Calling Old School Meth Users, How Has It Changed?

[andyturbo]

No, unfortunately it is not a rumor. I found out first hand by going to the needle ex. They had testing kits they were giving out and they tested it right in front of my eyes sure enough it came up positive for fent.

It wouldn't surprise me in the US and Canada. Luckily in Australia fentanyl is almost never ever seen, even in heroin let alone methamphetamine. Thank god for S.E Asian crime syndicates having good business ethics as opposed too the Mexican cartels.

 

[andyturbo]

To add in Australia (Melbourne) the overall feeling of shard has increased dramatically from 2020-2022. Not quite as good (euphoria, taste, cleaness) as the 2000-2010 period but significantly better than 2015-2019..

In the last decade we have seen a huge drop in locally produced methamphetamine from 1% MC's ect too Massive quantity imports from southeast asian crime syndicates using the same smuggling and importation chains they have long established for there Heroin supply (which is some if not the best heroin in world..consistently 90%+ purity #4 Heroin mass produced in the Golden Triangle)

Today we see middle level distribution from 1% MC's (and others) choosing to purchase directly from the Asian syndicates as opposed too locally manufacturing themselves.

 

[DeathIndustrial88]

Im sure there are isolated cases of people cutting meth with fentanyl.


But I've had plenty of inexperienced people come to me & tell me their meth is cut with fentanyl, when it really isn't.
Most of the time people mistake falling asleep on it or after a big hit as meaning there's "fent" in it, yet the same thing happens to me with regular meth a lot.
Especially if you've already been up for a day or two and all your neurotransmitters are low. You're going to get paraoxical sedation if you take a big hit & your brain is already low on neurotransmitters.

Meth is pretty addictive all on it's own. Putting an extreme downer narcotic into seems counterproductive if the customer is looking for stimulation.
I'm sure an experienced tweaker is gonna notice something different about the effects immediately.

I'm not saying this doesn't happen, but it seems unlikely that it's happening as often as people believe it is.


Where are all the overdoses from this fent tainted meth then?
I dunno about everyone else, but when me & my friends did meth, we smoked big ass rocks. Way more of a dose than what you would need for fentanyl. If there's indeed fentanyl in it, then smoking that much, plus the tolerance/potentiation effect from the meth would be causing fentanyl overdoses left & right.


Again, I'm not saying it can't or doesn't happen, just that IME & IMO it's not as big a thing as people make it out to be. And a lot of inexperienced people like believing their meth is cut with fent because it makes them look "cooler" and "more hardcore".

Personally, if I was a dealer, I'd sell both separate & make double the profit.
Not to mention if you're using good crystal, your meth should already be in a crystalline state.
It's rather hard to "cut" something if it's already in a solid rock form, unless you crush into a powder.
That would be the only way I could see people cutting it with fent is mixing both powders. Otherwise that fent is just gonna slide right off those crystals.

Best way to avoid any dirty cuts in your meth would be to never accept it in powder form. There's plenty of real ice/crystal out there, that dealing "powdered" meth is just unacceptable these days anyway.

Anyway, I have no doubt other drugs get tainted with fentanyl. Especially if a dealer weights all the shit up on the same scales.
But people deliberately putting fentanyl into meth just seems unlikely, unless that person is an idiot or TRYING to kill people.


It reminds me of when inexperienced people would smoke weed, get too fucked up & then SWEAR it was cut with PCP or something. lol Meth can & does cause sedative narcotic-like effects on it's own, depending on the person, their personal chemistry & the amount of available neurotransmitters to release. Some mistake these paradoxical effects as meaning there must be "fent" in it.

 

[NewGenZetas]

It wouldn't surprise me in the US and Canada. Luckily in Australia fentanyl is almost never ever seen, even in heroin let alone methamphetamine. Thank god for S.E Asian crime syndicates having good business ethics as opposed too the Mexican cartels.

Well in 2020 there was 7 people in Sydney who did experience fentanyl overdoses from the fentanyl contaminated stimulants they had taken and the
2020 study from the Australian Institute of Criminology found that about if there is fentanyl contamination in the Australian illegal drug market found that there was a small number of police detainees that tested positive for both Methamphetamine and fentanyl which they denied having have taken suggesting that the Methamphetamine might have been contaminated . Also this year there 12 people were hospitalized in New Zealand from cocaine contaminated fentanyl overdose.

The deadly opioid fentanyl is turning up in disguise on Sydney streets, making illicit drug use even riskier

Fentanyl has been a prime culprit in the opioid crisis in the United States. It’s now turning up in cocaine and methamphetamine in New South Wales.

theconversation.com

Is there fentanyl contamination in the Australian illicit drug market?

This research investigates fentanyl use among police detainees participating in the Drug Use Monitoring in Australia program. Three percent of respondents tested positive to fentanyl and/or norfentanyl during urinalysis, and 11 percent reported lifetime fentanyl use. Nonprescribed fentanyl use...

www.aic.gov.au

New Zealand ‘grossly underprepared’ as deadly drug fentanyl causes string of overdoses | New Zealand | The Guardian

Twelve people needed medical attention after overdosing on the drug, which had been sold as cocaine

amp.theguardian.com

These overdose and people testing positive for fentanyl is most likely because of the increase in Mexican Cartel Crystal Meth being trafficked to Australia and making up more of the ICE people consume in Australia.

