Camping, would dosing LSD twice in a day be worth it?

[MrMikeyv328]

Have the opportunity to go camping for new years. Have some good blotter, molly, dmt, and plenty of great bud. Two of us had the idea of dropping two tabs within the hour upon waking, and dropping a .2 of molly two hours later. At some point smoke a little dmt. The second idea of tripping through the night into the new year. Would dropping another two tabs on the come down say 6-8 hours later, be worth it? Its not about the intensity or getting back up to where i was during the day, we just want to keep the ride going. Any suggestions or thoughts are appreciated. Thanks everyone!

 

[ColtDan]

no, wouldnt bother dropping more tabs on the molly come down. save it for another time

 

[MrMikeyv328]

Third idea.. What about taking the second round of tabs and the molly after the first two?

 

[ColtDan]

could be a good idea. just dont mix phycs with molly come downs

 

[Ismene]

It would be a waste of time taking LSD for a second time - you wouldn't even feel it. The E would work ok.

 

[Fieldy]

I dosed lsd twice the 1st time i tripped, i took it 8 hours after the first dose and still have great effects!!! :-D

 

[Ismene]

Yeah you had great effects from your first dose but the only effect the second dose had on you was in your imagination. LSD has already occupied your receptors so you just pissed the second dose out.

 

[2c-goinsane]

I would eat all the lsd at once or eat it all in a short amount of time if your comfortable with lsd and if your sure its lsd and not any rcs. when mixing lsd with mdma I like to wait till my lsd is fading away nicely always or else my mdma wont work that well n ill feel very upset about wasting good mdma, it has happened to me a couple times dropping my mdma to close to my lsd. Maybe thats just me though who knows. I always eat mdma after the psychedelic to, I learned the hardway and ate really potent mushrooms coming down from 200-220mg mdma which led to major breathing problems, definitley freaked out because I felt like I was soficating. The breathing issues on top of seeing eyes/faces etc. and having some crazy irrational out there thoughts it was pretty damn scarey but I pulled through and the experience has made me what I would call smarter. If youll be camping also make sure to take enough things to keep warm

take it easy and enjoy your nye everyone!

 

[MrMikeyv328]

Thanks Everyone for the tips! I am 100% positive it is not a RC.
Lets see if one more question can be answered, and like i said, it is not about the intensity or getting two strong trips in one day, just want to see if theres an option to extend our trip into the night for the new years, or if we should just have one solid trip into the night.

What is everyones suggestion about mushrooms in the morning and lsd+molly towards the night? Would mushrooms be a cross tolerances with lsd? It would only be 2 grams within the hour after waking up, to hike the trails and explore nature.

 

[Survived Abortion]

^You could do that definitely, but expect a drop in intensity of the apparent effects of the LSD.

Yeah you had great effects from your first dose but the only effect the second dose had on you was in your imagination. LSD has already occupied your receptors so you just pissed the second dose out.

So you are saying that LSD can't even compete with itself? Sorry man, that's rubbish. Sure they'll be some tolerance from what's going on inside the neurons, but the actual effects will be extended, and may be slightly boosted again.

 

[Ismene]

So you are saying that LSD can't even compete with itself?

Obviously. Once the receptors are occupied they can't be reoccupied. There are only so many receptors in the human brain. Once they are all occupied anything else is simply urinated out of your body.


but the actual effects will be extended, and may be slightly boosted again.

Have you ever tried it? I have - I took 600 mics about 7 hours after taking 300mics. Didn't feel a thing and the trip wasn't extended. It had no effect whatsoever.

 

[Survived Abortion]

Obviously. Once the receptors are occupied they can't be reoccupied. There are only so many receptors in the human brain. Once they are all occupied anything else is simply urinated out of your body.

Yes but this only happens when you reach saturation levels. Anything less than that and there is always room for more.

Have you ever tried it?

I have actually, 1 hit a couple of hours after the peak from 4 strong hits from a different batch. I know what you're gonna say; it was all in my mind. I felt a boost in the intensity of the plateau, and an extension of the overall trip. Mock if you want to, but I don't see how this is any different than redosing on any other psychedelic. I can't explain why you didn't feel a 600ug redose after an inital 300ug dose.

 

[Ismene]

Yes but this only happens when you reach saturation levels. Anything less than that and there is always room for more.

No, it doesn't work like that. You can't take LSD 7 hours into a trip and bring back the psychedelic effects. It simply doesn't work. If it did we'd all be going on 36 hour trips. It's a function of the time after the first dose as well.


I have actually, 1 hit a couple of hours after the peak from 4 strong hits from a different batch.

