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Can I just chew LSA seeds?

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TruffulaTree

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Picked up some hawaiian baby woodrose seeds at a smartshop today. the guy was telling me about soaking them in water for like 30 mins, crushing them up, and then drinking them with water, or something to do with taking them with a vodka shot. I've read some much more complicated preparation processes on the internet.


But I came across one that suggested you can just chew them straight, mash them up with your teeth, and get the effect simply from that. That would be much nicer than having to wait and go to the extra work. Anyone ever try this?

And if not, does the simple water-soaking method work? or is it more complex than that?
 
I read that the skins of Hawaiian Baby Wood Rose seeds have more of the nausea-inducing alkaloids in them, so scrape off the outside first. I don't see why a water extraction wouldn't work so long as the seeds are pulverized first and you maybe bring the water to a boil before filtering the seed pulp and drinking. I think the ethanol is more for doing extractions of large amounts so you have a preservative for storage, but if you're just doing extractions for a single session I'd think it wouldn't matter. I personally don't experience nausea with 5 or 6 seeds, but with 10 seeds I did. A friend did puke using just 5, though that was after climbing the side of a mountain in the sun a little more enthusiastically than he probably should have in that state.
 
How would I scrape off the skin? with a knife or something?

and does the water get rid of the skin, or do I need to do something to it before I put it in the water?

do I need to boil them in water or can I just let them set in normal water?
 
A knife is all you need to scrape the husks off the seeds, just be careful since the seeds are pretty small and difficult to work with. I don't know how effective my technique was, since I still suffered a fair deal of nausea for the first half of the trip.
 
TruffulaTree said:
so the water + crushing them somehow removes the poison?
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Poison? if you are referring to the cyanide glycosides then no, this is much much more complicated. There is no poison in these the water is simply extracting the alkaloid content ( and some other fats etc.. ) it gives the exact same effect as eating the seeds, however it makes it so it is a small amount of liquid and you do not have to ingest the seeds whole, I said crush them because they will not be active if you just ingest a whole seed.

The cyanide glycosides content is not dangerous for the human body, there is not enough in these seeds to worry about. So I guess you could define them as a poison, however theres probly more gasoline in the water you drink then cyanide content in these seeds.
 
TruffulaTree said:
I meant the stuff that makes you nauseous and could possibly make me throw up. I'd like to avoid that if at all possible
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The only way I have ever accomplished this is with an isopropyl extraction, and actually insufflating the extract. Here is an example of what I had to do to get to that point it is a lot of work.
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/667662-Best-LSA-tek-hands-down

(Keep in mind I wrote that 6 months ago, some parts can be left out)

What is your tripping history, what have you taken? I have spoke with many experienced pysconauts who absolutely love there first trip on HBWR even though nausea was a part of it, this guy at my local herb store told me if I get super nauseous to put on some really hard metal music and when you puke purge all your evils with it, this actually is quite rewarding. So if you are about to puke start thinking about all your down falls and road blocks in life then throw them up, I know it sounds weird but once you puke you will enter a super Gentile rewarding trip.
 
Here is a TR about chewed but not swallowed HBWR seeds that will interest you. If i had to do these again, i would try it this way to diminish the nausea they always give me when i swallow them grinded and unhusked.

If you have a cannabis tolerance, consider smoking a couple tokes of pure weed WITHOUT tobacco if nausea hits you. Can't recommend this if you're not a frequent smoker, since MJ can drastically modify a trip's direction towards anxiety, paranoia and good ol' freak out.
If MJ's not an option, i've heard good things about chewing ginger to help fight nausea.

Anyhow, tread carefully with dosage, i would recommend 3 seeds as a starting dose to gauge their potency. I learned the hard way, usually eating between 10-15 without any big problems, 'til i got the most potent seeds ever, and overdosed with only 6. And let me tell you that a HBWR overdose is one hell of an friggin unpleasant time... better respect them before they teach you to...
 
I've done mushrooms 4 times, 4-FMP a bunch of times, DXM a couple times, and cannabis a bunch (but never any high dosage). mushies are pretty much my only experience with psychedelics thus far.

I live in amsterdam, so you come across these seeds in all the smartshops. I'll post some pics of the packages they came in later (the guy sold me two different types that have LSA, one pack has less seeds but they're apparently stronger). The guy at the smartshop said that I should read about it more on the internet but that soaking them in water for 30-45 mins, crushing them up, and then mixing them into your drink should work. he didn't mention anything about nausea.
 
Ive always heard that u crush it, soak it in everclear, and drink it. But ive also heard its mainly a body high, and its not extremely rewarding. Sounds like u might be better off just doing something else entirely unless u wanna get nauseous.
 
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