755kg of methamphetamine imported from Mexico in cow hides | Australian Federal Police

Australian authorities have seized 755kg of crystal methamphetamine (ice) hidden inside raw animal hides, stopping more than 7.5 million individual deals reaching Melbourne streets.

www.afp.gov.au

Mexico-Australia Meth Connection Reveals Fresh Crime Dynamics

Mexico crime groups are targeting Australia, where high methamphetamine prices are attracting traffickers willing to negotiate the long and difficult journey with other syndicates.

insightcrime.org

 

[andyturbo]

Well in 2020 there was 7 people in Sydney who did experience fentanyl overdoses from the fentanyl contaminated stimulants they had taken and the
2020 study from the Australian Institute of Criminology found that about if there is fentanyl contamination in the Australian illegal drug market found that there was a small number of police detainees that tested positive for both Methamphetamine and fentanyl which they denied having have taken suggesting that the Methamphetamine might have been contaminated . Also this year there 12 people were hospitalized in New Zealand from cocaine contaminated fentanyl overdose.

The deadly opioid fentanyl is turning up in disguise on Sydney streets, making illicit drug use even riskier

Fentanyl has been a prime culprit in the opioid crisis in the United States. It’s now turning up in cocaine and methamphetamine in New South Wales.

theconversation.com

Is there fentanyl contamination in the Australian illicit drug market?

This research investigates fentanyl use among police detainees participating in the Drug Use Monitoring in Australia program. Three percent of respondents tested positive to fentanyl and/or norfentanyl during urinalysis, and 11 percent reported lifetime fentanyl use. Nonprescribed fentanyl use...

www.aic.gov.au

New Zealand ‘grossly underprepared’ as deadly drug fentanyl causes string of overdoses | New Zealand | The Guardian

Twelve people needed medical attention after overdosing on the drug, which had been sold as cocaine

amp.theguardian.com

These overdose and people testing positive for fentanyl is most likely because of the increase in Mexican Cartel Crystal Meth being trafficked to Australia and making up more of the ICE people consume in Australia.

755kg of methamphetamine imported from Mexico in cow hides | Australian Federal Police

Australian authorities have seized 755kg of crystal methamphetamine (ice) hidden inside raw animal hides, stopping more than 7.5 million individual deals reaching Melbourne streets.

www.afp.gov.au

Mexico-Australia Meth Connection Reveals Fresh Crime Dynamics

Mexico crime groups are targeting Australia, where high methamphetamine prices are attracting traffickers willing to negotiate the long and difficult journey with other syndicates.

insightcrime.org

Very isolated incidents, I was talking in general. Fentanyl is extremely rare.

Yes, there is a small amount of Mexican imported meth however it makes up a very very small percentage of meth in circulation.

 

[andyturbo]

While members of Outlaw Motorcycle Clubs who are involved in the Illegal Drug Trade have gotten Crystal Meth from Asian Organised Crime Syndicates the current Crystal Meth they are dealing in and distributing (at least in Melbourne) is Mexican in origin.

Sorry but I know for a fact that is not true. Perhaps there has been a few purchases but I am certain the big 5 who *may* be involved in that business source from Asian crime syndicates. I am not going to go into how I know this on here obviously.

 

[negrogesic]

Bump.

This matters now more than ever. I’m working with some people to help solve this. Anyone and everyone experiencing this phenomenon please report on how it’s changed. I’m particularly interested to hear from people who experience good and bad batches.

-GC

Recently I purchased a bunch of fake adderall tablets (fully knowing that they contained methamphetamine). They seemed variably dosed, but it definitely felt like d-meth to me. Not any different than meth I've consumed orally years ago (both illicit and via a desoxyn script)

Not a big fan of the effect, just needed some since I was low on actual dextroamphetamine. Meth is definitely far more euphoric than dextroamphetamine but the serotonin release makes it less functional. While it feels nice it makes me feel dumb.

 

[FallenOne86]

I’m sure it’s already been mentioned before and when I say “it’s” I mean the good ole biker crank peanut butter gak you know the yum yum the go go the good shit that made your dick go from 7 inches to 2 inches for some of THOSE guys or for guys like me did the opposite and there was no shrinking so you went from 9 inches to what looks like 15 fucking inches and let’s not forget the girth! How many guys can admit them.. fuck no I ain’t the only one. Maybe the other guys are classy and have some respect but I’m not being a sleaze ball I’m keeping it real. And any lady is reading this right now I do apologize. This ain’t me bragging about how big your dick got. I’ve always happy or content with 9 inches. Ladies never complained I don’t if that’s good or not I wanna say it’s good. I don’t know what the average dick size is and never went out of my way to know because I’m heterosexual and also because I learned from the time I went to try out for porn when the owners wife of hardpickle films came on a little too strong after they made me take off my clothes to take pictures let’s just say her reaction was comforting and an ego boost but it quickly turned extremely uncomfortable and she was really threatening when I wouldn’t sign the contract after reading the fine print and them showing me around and me thinking about what I was even doing there and what I wanted out of it. I was 19 and curious and she ended up with a restraining order I’m surprised how pushy she was and how her husband didn’t tell her to settle down but encouraged her almost. Most dysfunctional marriage I’ve ever seen but they shut down productions and that’s over with. Sorry. Okay back to the meth.

