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Opioids calling experienced, iv opiate users. please!!

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Hi, sorry mods, am new to the side but have utilized it quite a bit.....guessing it goes in sub megathread but confused on navigating and dont feel good at all...anyway my daily habits about 300-450 iv oxycodone, and ive been using my gfs subutex script to supplement when i cant afford the real stuff and having been taking 12 MG...

1) It Never takes away my cravings
2) I never get any sort of energy
3) I do take sublingual (stopped iving [them])
4) about 15 hrs after dose i get night sweats
5) about 24 hrs after dose i wake up feelinng mild w/d

I heard you can skip days of subs and be fine, i barely make it 24,,,any suggestions, thoughts, ideas, esperiences?

thank you
 
If your banging 300-450mg's of Oxycodone a day, 12mg's of Bupe prolly won't help u too much. Try upping your dose to 16-20mg's and see if that helps.

Bupe has a ceiling dose of 32mg's, you can go as high as that if need be.
 
Ive never heard of being able to miss days. You will definitely start to WD.
 
thanks for your input gibby, i wish i could i could take 32 mg ceiling dose...ive been torturing myself over it for a while, but i just cant spare that much....is that the problem do u think its too low a dose? I feel fine throughout the day (aside from misery of cravings), but no w/d sympyoms untill 13-15 hours later i start sweating like crazy in my sleep....would too low of a dose explain that also? i thought it lasts 36 hours......anyone?
 
for some people methadone is a better option. 30mg of methadone = 8mg of suboxone. if you need more than 8mg of suboxone, i would just switch to done. i dont think bupe is really effective above 8mg, all the shitty side effects start to increase past that point.
 
I dont know what your problem is....maybe your just one of those people who needs alot of bupe to make you feel better.

I went from IV'ing $x/day of black tar heroin to doing just 2 mg's of suboxone(it even took away my craving's, from day one)....so I dont see why 12 mg's of bupe isnt cutting it for you.....cuz in my opinion...$x worth of black tar heroin gets you much higher and for alot longer than 300- 450 mg IV oxy.
 
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epiks said:
Ive never heard of being able to miss days. You will definitely start to WD.
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"I heard you can skip days of subs and be fine, i barely make it 24,,,any suggestions, thoughts, ideas, esperiences?"
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I was on suboxone maitance and I could never skip a day... Well, no without being in w/d that is.

Thats a lot of oxycodone buddy..
I've been steady on 2-5grams of heroin a day & tried to stop.
4mg of Bup. ( Two (2) -8MG/2MG Suboxone's ) do pretty good for me

The first few days sucked, it was inevitable that I would experience some kind of withdraw but it seemed to balance things after 4 days...

unfortunately I went back, I only stopped due to money issues at the moment.
And now I'm down to as little as .5g to 1.5g a day. much better.

Hope that helps
and to add a note, I have been doing my heroin via IV since march and I've been doing just heroin for about 1.5 years at least.
 
homeydontplaythat said:
for some people methadone is a better option. 30mg of methadone = 8mg of suboxone. if you need more than 8mg of suboxone, i would just switch to done. i dont think bupe is really effective above 8mg, all the shitty side effects start to increase past that point.
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This was my thought exactly.

As well as buprenorphine works for me and other Bluelighters, it doesn't help everyone equally as much.

OP; have you been on MMT before?
 
thamks everyone...^cptn H....no i havent but am begining to think its the only way i can stat somehat clean....do u have info on prcinig, dosage for my situatuin, etc...would apreciate whatever u have
 
hedon said:
thamks everyone...^cptn H....no i havent but am begining to think its the only way i can stat somehat clean....do u have info on prcinig, dosage for my situatuin, etc...would apreciate whatever u have
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Just look up MMT clinics in your area. They should answer all of your questions. :)

I have no idea because I've never tried/done/seen methadone in my whole life.

I also notice you posted this in the Suboxone Mega Thread, so continue the discussion there please. :) I'm going to close this to reduce clutter, but also, welcome to Bluelight and I hope everything works out for you!
 
I dunno about other, more in-shape addicts, but Subs made me sweat all the fucking time. At the time I started bupe treatment I was around the 300mg/day IV level and would never DREAM of going a day without a dose. It never reduced my cravings and I usually ended up trading my subs for something more fun. Now I'm on methadone (again) and while it is a bitch and a half waking up every morning to stand in line with junkies, its helped me more than bupe ever did.
 
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