Hi guys am new here. Been lurking around for a bit and thought I chime in.
I have to say I agree with Salina here. At the moment I am taking subutex at 0.8mg. I first started sub at 2008 and tapered off in 2010, but needless to say the WDs and these P.A.W.S were too much for me. I did a thorough wean too and jumped off from approximately 0.25 or even lower, this process took me almost a year having inducted at 8mg. I too did not feel much symptoms when I was weaning, just bit of mental uncomfort but it was doable, I thought I was doing well because I was weaning down slowly and all was going according to plan. 2 weeks later "BAM" WDs creep up on me, this lasted 1 month, then the devil P.A.W.S came on to me like a ton of bricks. I was still having P.A.W.S 4 months out until I made the decision to go back on subutex. I do not know what I will do this time around.
I do not think everybody who goes through WDs and P.A.W.S post their experience, I know sometimes I was too embarrassed to admit what I was going through and even a bit ashamed because I thought I did everything right.
I also did exercise during my time on sub and post-sub, though I could not do much when I tapered off sub because I always got sore and it did nothing to help me to sleep at all, if anything made me worse. Its virtually impossible to do any vigerious excercise when your in the midst of withdrawals. You will not be able to do any cardio or excercise properly if you are not sleeping well, not just that but you need to go past the acute withdrawals first before doing anything intense, its just too hard and am regular sports fanatic too and only in my 20s...
I have to say I agree with Salina here. At the moment I am taking subutex at 0.8mg. I first started sub at 2008 and tapered off in 2010, but needless to say the WDs and these P.A.W.S were too much for me. I did a thorough wean too and jumped off from approximately 0.25 or even lower, this process took me almost a year having inducted at 8mg. I too did not feel much symptoms when I was weaning, just bit of mental uncomfort but it was doable, I thought I was doing well because I was weaning down slowly and all was going according to plan. 2 weeks later "BAM" WDs creep up on me, this lasted 1 month, then the devil P.A.W.S came on to me like a ton of bricks. I was still having P.A.W.S 4 months out until I made the decision to go back on subutex. I do not know what I will do this time around.
I do not think everybody who goes through WDs and P.A.W.S post their experience, I know sometimes I was too embarrassed to admit what I was going through and even a bit ashamed because I thought I did everything right.
I also did exercise during my time on sub and post-sub, though I could not do much when I tapered off sub because I always got sore and it did nothing to help me to sleep at all, if anything made me worse. Its virtually impossible to do any vigerious excercise when your in the midst of withdrawals. You will not be able to do any cardio or excercise properly if you are not sleeping well, not just that but you need to go past the acute withdrawals first before doing anything intense, its just too hard and am regular sports fanatic too and only in my 20s...