As far as side effects there’s a few.. like lack of euphoria and lack of energy/motivation.. unless you’re one of those people that can convince yourself is us amazing and just what you’re looking for. The majority seem that way. I guess I’m stuck being 100 percent honest with life so I’ll always be a 36 year old man trapped in a 90 year old cynical fuck of an old granpa mindset miserable all the time lmaoo oh it’s great. Wouldn’t recommend it.

Anyways what I was gonna say is the forgetfulness.. the almost Alzheimer’s like side effect is very present in todays meth which is something I can speak of at least in my experience. And I remember how it was when I first started all the way up to 2016. I had been clean for 6 straight years back in 2010 then after my divorce bought some from a legit source and even went back to report to him what had happened and it wasn’t his fault cuz he had gotten clean and went out of his way to hook me up so it’s not like I was gonna make him try some just so he would agree with me and be equally as bummed if not more because I’d also convince him to ruin his sobriety but he felt bad and got me another source and I told him not to cuz I wasn’t desperate for any more I was just disappointed it’s gotten this bad. Ever since then I’ve expected different results and even met a celebrity or two that does this on the down low that’s why I’m not gonna mention names because you wouldn’t believe the two that do this. I am still baffled even though I see them from time to time when they’re not too busy living that awesome Hollywood life sometimes but for both of them and I believe them both when they tell me they love the money.. money is good.. but with all the fame and cameras on you and so much fucking fans and paparazzi they wish they were just regular people and miss being someone not famous. And I asked them why? Doesn’t it feel good to go somewhere and getting noticed by someone ? Wouldn’t you rather someone know you then not know you? And they both answered similar and this was separate times because I don’t think they have met and the age gap. But they said they feel more alone now than they have ever felt before Hollywood. I let that sink in for a moment. Isn’t it crazy how celebrities feel this way. But maybe it isn’t crazy at all and the rest of us don’t truly realize the industry for what it truly is. It’s fucking dark and corrupt and the people running the behind the scenes and running the whole show are scummy people.. some of the worst you can think of. And I’ve only heard from their personal experiences. Fortunately they haven’t had to deal with Harvey Weinstein so thank God for that.

And I’m getting off topic and that was gonna be my other point I was going to make and end it after this cuz I’m already irritated as fuck. So yes, meth from back in the day does make a person scatter brain and make them talk a mile a minute and all over the place touching on so many different topics and spaz out like a complete crack head or meth head in this case. But I had adhd and have had it since early childhood. Old school meth has never made me feel the way that I do right now as I’m writing this UNLESS the occasional HUGE DOSE I used to feed myself once in a blue moon or some weekends or every weekend in a month but they had to be a crazy dose like more than a gram all at once and yes there’s nothing to brag about it’s disgusting and I’m sure a doctor would say even concerning I am very well aware that it’s a high dose sometimes close to two grams. Again I’m not showing off because let’s be honest.. this is a powerful drug. And I don’t condone it or feel the need to give it praise or make it seem like it’s glorious to consume high amounts. I’ve had bikers wanna turn their life around after inviting me into their inner circle and showing me their true side. Their “scary world” as kids in school would talk about and me needing to find out for myself because I was always the straight laced choir boy until I decided to go all rebel looking like sid vicious at 17 with my leather motorcycle jacket with a subhumans patch on one side and a Motörhead patch on the other and tight black jeans with my romper stomper boots doc martens red laced which you do have to be careful with a face like mine. I’m white but I’m a mutt. I’m English/Assyrian/Irish/German but the Assyrian in me makes me look ethnic and Assyrians usually go by caucasians when they fill out the census I think as far as I’m aware but they come from Assyria which doesn’t exist anymore but it’s somewhere in the Middle East. They have a pretty cool history that I recently found out about. I never cared to dig deep or ask my parents about who the Assyrians were because after 9/11 the kids all turned their backs on me and called me a sand nigger which fucked me up pretty bad and I don’t know why I’m even sharing this with you guys right now. Today just seems like therapy day for me and I’m such an emotional wreck and I’ve bottled a lot of fucking shit for so long that it’s been waiting to come out and maybe I shouldn’t hold stuff in for so long because I haven’t liked todays outcome I’ve already overwhelmed my family because I was just trying to bond with them because they wanted family time but apparently I said too much and felt like the annoying older son who just talks and doesn’t know when to shut the fuck up.

