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BZP + TFMPP pills flooding the market !!!

sydney not to sure where about, im guessing west/south if that helps, i dont think they are bart head shape and are actually round pills with the bart face pressed. still judging by pillreports majority of the round ones are still pipes or duds. I guess there is a small chance they are the real deal but I thought id just give a heads up for people just to becareful if you buy or consume them. If i can get ahold of one ill reagent test it although I dont wanna waste money buying one just to test it.
 
Just recently I had one I was skeptical of - yellow camel. See this report for a description (not mine):
http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=16861

Outrpressed, slightly shiny, and when crushed up there was tiny shiny white flecks in the middle part of it, though it crushed up fine and not waxy.
Had a tell-tale sour taste - not as strong as any other pip pill I've encountered though - which was mixed with a normal musty bitter taste.

The effects of it, however, were like decent MDMA. Not a lot of get up and go but felt very nice for a few hours, stretching, yawning, empathy. Felt like clean MDMA to me. Not like any piperazine effect.

Comments on what this could be? There was definitely a taste of SOME pip in their, but if I didn't know that I would have said MDMA from the effects. Could this be a small amount of pip in mixed in there with a decent amount of MDMA?


Speculation but maybe mephedrone + something?
No pipe feels like MDMA
Did it come on quick and have a bit of a short peak?
 
See that's the thing. Having had plenty of experience in the past with MDMA (pills and crystal form), and having experience with a few different piperazine pills, this felt nothing like piperazine, despite the fact that signs point to it being in there.

Which is why I was wondering if small amount of piperazine plus a decent amount of MDMA might produce more MDMA results - but then why bother putting piperazine in at all?

So speculation of potential combo's, types of piperazines or otherwise, is welcome.

Would say it came on around 1/2 hour. No real strong peak - but even in better times it took more than one pill to give me a good peak. But definite gentle roll for a few hours. As I said, more of a melting, yawning, stretching pleasantness, with vision bordering on blurring if I was looking at my phone. No real noticeable side-effects over the next 24+ hours.
 
Its a cut thats why. Buy MDMA, cut it with BZP or other pipe at some percentage and sell to pressers or press yourself, Saves money even if the dose was decent. More pills to press for the same amount of cash.

Ive had BZP before having 2 kangas 2004, and I definitely rolled, no idea on the dose of BZP as it was in a vial at some legal store. Actually it was the first time I tried BZP and I actually didn't mind it but now I cannot stand it. I guess it was just excitement of a new drug, it did feel smacky for a bit but we were in our normal lounge club just inducing an MD type buzz I think
 
I dont care how highly people rate any blank pill personally i would never ever buy a blank pill. Someone who can make mdma, im pretty sure they have access to a pill press also with some nice dies with logos.

NYE 01/02 I had Blue Barrels (really thick looking pill which was domed on both sides I think with no logo). One of the best pills I have ever had, at least 125mg. Don't judge a book by its cover. :p
 
NYE 01/02 I had Blue Barrels (really thick looking pill which was domed on both sides I think with no logo). One of the best pills I have ever had, at least 125mg. Don't judge a book by its cover. :p

Ive had those barrels in EU hahaha and heart shaped, tortoise shaped and half moon shaped all good. I meant round normal lookin pills with no logo is kinda dodgey.
 
Off white Versace with some pale speckles in Melbourne

Off white Versace with some pale speckles (couple of them had blue speckles on the logo)

http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=5867

I took couple of them, I have very high tolerance MDxx/MDMA (ecstasy) after few hours, I started to sweat like a pig, can’t walk properly, shivering and nausea, headache, dizziness, hyperventilation basically I was hyperserotonemi – lucky me I quickly flush my self (induced vomiting)

If you guys keep on pushing shit around eventually you will lose customer... test your stuff properly before sell it… keep in mind the more overdose cases the harsher the copper will be on ya... Remember what goes around comes around.
Keep everyone safe and yourself safe… :)

Done toxicology test on them… BZP main ingredient + trace of MD etc... 8)
 
it is a joke how many shit pills that were going about

hammers & spanners, crowns (rolex), stars, bolts, supermen, diamonds, smurfs, rockets etc

mate told me on friday night that he was going to buy a load of those play boys and sell them but i told him to stay clear, more crap again

time bombs are floating about again too, pure dodgy pills them things

only half decent pill that was going about months back was those iron crosses but then again they couldn't be trusted at times, different batches came out, ones that were really good then ones that just wrecked your night full of that pipe crap, duds also were going about which gave no effects at all

suppliers tricking out the buyers by putting different coloured speckles on them, they made up bullshit like "those crosses with blue speckles on them are the fake crosses, the real ones have brown speckles on them" 8)

been done with that fake mdma as well, stupid me still takes it whenever i'm drunk at a techno event on easter monday in belfast, my mates were thinking smart though dumping it in the bin, they knew straight away by tasting it, it was bzp

just got nothing but paranoia that night, feeling sick but not vomitting (only ever vomitted from smoking bongs when really drunk), sweating like mad, skin felt weird like as if i was made from wax, shakey legs, there was no seats about so ended up sitting in a corner of the dance floor freaking out a bit, ended up leaving the place early

