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BZP + TFMPP pills flooding the market !!!

PERTH

kingpin007 you might want to add these two - i couldn't see them on the list from first page.

white tulip (pips) normal logo, pure white pill

beige shield (pip) small pill, logo was possibly raised

i fucking hate these pills......
 
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Bump, good work kingpin. Is it worth a mod cleaning this thread and sticky-ing it if we can keep it up to date? Perhaps trying to include rough date bunk pills were circulating in each state?
 
anyone came across green LAX on one side planes on the other. Rounded with flat edges, pressed in. I got em in washington state.
 
Anyone have a pill that they believed contained piperazines that they enjoyed. I think that if taken it right doses like when it was legal it can be ok just got to respect its rules like drink lots of fluid and don't do this & that or that.....etc.......
 
If 10 people take this stuff then 3 will say its the best thing ... other 7 wll be on the floor sweating and throwing up and carrying on like a cockroach thats just been sprayed with insect killer.

And feel that way for 24hours+ after ingesting ...

I found this so have a read -->

A dance drug described as "legal ecstasy" faces a possible Europe-wide ban after a report catalogued a number of deaths and serious injuries linked to the stimulant. Two people have died after taking the drug with ecstasy and it has been found during postmortems on two road accident victims in Britain.

Medical experts warn that benzylpiperazine (BZP) can cause convulsions, anxiety, abnormal heart rates, stomach pain and even death through over-stimulation of chemical pathways in the brain.

It is not illegal to take BZP but sales to the public are banned because it is registered as a prescription medicine. However, a loophole in the law allows retailers to sell the drug marked "not for consumption" as a soil fertiliser.

It can also be legally imported into Britain from foreign websites, mostly operating from New Zealand, where it is a multimillion-dollar industry and 20% of the population have taken the drug, which is sold under names such as Pep Twisted, Legal E, Nemesis and Euphoria.

The Home Office is reviewing the safety of BZP after the joint Europol and European Monitoring Centre for Drugs and Drug Addiction (EMCDDA) report called for an urgent risk assessment to be carried out.

If the assessment, which will be released in June, finds the drug to be dangerous it could be banned throughout the European Union. If the drug is not banned by the EU, the Home Office could add BZP to the list of substances controlled under the Misuse of Drugs Act.

A report published in the Lancet today describes one weekend in May last year when seven BZP users were admitted to St Thomas' hospital in London suffering from seizures, abnormal heart rates and anxiety.

It describes the case of an 18-year-old who bought tablets from a dealer in a nightclub thinking they were ecstasy or amphetamines. She collapsed after taking five of them and appeared to have a seizure lasting 10 minutes. When she arrived at hospital her pupils were dilated, her heart was racing and her body temperature and blood pressure had plummeted. She was treated in hospital with tranquillisers and within 12 hours had recovered and was discharged.

The paper says that standard medical tests may not pick up BZP, and warns it is potentially life-threatening. One of the report's authors, John Ramsey, a toxicologist at St George's hospital in London, told the Guardian: "We have no real idea how widespread the use of this drug is, as it is rarely reported. But it is quite clear it should be a controlled drug."

Originally designed as a cattle wormer, the drug is considered so dangerous by US authorities that it is classified as schedule one, the same category as heroin. The Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs discussed the legal status of BZP in November but no action was taken.

Phil Willis, chairman of the Commons science and technology select committee, said: "BZP gives the government the perfect chance to play new drugs with a straight bat. They should look into the harm they cause and give drug users proper information about the drug. It is then up to the criminal justice system to decide how illegal the drug should be based on criminality."

The European report lists a series of deaths and serious injuries linked to the drug, including a 23-year-old Swiss woman who took BZP together with ecstasy and drank more than 10 litres of water. She died of hyponatraemia, or water poisoning. The report also gives anecdotal evidence that BZP was used in an alleged drug-induced rape case in Britain.

The authors of the report are concerned that many of the injuries caused by the stimulant may go unreported because it is not routinely tested for and clubbers are unlikely to tell doctors they have taken it.

Last month the Medicines and Healthcare products Regulatory Agency announced a crackdown on the sale of the drug, warning retailers that they could face up to two years in prison and an unlimited fine.

But despite several raids by the agency and police, including the seizure of 64,900 tablets from a car in London, online shops are still selling thousands of pills a day.

Lesley King, a former head of the drugs intelligence unit and a British adviser to the European report, said that whether BZP is controlled by the Medicines Act "is a legally interesting point. If people sell it as a medicine it is illegal, but if it is sold as something else, like a soil fertiliser, it is not necessarily illegal. The courts would have to decide on a case-by-case basis."

'Its legal status is a big reason for people taking it'

"You feel very racy when you're high on it, your heart beats a lot. It gives you really loved-up feelings and mild euphoria. It also gives you an insane appreciation for music, though only music with a solid beat.

"When I took it, I noticed I was talking at crazy speeds and probably annoying everyone else around me. I also felt very dreamy and trippy, and space and time seemed to distort, although I didn't get any actual hallucinations."