Point I’m saying is from my own personal experience. Todays meth won’t give you any pleasant side effects and if it does do that.. it’s only going to last for so long. But as far as you doing this drug and expecting to take a long walk from your place of work back to your house which is 5 miles away and you being on the phone with your home boy or home girl telling them “wow that walk did not feel like an hour and a half” (( i think that’s how long it was im not sure I think 5 miles walking for the average guy or girl is an hour and a half but back when the meth was good and actually meth and not cut to shit that 5 mile walk felt like 23-25 minutes breezy and enjoyable. I fucking owned every single person at work yes I will admit I was a cocky son of a bitch back then up until I was doing it so much and raising the dosages and slipping up because of not keeping up with my appearance and eating enough that one day this lady at the grocery store came up to me and aggressively was massaging my face and then her and the friend she was with just looked at each other and started laughing. I was so confused but when I got home I found out the truth about what was so funny. And you know what.. I don’t find any humor when a young person opens their mirror in the bathroom and gets a good side view reflection of their sunken in cheeks and totally new mug staring right back at you. A new face you can’t even recognize and it’s staring back at you and you’re gasping because it’s so new to you. You haven’t had the courage to look at yourself in the mirror because maybe you feel guilty or you’re a shamed. And for me this was all to new.. the not looking in the mirror part. Because ever since I was young I’ve always been too obsessed because of my appearance. And I’m not talking about in a healthy way neither. I’ve always gotten compliments from women and people but I don’t know why and I don’t know if I’ll ever figure out why the fuck I just can’t accept it when people tell me they think I’m good looking. It kills my mom till this day and if I ever commit suicide it will probably be for that reason. I can almost guarantee it.

When 911 happened it affected me when all my friends stopped talking to me. I couldn’t really understand it and I don’t think they did either because they were just kids and it was high school but why blame me for 9/11 I’m not a fucking terrorist and if we are being honest I’m only a fucking quarter Assyrian and they definitely didn’t have anything to do with it and Assyrians are considered caucasian or Caucasoid.. anyone can look that up. I was hurt, upset, angry and confused because you’re judging my fucking face now because it looks “ethnic” all of the sudden and it didn’t matter that I was also Irish and English and German so i took it to heart because ever since then it seems like wherever I go people will love me because I know I’m loveable and I’m confident in saying I’m the life of the party no doubt. But it’s been eating me up realizing I’ll always be the fucking sensitive guy that can’t accept that small percent of people that you’re gonna meet or see that will either tell you they don’t like you or you’ll just feel it in your gut. That’s why I went out if my way to hang with the most racist guys I know that are in the white power movement in my area and rednecks, peckerwoods or just regular blood collar and white collar random white folks that are “more white” I guess you can say than myself because they don’t have a quarter middle eastern in them or a quarter anything else for that matter.

This was years ago and it sounds like the stupidest thing ever and even dangerous and I did put myself in some dangerous situations no doubt. Still don’t know how I got out alive. But I will say I don’t regret it because I got to see those people for who they really are and I found out a lot about then and why some of them are the way they are. They learned something from me and I learned something from them. It had to do with a variety of things and some things were weird and confusing and made us laugh. Because I called one of them peckerwoods out and was out of line because it was just out there and I called myself a sand nigger in the process which stunned them and I said, “Why did it get quiet in here all of the sudden did one of you guys turn black and am I now the racist?” They had a good chuckle at that but I really wasn’t trying to be funny. But I had to listen to them preach to me for an hour about Jews being filthy people and greedy because they chase after the money and this and that. They talked about how most Arabs have big noses and I guess I fit in that category technically if I’m a quarter Assyrian. And I never notice skin color or ethnicity or religion when it comes to people. It gets very unsettling and very fast! To me if you’re a decent human being and I can trust you’re not gonna rob me at gun point then I won’t have to beat you to death with a lead pipe or strangle you to death by crushing your throat with my thumb and I’ve nearly done that a few times to a close friend and who I thought was a fucking robber but turned out was an old child hood friend who wanted to surprise me one time cuz he fell off the face of the planet and wanted to let me know how things are going good in his life but now every time he sees me or has his wife come over they text and when I open the door I’m expecting them right at the door but I open the door and they are standing 20 feet away from the door which looks fucking ridiculous but I understand the impact I had on him when I almost took the last few breaths and his life I get why he’d be terrified it’s a scary feeling. Lucky for me I’d never let a mother fucker try to choke me to death without me trying to get out of it and if his strength overpowers mine there’s always that knife you gotta have on you to stab that mother fucker I’m the stomach good and proper at least 30 to 50 times. For me it’s not like a thriller movie. This is reality. This is your life. Do you wanna die or do you wanna make sure you stab the son of a bitch over and over dont worry about overkill.. you know he’s dead but continue killing him some more. It’s good for you. Healthy even. Maybe you’ve been feeling overwhelmed and have had a lot of stress. Take all that out and give it all to that son of a bitch who wanted you dead a few seconds ago. Give that energy to that sack of shit. Now take three big deep breaths. Come on. Inhale 3 times.. and now exhale and say.. FUCK IT! You did what you had to to survive. Now take off your bloody shirt and wash the blood from your hands or better yet shower off all the evidence and make it look spotless. We don’t need evidence. Right! We don’t have time for prison. Right? Right.. that would only make us more sadistic and we are content with how fucking crazy we are now but any crazier and the world would shut themselves

