sure can. Just be aware that this is way less unforgiving in overdoing it.

I wouldn't do so much as more than 10-20-30 mg rectally...

Please pace yourself.

Have fun.

 

[dopemegently]

Cheers for the advice. and yeah, I'm having fun - so much in fact, that I've done the whole gram - it's moreish...Probably the main reason I stopped using stimulants: the fiend factor. EP good, not much in the way of euphoria, but in a great mood nonetheless. Could be down to my SSRI's, I've heard they can effect the seratonin releasing drugs. I heard it was similar to Ritalin. I've used that in the past, and found it to be functional stimulant, not really a party drug.

I did end up using some 40 mgs IR, and the rush was pretty damn good actually. I'm not a fan of IR; I find it quite uncomfortable..and kind of gross. Most of it, I ended up snorting. Adding a bit of lactose to the mix really reduces that burn. I also smoked some by chasing a small bump from tinfoil; I was worried the heat would destroy the drug, but rather than burning into a charred mess in the way powder coke would, it liquified into a golden brown colour, that looked and tasted like a certain other drug I could mention... I was under the impression only the crystal EP could be smoked? I noticed an instant rush, nothing major, but I was already very high by that point, I still am in a big way. I may take 2 mg of etizolam to slow things down a bit. Btw would taking a benzo (or thireno, or whatever the hell their called) nullify the effects of stimulants, or would it be a "best of both worlds" type effect- the clarity and focus of EP, with the chilled out fuzzies you get with benzos?

Overall, I really like EP, and will probably order a couple more grams for when I need the type of boost coffee can't provide. The vendor I use also sell synthacaine; people are describing it as a legal cocaine, only weaker in effect, like stepped-on coke. Jay, in future I'll be taking it easier on this stuff - a G in 7 hours is too much for somebody who hasn't touched stimulants in years. I feel okay though; no palpitations or negative side effects.

As somebody who used a lot of low-quality, cut-to-pieces coke in the past, it's easy to lose sight of the fact that these RC's are reagant grade, 97% and above pure, so it's def important not to overdo it.

 

[closeyoureyes]

It burns nose pretty badly. You just have to decide what you love more, your asshole , or your nose.

 

[dopemegently]

I love them both; they both serve important functions, and I don't like drugs to hurt when I'm ingesting them - I take that as a bad sign. From now on I'll be smoking my EP; you only need a tiny amount to get a serious rush, and there's no burning smoke at all: it's pretty smooth, actually.

What's the deal with big crystal EP though? It seems to be marketed as a type of "crack ephylphenidate" - and it's a lot more expensive: almost double the price. If EP is smokable, why buy the crystal at all?

I can't see how it's any stronger in effects; it's pretty much the same drug, with the same purity levels. Is it just clever marketing to sale the same drug that merely appears different? (I noticed my G of Ep was quite rocky and crystalline; maybe the vendors are just selling the pre-crushed drug at a markup?) Any crystal EP users out there? Also, I'm quite tempted buy this synthacaine stuff; anybody tried it yet - if so, how's it stack up against the real thing? It's been described as a poor mans cocaine; trip reports are indicating effects similar to low-purity coke...

 

[Psychedelic Jay]

Honestly synthacaine is a major waste of time that could make you push it to the point of fatality...

If it is that same dimethocaine and camfetamine mix, I'd stay very far away.

Camfetamine is nice by itself, but that dimethocaine is on par bad for ones heart just like cocaine... with nil of a high.

You get to chasing that shit you can kiss your ass goodbye. Generally speaking.

 

[dopemegently]

Yeah, I've heard mixed reports about it; I'll stick to EP in the future.

Speaking of, I've decided I won't be snorting it, plugging it and certainly to Christ not IV'ng it, as ive heard some people are doing. it's caustic. Nasally, I don't like the burn, I take that as a bad sign if its done regularly. IR, is painful also; I could see it doing some damage with repeated use. No, my chosen ROA is vapourising it, I prefer the effects, it's painless, and requires only the smallest amounts to get the EP effects, like 10 mg.

I was just about to start a thread on this actually, but I thought I'd throw it out on this thread. I've been reading a few threads, and apparently my ROA of choice actually yields negligible amounts of drug if the EP is smoked as it is. I think the number 40% was mentioned. Apparently, the powder EP is a HCL; so I'd be interested in freebasing it, if that's possible. I'm not into using solvents or any advanced techniques; I have no chemistry training, for one thing. I'm after a simple, home bake formula to achieve this. I read it can be done in the same way as cocaine HCL: a spoon, some bicarbonate, and some water. So my question is, can I make freebase using the exact same way as cocaine HCL freebase (there are plenty of step-by- videos to do this on the net; if the same method would work for both drugs, I'll have an easy time of it) or, would there be a different procedure involved.

Obviously there are risks involved with freebasing; I'd have to use very low doses.