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Can anyone give me some opinions on Kratom?

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frontbluntt

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Will it recreate an opiate experience for someone who indulges in opiates once every two weeks or so? (like 30mg hydro) Or is it pretty much worthless?
 
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That depends on a lot of factors.

If by "indulge" you mean IV/snorted/smoked usage of big doses of strong full agonist opiates (morphine, heroin , >30mg oxycodone), you will need a lot of kratom to get a buzz and it will not be anything like sniffing an OC.

If you're talking about ~20mg of oral hydrocodone a dose, then yeah it will be pleasant.

The important thing to remember is kratom has actions on the adrenergic system and can play with blood pressure/act as a stimulant depending on strain and dosage in addition to its opioid effects. It will never be a true replacement for full agonist opiates, even if it can be pleasurable.
 
yeah im talking about like a 30mg hydro user.

Does it really feel like an opiate? Or is it just slightly similar? I just don't want to have my hopes too high
 
it is not an opiate. its closer related to coffee than anything. It is a mu-opoid receptor agonist as well as antagonist. It is more of a spiritually stimulating substance rather than that noddy feeling you get on synthetic opiates.

you will still be able to feel it if you have a 30mg hydro tolerance. It is NOT an opiate though so you might still have some withdrawals or you may feel something is missing from the experience.
 
Kratom is an opioid leaf. 7-OHM is the primary alkaloid and is an opioid. Kratom both works to ward off opiate withdrawal as well as cause opioid dependence.

I'd say 30mg hydrocodone is about the closest thing you can relate to kratom. There are other effects on top of the opioid effect, but the experience altogether is still an opioid experience IMO. For this effect you'll probably need to eat upwards of 5g of a decent leaf or an equivalent dose by other means.

I'm moving this to BDD as it's a basic drug question.
 
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