 

[FallenOne86]

Meant to say shit themselves. I’ll have to finish later my phone is saying it’s having some technical difficulties and I think I totally understand what happened. I let myself open up completely today and people have lost their marbles and completely said fuck that and are hiding from me now shivering in fear. I apologize if I’ve scared anyone. I promise you I am all good. If I got too emotional or too violent i apologize. I’ve just been keeping a lot of shit to myself because I don’t want to overwhelm anyone with my problems. No matter how bad I want it I don’t think I’m ever going to live an ordinary life. I’m always saving a friend from harms way because they feel the need to run their mouths to men far from their kind as far as size goes because they can always count on me to be the hero even if it means risking getting arrested or getting badly injured because I’m far from their size and these fuckers always have the be giant oxes sometimes I think my friends go out and on purpose find the biggest mammoth of a man not even human and test to see if I can handle myself when I fight these guys off. But I will say I’m happy I’ve gotten a break from that and I’m glad my guy friends came to their fucking senses and realized they were way out of fucking line and they were using me at one point and that’s what it was.

It’s one thing to feel good and show off a skill you have. And in this case I can’t say I’m too proud just because I can fight off a couple guys.. no you know what.. fuck being humble.. QUITE a Few guys.. but the last one was pretty brutal. Even though I lost. I think I can honestly say this was the first time I felt like a fucking beast and it’s weird unless you were there to see it cuz even this guy told me he’s never met a guy smaller than him that bad bigger balls than he did. I laughed and looked at him and said, “I’ll take that and agree that my balls are way fucking bigger.. but I don’t know how wise I was cuz you are way too fucking strong and way bigger there’s no way I was gonna beat you in the fight so I had to at least beat you at something so I beat you when it came down to intimidation”

Haha the look on his face was worth every fucking blow to the chin and nose which felt like a hammer I mean this mother fucker had fists the size of my head dude haha he over powered me but I scared him to death near the end.

I was bloodied entirely like my whole face looked like a slasher movie but I have intimidating eyes. I have the face of a GQ model.. I’m not gonna say pretty boy or anything corny like that but I guess it’s decent looking. I look like one of the Gotti boys John Gotti jr the youngest one when they had that show growing up Gotti he was the youngest of the three brothers but anyways I’m not gonna get to finish my story and thank God cuz all you probably hate me now and are fed up with my bullshit ranting and probably want me to kill my self and you know what. Maybe I should. What am I really doing in life right? Am I even helping the world be a peaceful place. I mean I think I am but I’m still holding on to that guilt from when I couldn’t save this 14 year old girls life because she overdosed on heroin. I fucking did everything I could. Ice cube on the forehead and cheeks, pull her tongue out so she doesn’t choke and die, put her in the bathtub and got in with her and turned the water on freezing fucking cold just how both her parents love their showers cold and miserable like their hearts and they wouldn’t let me use the phone to call an ambulance they didn’t want cops involved and it made me question if they had anything to do with it and I almost had them arrested but with good reason because they have both been in an out of rehab but I helped them get clean and I believe them when they told me they’ve stayed clean ever since but you have to question these things. And as much of a “hard ass” as I’m making myself sound like with these experiences and fights I’ve had I’m a genuine person with a big heart. Normally I think that’s a good trait to have.. but when the world eats you alive and puts all this pressure and expects you to do good things.. it comes to a point where it all becomes too much for you. Any empaths? Raise your hand(s)? Can anyone else relate? That 14 year old girl that died in my arms that day was the same little girl I used to hold when she fell asleep in my arms when I used to babysit back when I was young and would babysit her and her little brother when she was 3 and he was 1. Her death impacted me big time.

I think the reason for my emotions being so strong right now is because I’ve always wanted little girls. And my ex wife had a miscarriage and I think today was the day we found out when it happened when the doctor told us and she was far along enough to know we were going to be having twin girls.. and my current girlfriend I’m with can’t have anymore kids because it’s a long story about cancer that I’m not gonna get into because I’m crying like a bitch right now and you know what I can’t do this anymore I’m gonna go I am sorry for ruining your mood and feel free to ban me if you want I understand if I’ve been a pest and I’ll see myself out. Sorry guys/gals.. take care I love you all and wish you nothing but the best and I’ll try to control my emotions. I’ll hit the back or something it just needed to come out because I’ve been a robot and practically dead inside and me as a person I’m far from that. My zodiac sign is cancer for crying out loud haha crying out loud.. I was almost gonna say fucks sake instead and now I just did but I really need to work on my vocabulary. I scored a 1334 on my SATs. I’m an articulate guy.. or I was. Now I’m just angry, cynical and just negative.. I know there’s good things in life but I always point out the negatives because I always feel like if nobody is gonna talk about it and fix it then let me help. Figures.. cancers are the motherly ones of the zodiac sign so I’m gonna die young trying to save everyone before I even get a chance to save myself.. and I’m gonna regret not doing that first and foremost WATCH! I hope I am wrong !

