Is there any word on what may be in the products marketed as camfetamine?
The vendor I use I don't think is 'official', but I have never had a complaint about his wares. Whatever it is its pretty smooth stuff, as long as one doesn't overuse it and do too large doses.
I wonder if its causing the release of DA in the nigrostriatal tract, because after I'V-ing about 3-4g in two days, I started experiencing gross motor coordination, muscle weakness and tremors/shaking uncontrollably, mainly arms and hands, but legs were also affected. Thats wearing off now to degree, Pulse elevated but of no concern, At least my product seems to be relatively free of cardiovascular push although there was some at higher dosage levels. Of more concern, at least to me, is the tremors, not talking just a bit shaky, as can happen with many stimulants but full-blown parkinson's disease-like dystonia and violent shaking of the extremities.
To the point where I couldn't pour myself a drink and there was no way in hell I could have made a rollup when I wanted a smoke. I took 3-4mg of loprazolam earlier though, and 3x192mg chlormethiazole capsules, as well as my usual pain meds, albeit ground up, chopped with a razorblade and dissolved in water for sticking up the chocolate starfish. did drink a few mojitos earlier also.
I suspect there is some sort of byproduct in the product, as it seems to have a fairly irritant nature. Miss a shot and it burns like crazy, and likewise the first time I bought any (different vendor very similar product although the stuff I have now is really clumpy and appears slightly hygroscopic, the contents of the bag are a mixture of powder and solid chunks. Snorted a dose of 30mg-40 at first to test it, and owch jesus, that stuff burned worse than virola or cebil snuff, and caused quite lasting pain, during the effect of the drug. A further 100mg was insufflated later, no side effects other than some bruxism. Quite a pleasant ride, not too pushy, moderately helpful in getting stuff done at lower doses, dosing much higher over the last 2 days is another matter entirely.Again not too pushy, relatively little cardiac effects that I noticed but a very peculiar sensation of great weight located in one's head, until I took the benzos and chlormethiazole, with their myorelaxant properties, I actually couldn't lift my head at all, other than moving it manually, if I wanted to see something I had to support my neck with my hands and turn my head around by moving it with my hands again.
Another side effect was blurring of vision, which hasn't completely worn off. Oddly, whilst I am not terribly hungry, it seems to lack the strong anorexic effect of meth, MDMA, AMT or amphetamine, on any of those I physically can't eat at all, the very thought of food makes me cringe (excluding AMT, I find I am always hungry on the tail end of an AMT trip.
Watch it with camphetamine, if thats what it actually is, I have a distinct feeling that people who misuse it could get burnt quite badly, especially those used to several-day stimulant benders, I reckon it has the potential to be a lot more harmful to the health than some sleep deprivation, temporary paranoia and seeing spiders everywhere.
Side effects aside, this material has to be one of my favourite stimulants yet tried, just so long as the dose isn't too large, if its overdone I think the adverse effects may well be severel. Regular dose levels on the other hand, 100-150mg nasally gave a reasonably long lasting smooth effect with no comedown afterwards.
It appears to be quite a potent vasocontrictor, as it got to the point where I was completely unable to register when inserting a needle into a vein, tried for hours to no avail. Didn't help that I bent several needles thanks to the uncontrollable shaking and tossed more than one bottle cap full of the drug solution on the floor. Perhaps from some metabolite.
And when I say irritant, this stuff SERIOUSLY needs recrystallizing before any further use, I just missed several injections of it, thanks to a really crappy brand of syringe and its left a great sodding welt like a bee or wasp sting does, doesn't feel much better than a wasp sting either. Its beem severa; hours since the first signs of the tremor shows and there is a slight improvement in that I have most of the movement of my left arm, still can't pick things up with my more severely affected right arm, oddly, keeping my arm and hand on a flat surface helps stop or at least help lessen it. But when my arms are elevated then they start shaking like crazy.
Ive just talen 4x192mg chlormethiazole capsules, and some pregabalin along with 80mg of oxy, hopefully that will lessen, or stop the tremor altogether. I strongly suspect that there may be a toxic byproduct of synthesis present, I can't see something like what is the N-methyl homolog of fencamfamine being such acrid, caustic stuff, we wwould have heard something about fencamfamine otherwise seeing how its seen clinical use. I hope cleaning it up will fix the problem with the remainder of my 5g bag, as its a pretty nice stimulant, and I am not usually a fan of uppers at all, I can't stand most of them.
I think I will get onto my supplier about this and let him know that it may be contaminated. If anyone wishes to analyse this stuff via NMR or GC/MS I would be willing to send out a small sample if asked by PM. I'll ask about the synthetic route taken to the end product, if its produced via a nitroalkene in a knoevanagel/henry reaction, some of those substituted nitro derivatives of the starting aldehyde are very irritating, but AFAIK they are insoluble in H2O, although I know its the case for 2C-Ds intermediate nitroalkene, 2,5-dimethoxy-4-methyl-beta-nitro ethene, its pretty much completely insoluble in water, yet this camfetamine is pretty soluble in hot or cold water.
DO !!!NOT!!! USE THIS CLUMPY, ROCKY STUFF FOR IV WITHOUT RECRYSTALLIZATION! that may not help, but I am of the opinion that its a contaminant rather than an inherent property of N-CH3-fencamfamine, differences in physico-chemical effects between one molecule and another higher homolog don't generally differ that radically, as far as purely physical properties go.