Alcohol Can alcohol be classed as a dissociative/escapism based drug?

[Shady's Fox]

If it alters your brain then yeah. But other than that, not much science needed, speaks for itself.

 

[ghostandthedarknes]

If it alters your brain then yeah. But other than that, not much science needed, speaks for itself.

pretty much. but enough aspirin will alter your mind.

 

[Shady's Fox]

pretty much. but enough aspirin will alter your mind.

that's our first drug iirc

 

[negrogesic]

Ugh, Smirnoff is some nasty shit IMO.

Not much different than others.

Its all poison.

I drink about 150ml of ethanol per night in various forms, frequently includes vodka. The brand isnt particularly relevant though somewhat.

I dont find alcohol particularly dissociative. I get the visual static from it that i get from dissociatives, and clearly the analgesic properties from very high doses feel NMDA mediated, but never have i experienced profound psychomimetic effects from ethanol even at very high doses (nothing even approaching light n2o psychosis). The truth is, ethanol is more of a GABA-A positive allosteric modulator than it is a NMDA-antagonist but its GABA-A properties probably moderate its NMDA antagonist associated psychomimetic properties while enhancing its anesthetic properties

 

[X11400]

I wouldn't even count on ethanol being the least harmful of all alcohols of less than 6 carbon atoms and one hydroxyl group. Something like 2-methyl-2-butanol doesn't produce reactive aldehydes as a metabolite, but it's more dangerous if someone incorrectly thinks it should be drank at the same dose level as ethanol.

Same with isopropanol.

 

[X11400]

If we want to be smartasses, table sugar is an alcohol, in fact there's 8 of 'em in sucrose.

It’s a sugar...

 

[X11400]

He's British. That should answer your question.

Wot?

 

[emkee_reinvented]

pretty much. but enough aspirin will alter your mind.

Humilis Lupilius or Hop alters the mind.

 

[ghostandthedarknes]

Humilis Lupilius or Hop alters the mind.

anything will at high enough doses. what's your point?

 

[Fire&Water]

You prefer Hop over Gruit?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gruit

Without a doubt
hops are an excellent relaxant

 

[emkee_reinvented]

Without a doubt
hops are an excellent relaxant

Man boob's are a side effect, be carefull with the dosage

 

[emkee_reinvented]

anything will at high enough doses. what's your point?

It was mainly a reaction to Aspirin gettin one high, which it doesn't.

So I mentioned Hop, it is a sedative (i read) for some and resembles a female hormone. If i am correct. But it certainly doesn't work on me. Aspirin idem.

 

[emkee_reinvented]

anything will at high enough doses. what's your point?

My point would be why use Hop, an active substance on its own. With some rather femalistic side effect. Growing tit's.

When Gruit is available and tasty?

 

[Fire&Water]

... mine look part concrete

yeah, they also supposedly have a negative effect on testosterone