 

[andyturbo]

I’m sure it’s already been mentioned before and when I say “it’s” I mean the good ole biker crank peanut butter gak you know the yum yum the go go the good shit that made your dick go from 7 inches to 2 inches for some of THOSE guys or for guys like me did the opposite and there was no shrinking so you went from 9 inches to what looks like 15 fucking inches and let’s not forget the girth! How many guys can admit them.. fuck no I ain’t the only one. Maybe the other guys are classy and have some respect but I’m not being a sleaze ball I’m keeping it real. And any lady is reading this right now I do apologize. This ain’t me bragging about how big your dick got. I’ve always happy or content with 9 inches. Ladies never complained I don’t if that’s good or not I wanna say it’s good. I don’t know what the average dick size is and never went out of my way to know because I’m heterosexual and also because I learned from the time I went to try out for porn when the owners wife of hardpickle films came on a little too strong after they made me take off my clothes to take pictures let’s just say her reaction was comforting and an ego boost but it quickly turned extremely uncomfortable and she was really threatening when I wouldn’t sign the contract after reading the fine print and them showing me around and me thinking about what I was even doing there and what I wanted out of it. I was 19 and curious and she ended up with a restraining order I’m surprised how pushy she was and how her husband didn’t tell her to settle down but encouraged her almost. Most dysfunctional marriage I’ve ever seen but they shut down productions and that’s over with. Sorry. Okay back to the meth.
n’t need evidence. Right! We don’t have time for prison. Right? Right.. that would only make us more sadistic and we are content with how fucking crazy we are now but any crazier and the world would shut themselves

LOL. Firstly I am glad your comfortable with your penis size. Your very lucky that no woman have complained, you must have by chance slept with the smaller minority with large vaginas. Majority of woman often find anything over 7.5-8 inches painful as most womans cervix wall is 7-8 inches in and that is meant to be extremely painful. Still, its cool too be unique. You are within the 0.6% (6/1000) males with a penis that legth.
"1% of men have a penis between 7–8 inches. 6 in 1000 guys (0.6%) have a 9-inch penis. Just over 0.2% of guys have a penis larger than 9 inches—that's 2 in 1000"

Anyway back on topic lol. Yes meth and MDMA defiantly shrink my penis!

 

[FallenOne86]

LOL. Firstly I am glad your comfortable with your penis size. Your very lucky that no woman have complained, you must have by chance slept with the smaller minority with large vaginas. Majority of woman often find anything over 7.5-8 inches painful as most womans cervix wall is 7-8 inches in and that is meant to be extremely painful. Still, its cool too be unique. You are within the 0.6% (6/1000) males with a penis that legth.
"1% of men have a penis between 7–8 inches. 6 in 1000 guys (0.6%) have a 9-inch penis. Just over 0.2% of guys have a penis larger than 9 inches—that's 2 in 1000"

Anyway back on topic lol. Yes meth and MDMA defiantly shrink my penis!

Hold up.. WHAT!? Are you fucking with me or are you spitting some truth cuz now all these past memories are coming at me like fucking bricks and now I feel horrible!! Wtf dude how did that go over my head!

Is that way a lot of them would tell me shit like, “Can we not have sex today” or “Is it okay if we just cuddle and watch movies” and I never understood why it was always a big deal and why they always made it about sex are girls hornier than guys and always expect sex or is it the other way around and men are always chasing after sex and I kinda missed that part because I’m the romantic type that understands now after so many years of being butt hurt and pissed off that I took it the wrong way instead of understanding what they were going through. I take things personally sometimes and come up with all sorts of things in my head if someone doesn’t tell me what they are thinking. Now I’m a pretty damn good mind reader and I almost never admit this. Rather I enjoy playing dumb and aloof so they don’t notice how good I am because when anyone ever finds out then I get a cling on instead of a friend or if it’s a girl then a girlfriend because a girlfriend I can handle but a legit stage 5 clinger who swears she’s an empath and says to me let’s take our powers and rule the world and by rule she wants to pick apart every single persons brain and anyone that was violent or had thoughts of harming animals or something fucked up and similar to that she would want to seriously kill and bury bodies in the closet. And I remember this girls mother getting a chance to be in the same room as me when her daughter excused herself to use the restroom she told me “My daughter legit needs to be put in a mental institute and in a straight jacket for the rest of her fucking life because she is bipolar and a skitzo just like her fucking father who I stabbed to death with that very same knife you are holding right now. A man as fucking gorgeous as you standing there with your gorgeous lips and your shirt on the ground and your ab cuts with the v line just fucking my mind up as my pussy is gushing so bad right now.. you really think you can tease me like that and I’m let you get away with it without punishing me?” Holy fuck what do you think happened right after that?

