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BZP + TFMPP pills flooding the market !!!

yeah unrecommending I think they meant .. lol

I cant wait for look on police face when they find there is no mdxx in them but just bzp ..

the defence lawyer can say these pills were bought in new zealand when they were legal and also legal in australia and these are just left overs etc ..

police will be disapointed but we are happy they off the street :)

To the boys in blue these pills are piperazines ... not mdxx ... thank you for taking them off the street as I gather that would be the last of them.

That bloke in photo wont be to upset after all he got away and those pills he had are alot cheaper and worthless than you think.... lol
 
kingpin007 said:
police just found 41000 of the apple mac and and nike pills that are awful bzp -->

http://www.news.com.au/perthnow/story/0,1,26435948-2761,00.html


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I dont get it, why would someone import bzp pills in the 1st place? I mean come on 41 000 pills? Surely he knew they were BZP. Its not cheaper to buy BZP pills than it is to buy MDMA pills. If ur gonna import things u might as well import the real deal no? Same risk, doesnt matter if u get 7 or say 12 years. Same thing really. Both ways ur fuked. Anyway glad to see that they are off the streets. Thats an awful big amount of pip pills.
 
Its FAR cheaper to make piperzine pills as there are factorys mass produceing the shit in places like China where it is legal. MDMA however is pretty much banned the world over so supply is short and the price high.
 
static_mind said:
Its FAR cheaper to make piperzine pills as there are factorys mass produceing the shit in places like China where it is legal. MDMA however is pretty much banned the world over so supply is short and the price high.
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I wouldnt say i totally agree with u. Ud be surprised at how much bulk pills go for in example EU. They cost quarter price of a cheeseburger for large quantities. We are talking about the manufacturing price not the retail price. Of course they will sell it for alot more as they know theres a shortage.
 
Sustanon has a good point, as does Static (of course :P). Import prices for that kind of bulk would pretty much do away with most of the inflation of MDMA. I wouldn't take my word for it though, I'm not really TOO knowledgable in the subject. And lets not forget dealers can be very unreliable, this guy might have got them dirt cheap from someone else who realised they were shit.

It's also possible that the guy got what he could (ie bad Piperazine pills) and didn't give a shit if they were any good or simply didn't know.

All we can do is speculate really :)
 
Buying 41 000 pills and not knowing they are pips? Bit weird if he didnt test one atleast. Then again it makes me wonder if he did know then why would he buy that much as he would have no returning customers whatsover.
 

Police warn of dangerous BZP passed as ecstasy
Article from: PerthNow
December 04, 2009 04:00pm

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WARNING: Police say a dangerous batch of drugs with Apple and Nike markings could have hit Perth streets, being sold as ecstasy, when they are potentiall lethal BZP.

POLICE are warning about a batch of dangerous drugs that may be in circulation in WA being sold as ecstasy.

The Serious and Organised Crime Squad has received an analysis of the recent 14 kg pill seizure identififying them as Benzylpiperazine or BZP -- not as MDMA or ecstasy tablets.

Detectives believe that it is not uncommon for illicit drug suppliers to pass off BZMP as MDMA, as their appearance is similar and the drugs possess similar properties.

Like MDMA, BZP also has significant side effects and can prove deadly in certain circumstances.

Side effects include: Increased heart rate; dilation of pupils; nausea; flushing; dry mouth; urinary incontinence.

These specific pills have been branded with the Nike “tick” and Apple Mac logos.

Anyone with information regarding the location of other pills matching this description is asked to contact Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.

Perth Now
 
Sameria said:
Sustanon has a good point, as does Static (of course :P). Import prices for that kind of bulk would pretty much do away with most of the inflation of MDMA. I wouldn't take my word for it though, I'm not really TOO knowledgable in the subject. And lets not forget dealers can be very unreliable, this guy might have got them dirt cheap from someone else who realised they were shit.

It's also possible that the guy got what he could (ie bad Piperazine pills) and didn't give a shit if they were any good or simply didn't know.

All we can do is speculate really :)
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OR simply he thought they would be less likely to be detected and he would get rid of em anyway, do the sums people, he only needs to sell one batch and he can walk away, doesn't need repeat business!!!!
 
baysieguy1 said:
OR simply he thought they would be less likely to be detected and he would get rid of em anyway, do the sums people, he only needs to sell one batch and he can walk away, doesn't need repeat business!!!!
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That's what I meant when I said he got what he could. Like you said, if he knew they were shit he wouldn't have cared because he wasn't going to be the one eating them :)
 
Wouldnt he/she still get done for trafficking a prohibited substance? Or at least intent to sell/supply?

In the perth pills thread there is also mention of purple mercedes being piperazines, has anyone tested those or got a report? I have been told by a friend that she had a dodgy reaction to those so they might be worth giving a miss. Sorry no other information.
 
Cant believe there are so many piperazine pills. Also dont understand why people still keep buying pills. Should find sumfn else liek i have and forget them, they will return when ur not looking for em.
 
Sustanon said:
Cant believe there are so many piperazine pills. Also dont understand why people still keep buying pills. Should find sumfn else liek i have and forget them, they will return when ur not looking for em.
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QFT. Moved on from pills to my lovely LSD <3. As soon as I see an increase in quality I will happily purchase some but until then I can wait. It's been 3 months for me and if I can do it then so can the rest of you.

Glad to see them pipes off of Perth's streets. No doubt they would have reached friends and families. I've been telling alot of friends to stay away from pills.
 
Seith said:
QFT. Moved on from pills to my lovely LSD <3. As soon as I see an increase in quality I will happily purchase some but until then I can wait. It's been 3 months for me and if I can do it then so can the rest of you.

Glad to see them pipes off of Perth's streets. No doubt they would have reached friends and families. I've been telling alot of friends to stay away from pills.
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Hah ive moved away from pills towards acid long time ago<3. Way better:)
 
Testing for piperazines

Due to the unavailability of certain chemicals that are needed to produce ecstasy, the market is flooded with pills that have other substances in them. In Europe, piperazines are frequently sold as ecstasy. Whether these be MCPP, TMFPP or plain old BZP: this is not the real deal and it can make you feel sick!
Luckily, piperazines do not react with our EZ Test Marquis (but they will show a reaction with Simons reagent) so you can weed these nasty buggers out.
Caveat emptor: Buyer Beware!
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http://www.eztest.com/shop/

mCPP/BZP reacts blue with Simons.
 
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