A couple of hours and you might be ok, at a push. 7 hours and you've no chance.


I can't explain why you didn't feel a 600ug redose after an inital 300ug dose

I think all the receptors were occupied.

 

[IamMe90]

All the receptors could not be occupied or taking higher doses of psychedelics wouldn't produce stronger effects, that doesn't make any sense. If the receptors haven't reached the saturation level, how can they all be occupied?

 

[Ancientknowledge]

Everyone's different... Ive heard this subject argued over and over again on forums, by friends, etc. and every time it ends up going back and forth, yes it works, no it doesnt, science mumbo jumbo this, last weekend that.


Why dont you give some variety to your day? Wake up, go on a hike, find somewhere cool to blast off, smoke some dmt, bask in the beauty of nature, come back, eat some food, smoke some weed, then drop dose later in the afternoon, enjoy the sunset and eat some molly on the come down, that should have you satisfied all day and a good portion of the night.



Then again if you really want to fry all day do it, take a fat dose, then re-dose on your plateau, if anything i would imagine the re-dose would extend your plateau... Even if it's only "placebo" who cares, it's not like your going to know the difference.

 

[Ismene]

All the receptors could not be occupied or taking higher doses of psychedelics wouldn't produce stronger effects

They don't produce stronger effects after 7 hours tho - that's the whole point. I've taken 600mics and not noticed any difference whatsoever. How do you explain it?

If the receptors haven't reached the saturation level, how can they all be occupied?

I don't think it works like that - I think LSD will occupy all the receptors available at pretty low doses. I don't think you have to take a thumbprint to occupy all the receptors. Taking a bigger initial dose obviously has a stronger effect for some reason. Although having said that Tim Leary always said that if he told someone he was giving them 250mics he could give them a far higher dose and they never knew the difference. Your imagination obviously plays a big part in it too.

 

[Ismene]

Everyone's different...

I'm not sure, I've not heard of many people redosing after 7 hours and it being like the trip starting all over again. If you could do that I think everyone would be doing it wouldn't they. Every 7 hours we just drop another few blotters and be tripping for the entire weekend.

if anything i would imagine the re-dose would extend your plateau...

Not for me it didn't - 600 mics had no effect whatsoever. The trip ended at the same point as if I'd never taken it. Perhaps I was awake for an hour or two longer on the comedown but nothing more. Certainly no enhancement to the trip.

 

[Survived Abortion]

I don't think it works like that - I think LSD will occupy all the receptors available at pretty low doses. I don't think you have to take a thumbprint to occupy all the receptors. Taking a bigger initial dose obviously has a stronger effect for some reason. Although having said that Tim Leary always said that if he told someone he was giving them 250mics he could give them a far higher dose and they never knew the difference. Your imagination obviously plays a big part in it too.

So let me get this straight: what you're saying is that the saturation point of LSD is very low, around 250 mics (because Leary said so), but you can also feel initial stronger effects from a higher dose? Come on dude, use your noggin!

 

[Ismene]

No, that's not what I said. You didn't get it straight. Read it again and think about it for a bit longer.

Incidentally, if you look at the number of LSD molecules in just a single microgram of LSD it comes out to something like 150 quadrillion (150 thousand billion). That's just in one microgram, not 250. My feeling is that the brain might not need that many micrograms of LSD molecules to fill it's receptors.

 

[Survived Abortion]

Incidentally, if you look at the number of LSD molecules in just a single microgram of LSD it comes out to something like 150 quadrillion (150 thousand billion). That's just in one microgram, not 250. My feeling is that the brain might not need that many micrograms of LSD molecules to fill it's receptors.

And most of those molecules are not in the brain at any one time. Think about it logically. Most of the LSD molecules are in the rest of the body, circulating in the blood stream and being metabolized constantly. And even the many molecules that are in the brain are nowhere near 5HT2a receptor sites any one given moment.

No, that's not what I said. You didn't get it straight. Read it again and think about it for a bit longer.

Okay:

I think LSD will occupy all the receptors available at pretty low doses.

So let me get this straight: what you're saying is that the saturation point of LSD is very low...

Although having said that Tim Leary always said that if he told someone he was giving them 250mics he could give them a far higher dose and they never knew the difference.

...around 250 mics...

I don't think you have to take a thumbprint to occupy all the receptors. Taking a bigger initial dose obviously has a stronger effect for some reason.

but you can also feel initial stronger effects from a higher dose?

Yes, I think I got that straight!

You are saying that although you believe LSD occupies all receptors (saturation) at low doses, you are still able to feel doses higher than that. Which is absurd. The reason why you can feel higher doses is because saturation occurs at much higher levels than most people imbibe.