The real me would want to say I was a gentleman and didn’t think with my dick but I am human and we feel certain things and this girl was attractive but the second I met her I felt I needed to distance myself because she really was a screw loose and I didn’t know what she’d do to me. Her mom was the more classier fine wine.. fucking beautiful in every way and we had so much more in common we talked about art, politics, designer clothing and fucking kitchen utensils and knitting.. you know not the typical shit a 20 year old thinks or talks about. It was usually fast cars, boxing, football, basketball, women, sex but I have always been the more respectable one out of all my guy friends you would think all these years instead of calling me corny or a suck up they’d actually consider taking a few tips or listening to me when I talked about treating the lady with respect I mean they all had sisters I only have a younger brother but I’d always wished for a sister. Now I’m grateful I never had a syster cuz you ask any friend of mine who has a sister and you’ll hear tons of stories from their sisters about some scaring off boyfriends and I do feel bad cuz I didn’t know some of them were long term commitments and potential husbands but they didn’t wanna risk bumping into me ever but I was easy on them. I mean I didn’t break their leg or anything just had a man to man talk. I have a stupid lovable face I mentioned it already.. I’m fucking soft haha unless I hear you call me soft cuz then it’s fucking over and there was no way out of that.

But fuck going off topic how the hell of why didn’t I see that coming back then that I was hurting these.
This one girl said it felt awkward but so powerful and that was the very first time I felt a squirted cum multiple times. She said that it was emotional for her and she loved it she totally lost me and ruined the “Aww” moment for me because we were doing it doggystyle position cuz the way I’m shaped it’s like a big thick banana and the curve hits the g spot perfectly in that angle and she told me women don’t open up and just like a good hard fuck and I never understood that but 36 years of going through this long confusing fun sad happy mad emotional cluster fuck of a journey I finally found my soul mate who I can have real intimacy with and now it’s fucking with me and pissing me off why I’m on here talking about my past experiences with other women when I’m in a relationship.

Im telling you I can’t stand sober like this. I need to find legit meth not this bunk shit so i can cope with life. I’m not high and I have not dosed today and if I’m like this sober… and it becomes more heavy and emotional..I don’t know if I’ll make it out alive. And I don’t want to pull the trigger if it becomes too much. I need to get some things and find a connect to some pseudoephedrine and start cooking or find a legit source I can’t keep opening up and going on a rampage I need meth to quiet down this fucked up ADHD in me that’s not really me.. sobriety I guess does no good for me.. maybe for some it’s meth that sets them free. Here’s to you government.. FUCK YOU AND YOUR LAWS. THE DAY THAT OUR GOVERNMENT STUCK THEIR NOSES WHERE IT DIDNT BELONG AND VIOLATED OUR RIGHTS WAS THE DAY THAT AMERICA WAS DEAD TO ME.. and I’m gonna leave it at that and hope you guys enjoy the rest of your days and I’m gonna go pray so I can have a safe rest of the day because I’m starting to scare myself right now because things are very unpredictable and that’s scary when you’re sober! Wouldn’t you agree?

 

[deficiT]

Try and stay on topic and not talk about each other's dicks. I'm gonna send this over to DC as I don't think it fits here anymore.

 

[andyturbo]

Well it's hard to accept your word as fact
as the people I am acquaintances with who might be in/associate with the largest MC in Victoria and the Commos, who also have might be involved in that business or serving jail sentences for for being involved with that business, had Mexican product the biggest part of that business.

On the other hand people I may know from Vietnamese-Australian backgrounds who may be involved in that business are using primary asian product in that business in Melbourne.


Seeing as I can't provide online things confirming for pretty obvious reasons I can't expect you to just take my word for it just as I can't accept word for it.

Exactly. Also not smart to name drop clubs on the internet....you should know the rules..or code I should say. Talking about business like that is a huge No...as you should know.
Anyway lets get this thread back on track. Red&Gold till I'm dead and cold.

Recently I purchased a bunch of fake adderall tablets (fully knowing that they contained methamphetamine). They seemed variably dosed, but it definitely felt like d-meth to me. Not any different than meth I've consumed orally years ago (both illicit and via a desoxyn script)

Not a big fan of the effect, just needed some since I was low on actual dextroamphetamine. Meth is definitely far more euphoric than dextroamphetamine but the serotonin release makes it less functional. While it feels nice it makes me feel dumb.

Yeah thats very true. How did you find Desoxyn? Your the first person I have come across thats been prescribed it.

 

[DeathIndustrial88]

I've been doing meth on & off for 20 years.

I dunno if it's cause of the quality change or just my own personal body chemistry, but the shit just isn't fun anymore. I've occasionally come across some good stuff from a rich friend I use to have, but in general, I mean, it can be fun if you wanna be a horny slut & then feel like total ass for a week (or longer, no matter the quality). It's something I find is best left to strictly recreational. I dunno how these people I know who use it daily for years, decades even, can still do it. It just boggles my mind. I'd probably be dead if I used continuously for a year straight, let alone for a decade or two.

Now diacetylmorphine.... that's something I can take daily, enjoy it & even have improved energy & quality of life from it.

 

[JTemperance]

Did anybody else see a recent journal article saying "highly concentrated stimulant samples give false positives on fentanyl strip tests"?

I'll try to find it...