Lewis and his friends, who have taken both BZP and ecstasy, say that the highs provided are somewhat similar, but Lewis is wary of taking ecstasy tablets.

"If you get caught with lots of BZP on you, you'll get a slapped wrist, but if you get caught with loads of MDMA [ecstasy] you'll be charged with possession and intent to supply a class A substance, which could result in a life prison sentence and an unlimited fine. So from a legal standpoint it's still far preferable.

"I didn't like the insane raciness and the dirty feel the BZP high provides, so I wouldn't choose it over other drugs.

"But I would imagine the legal status and its availability is the main reason people take it."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2007/apr/27/drugsandalcohol.immigrationpolicy
 
I had those green taurus (perth). soon as i started to come up i relised something was wrong. soon as i got in the club when straight to toilet n spent whole night yakking. like every 15 mins would have to go yack. gay shit
 
Regarding dangers of BZP... it would be interesting to see a comparison of hospitalizations and deaths from it as a proportion of the estimated number of people who take it, compared to similar statistics for alcohol or MDMA.

The article you quoted, kingpin, mentions four deaths but only talks about one in detail which was death by hyponatremia. 10 liters of water is crazy, and these kind of deaths could be prevented by getting more information out there to drug users about how to stay safe when using. The other BZP with MDMA case was similar perhaps?

As for the two road accidents, driving whilst under the influence of anything is a risky idea.
 
lol

have a look at this Dr War ...

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In the 10 years of me popping Mdxx pills , I have never been very ill or had the reactions shown in graph except for sweating & the occasional next day headache , people to knowingly take bzp pills are a few french fries short of a happy meal.. :)
 
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Oh, at the time I was unaware; and about an hour in I knew it wasn't MDMA, but it certainly wasn't as bad as I would have expected it to be.

of course, the next time I had a BZP/TMFPP based pill it was one of the worst nights of my life; I've been fighting their sale and use ever since.
 
Good stuff Doc ... live and learn ...

Reason I have never taken a bzp pill is because I got stuck with 4 of the first yellow jordans not knowing what they were & Sustanon did a report on them knowing they were bzp/mcpp as he is from europe & knew exactly what they are so I did not consume & that is when I started this thread.

On examining & smelling the pills I had and tasting them, this is how I found out about the fizzing and sour taste. BZP smells & tastes awful and fizzes on your tongue like a fruit tingle if you leave it there for few seconds....

a mdxx pill tastes/smells better lol
 
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Oh, at the time I was unaware; and about an hour in I knew it wasn't MDMA, but it certainly wasn't as bad as I would have expected it to be.

of course, the next time I had a BZP/TMFPP based pill it was one of the worst nights of my life; I've been fighting their sale and use ever since.

I had my first experience with BZP pills earlier in the year (white palm tree from UK), I have never felt so horrible the next day, couldnt eat, couldnt sleep, couldnt cool down (and it was fucking freezing in UK I can tell you) felt fucking awful.

Fucking horrible stuff, should be a war on the stuff:X
 
LOL... 5 out of 20 people kingpin007? Are we playing semantics here? Why not just say 1 in 5? :P

Also I believe Ahkei's experience to be true. Although that was their personal experience. Piperazine experiences vary greatly, if you care to read the rest of the thread. I had it once. never again. Although this IS a HR site. So if you intend to take it, keep plenty of water near by, food, a comfy place to relax (sleep is doubtful) and for g*ds sake DON'T drink alcohol!! All piperazine experiences I've read about so far tend to be a shit dick worse when you drink.

Agreed?
 
LOL... 5 out of 20 people kingpin007? Are we playing semantics here? Why not just say 1 in 5? :P

Also I believe Ahkei's experience to be true. Although that was their personal experience. Piperazine experiences vary greatly, if you care to read the rest of the thread. I had it once. never again. Although this IS a HR site. So if you intend to take it, keep plenty of water near by, food, a comfy place to relax (sleep is doubtful) and for g*ds sake DON'T drink alcohol!! All piperazine experiences I've read about so far tend to be a shit dick worse when you drink.

Agreed?

Piperazines dehydrate u bad. Hangover is very bad the next day if u drink too much with it. Ive conducted heaps of experiments with piperazines. First time i did about 100mg of BZP powder which was 99% pure. Seriously i said to myself this cant be true, i found a drug which is legal and BETTER than MDMA or Speed.
As i was coming down i was bit upset (just like on speed), i hate comedowns lol

i redosed 150mg. Was chattin on msn, i was gurning my head off, eyes rolling backwards n etc. As i was coming down i was getting sicker and sicker where i got to a stage where i vomited, headaches halucinations, sweating, paranoi, hot cold flushes etc etc which lasted for days.

The next day i flushed it all bout half kg. yuck no more lol
 
Moderation perhaps?

Personally I wont even experiment. I had two Yellow Aeroplanes in one night, and I'll never eat a piperazine again. It was like a 42 hour hangover x4. Lame.
 
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