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grugz

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I was looking at edata recently (i like to drool over the shapes n stamps they have...) and noticed alot of their pills contain caffeine and those numbing agents used to cut coke. Then i did a google search on caffeine and numbing agents (Lidocaine, Procaine, etc), and it seems they can buy bulk at stupidly cheap prices on the net.

Now my question is, because we dont really have edata here (wouldnt mind opening my own, but cant really afford a gc/ms) so are these stuff common adulterants here?

Im guessing not because no-doz at supermarkets cost a bit. and i have no idea where to get local anesthetics/caffeine powder bulk.
 
Where to get bulk caffeine and anesthetics? Those same places you found on the internet are probably where the cutters are getting their ingredients from in my opinion.
 
Yeah you can. I'm sure there is some red-tape around it, but I imagine it does happen. There have been caffeine pills before on PR, not sure on the anesthetics though; you might not even notice unless you snorted the tablet or started having arrhythmias due to a large dose of lidocaine. :\
 
im not going to post where to get the bulk caffine, but theres a website in aus that has pure caffeine powder (anhydrous), sends it thru post. its not illegal btw.

anyway caffines can be a good combo with MDMA, little bit more of a get up and go, less tired etc
 
well it seems in the US alot of pills contain caffeine and MD as a combo. just wondering if that happens here.

Does it come up on tester kits? dw found it

ok caffeine is legal, but local anesthetics? i mean some bix do give that numbing sensation
 
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^ You can buy some locals OTC at pharmacies; for that scale of production though you would need bulk and I imagine it's probably coming from someone who isn't an official supplier.
 
dunno how much caffine is in no-doz? erowid dosage says you need 150mg,

caffine is good because its cheap and readily available, i dunno about amps as i am realy not a fan of it.
 
A little bit of amphetamine mixes well with MDMA. I feel it adds nice stimulating effects and increases the intensity of the come-up quite a bit. Not using too much though, just a small amount added on.
 
grugz said:
bah assholes.... pretty soon im gona have to make my own mdma if i want clean stuff.

cheers for info
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I wouldn't bitch about getting some caffeine in your pills if your getting pills with MDMA in them anyway. Most people in Australia are still getting BZP with their caffine.

Anyway, I have found that doing a bit of speed before doing pills takes away some of the empathy and euphoria from the pill. Towards the end of the night seems to make less difference. Its not a bad combo but its supposed to be quite neurotoxic.
 
Very easy to get bulk caffeine powder and it's very cheap (and legal). No-Doz is a complete rip-off. Think about who would use large amounts of caffeine (say for sporting supplements) and you'll be on the right path. Caffeine has been a common adulterant in pills for as long as I've been taking them.... and I'm not young by anyone's standards....

I'm not sure where this thread is going though? I'm pretty sure numbing agents are used extensively here to cut coke too. We really need someone to do a little research and post some hard data on common adulterants for ecstacy or coke. There may be some reports here in Aus DD already. I'll have a check for you grugz when I get a little more time :)
 
Hmm yeh I know coke has numbing activity, its original purpose till ppl got high lol. So they use it to cut coke and make it seem higher quality. I know caffeine is also used to cut coke. But it would be nice to have data or a edata in aus
 
you can buy large caffeine bulk powders or pills from anywhere that sells gym supplements. i myself have quite a bit for gym purposes.
 
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