EDIT: Here's a link to the full article (a PDF) & the text of the abstract—

High concentrations of illicit stimulants and cutting agents cause false positives on fentanyl test strips

Background: The opioid epidemic has caused an increase in overdose deaths which can be attributed to fentanyl combined with various illicit substances. Drug checking programs have been started by many harm reduction groups to provide tools for users to determine the composition of their street drugs. Immunoassay fentanyl test strips (FTS) allow users to test drugs for fentanyl by either filling a baggie or cooker with water to dissolve the sample and test. The antibody used in FTS is very selective for fentanyl at high dilutions, a characteristic of the traditional use of urine testing. These street sample preparation methods can lead to mg/mL concentrations of several potential interferents. We tested whether these concentrated samples could cause false positive results on a FTS.

Methods: 20 ng/mL Rapid Response FTS were obtained from BTNX Inc. and tested against 4 different pharmaceuticals (diphenhydramine, alprazolam, gabapentin, and naloxone buprenorphine) and 3 illicit stimulants [cocaine HCl, methamphetamine, and 3,4‑methylenedioxymethamphetamine (MDMA)] in concentrations from 20 to 0.2 mg/mL. The FTS testing pad is divided into 2 sections: the control area and the test area. Control and test area signal intensities were quantified by ImageJ from photographs of the test strips and compared to a threshold set by fentanyl at the FTS limit of detection.

Results: False positive results indicating the presence of fentanyl were obtained from samples of methamphetamine, MDMA, and diphenhydramine at concentrations at or above 1 mg/mL. Diphenhydramine is a common cutting agent in heroin. The street sample preparation protocols for FTS use suggested by many online resources would produce such concentrations of these materials. Street samples need to be diluted more significantly to avoid interference from potential cutting agents and stimulants.

Conclusions: Fentanyl test strips are commercially available, successful at detecting fentanyl to the specified limit of detection and can be a valuable tool for harm reduction efforts. Users should be aware that when drugs and adulterants are in high concentrations, FTS can give a false positive result.

TL;DR: "False positive results indicating the presence of fentanyl were obtained from samples of methamphetamine, MDMA, and diphenhydramine at concentrations at or above 1 mg/mL."

 

[negrogesic]

Did anybody else see a recent journal article saying "highly concentrated stimulant samples give false positives on fentanyl strip tests"?

I'll try to find it...

EDIT: Here's a link to the full article (a PDF) & the text of the abstract—

TL;DR: "False positive results indicating the presence of fentanyl were obtained from samples of methamphetamine, MDMA, and diphenhydramine at concentrations at or above 1 mg/mL."

Yeah that was my assumption when I read that.

I've had MDMA test positive for fentanyl. It has to be very dilute to not get a false positive.

 

[DeathIndustrial88]

I'm slow today....


So it caused a false positive but it was actually in there? So wouldn't it just be a normal positive? I'm confused.


What is a "concentrated stimulant sample" exactly?

 

[JTemperance]

I'm slow today....


So it caused a false positive but it was actually in there? So wouldn't it just be a normal positive? I'm confused.


What is a "concentrated stimulant sample" exactly?

The strip tested positive for fentanyl but it wasn't actually in any of those samples.

One of them was a 25mg generic Benadryl, straight off the shelf, which also tested positive for fentanyl. The others were illicit methamphetamine & MDMA from a forensic lab, but they were tested & found to be fentanyl-free beforehand:

Street sample identity and purity was confirmed using Fourier-transform infrared spectroscopy (FTIR) and gas chromatography–mass spectrometry (GC–MS).

In this context, a "concentrated stimulant sample" really doesn't have to be all that concentrated; the FTS strip here was shown giving false positives for fentanyl just in the range of 1-2mg of meth or MDMA per 1ml of water:

The critical concentration level for diphenhydramine capsules was 1 mg/mL, for diphenhydramine tablets 2.5 mg/mL, methamphetamine was 1.5 mg/mL, and MDMA was 2 mg/mL. At or above these concentrations, the FTS is likely to produce a false positive result.

Cocaine didn't seem to produce fentanyl false positives at any tested concentration, so "stimulants" here really only means MA & MD

 

[DeathIndustrial88]

The strip tested positive for fentanyl but it wasn't actually in any of those samples.

One of them was a 25mg generic Benadryl, straight off the shelf, which also tested positive for fentanyl. The others were illicit methamphetamine & MDMA from a forensic lab, but they were tested & found to be fentanyl-free beforehand:


In this context, a "concentrated stimulant sample" really doesn't have to be all that concentrated; the FTS strip here was shown giving false positives for fentanyl just in the range of 1-2mg of meth or MDMA per 1ml of water:


Cocaine didn't seem to produce fentanyl false positives at any tested concentration, so "stimulants" here really only means MA & MD

Interesting. Thanks for explaining man!

So the tests themselves are messed up or? Wonder why it's only the certain drugs giving false positives tho.

 

[G_Chem]

I’ve heard countless people talk of false positives with MDMA to the point where I just stopped trusting them completely. Cool to see the research to back it up.

-GC