the same shit is floating about derry now as well, was asked to buy it last weekend, the way he described the appearance etc of it matches the stuff i had on easter monday, i've been informing my mates of this fake mdma and to avoid it at all costs, £40 for a gram of crap that will wreck your night, bad enough spending £2 on shit pills never mind this

it is getting beyond the joke now, pisses me off, i miss the good old pills, that left you feeling loved up, t shirt off, thinking strangers were your best mates, tunes making you feel on top of the world, dancing for hours etc :(

looking like it's alcohol only weekends for now though i hate alcohol and thinking of going off that
 
it is a joke how many shit pills that were going about

hammers & spanners, crowns (rolex), stars, bolts, supermen, diamonds, smurfs, rockets etc

mate told me on friday night that he was going to buy a load of those play boys and sell them but i told him to stay clear, more crap again

time bombs are floating about again too, pure dodgy pills them things

only half decent pill that was going about months back was those iron crosses but then again they couldn't be trusted at times, different batches came out, ones that were really good then ones that just wrecked your night full of that pipe crap, duds also were going about which gave no effects at all

suppliers tricking out the buyers by putting different coloured speckles on them, they made up bullshit like "those crosses with blue speckles on them are the fake crosses, the real ones have brown speckles on them" 8)

been done with that fake mdma as well, stupid me still takes it whenever i'm drunk at a techno event on easter monday in belfast, my mates were thinking smart though dumping it in the bin, they knew straight away by tasting it, it was bzp

just got nothing but paranoia that night, feeling sick but not vomitting (only ever vomitted from smoking bongs when really drunk), sweating like mad, skin felt weird like as if i was made from wax, shakey legs, there was no seats about so ended up sitting in a corner of the dance floor freaking out a bit, ended up leaving the place early

the same shit is floating about derry now as well, was asked to buy it last weekend, the way he described the appearance etc of it matches the stuff i had on easter monday, i've been informing my mates of this fake mdma and to avoid it at all costs, £40 for a gram of crap that will wreck your night, bad enough spending £2 on shit pills never mind this

it is getting beyond the joke now, pisses me off, i miss the good old pills, that left you feeling loved up, t shirt off, thinking strangers were your best mates, tunes making you feel on top of the world, dancing for hours etc :(

looking like it's alcohol only weekends for now though i hate alcohol and thinking of going off that

From all the pills u listed they are well known piperazine pills in the UK and worldwide. There is heaps of iron crosses floating in Europe, my mates get em all the time and i made a report on them a while ago. The fake white crosses edge doesnt curve and is more like a plus logo then an iron cross.

http://img8.imageshack.us/i/0106072125.jpg/
http://img195.imageshack.us/i/2106070045.jpg/

Very nice beans they were (:
 
never seen them in a yellow colour before :O

last time those crosses were going about in derry was the first week of march then they disappeared being replaced with those bolts

never knew that about the shape of the cross, cheers, whenever the crosses do come back in i'll look at the shape of the cross

had good nights on the proper ones

those bolts are the most dodgiest i've taken, made me think constant suicidal thoughts, gave me that weird feeling that pipes give me, my surroundings go a weird yellow colour for some reason like things are melting away slowly around me, getting a floating feeling, a bit similar to these:

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I did some shit pill today, it was really crumbly and it was extremely bitter to the taste but it made me feel horrible. Headaches and heart palpitations with some dissyness. So much for my second failed attempt to experience ecstacy, first pill did nothing at all.
 
I did some shit pill today, it was really crumbly and it was extremely bitter to the taste but it made me feel horrible. Headaches and heart palpitations with some dissyness. So much for my second failed attempt to experience ecstacy, first pill did nothing at all.

Start testing your flips man..... Sound's like you dropped a pipe :\
 
I did some shit pill today, it was really crumbly and it was extremely bitter to the taste but it made me feel horrible. Headaches and heart palpitations with some dissyness. So much for my second failed attempt to experience ecstacy, first pill did nothing at all.

I have not had a pill in 6 months because of all the shit ..

only places that are getting good pills is Victoria and WA
 
I have not had a pill in 6 months because of all the shit ..

only places that are getting good pills is Victoria and WA

Funny you say that, not to sure about Victoria, but WA has only recently been getting good flips. First okish flips were the LV's, now we have the decent Blue T Stars oh and before that Green Heart's and Jolley Rodgers <3

Yum Yum
 
I dont care how highly people rate any blank pill personally i would never ever buy a blank pill. Someone who can make mdma, im pretty sure they have access to a pill press also with some nice dies with logos.

I've only been taking pills for about 3 1/2 - 4 years now so i can't really comment on/compare to any of the awesome gear you guys used to get, but for the past 3 months I've been eating these blank pills called "white blanks" or "white amsterdams" week in week out and they've been pretty great. Very firm press, score on one side, pretty chunky. Nice clean roll, always felt good after, medium sized mdxx dosage (im sure someone else could shed some light, i cant really differentiate between mdma mda mdea etc). But yeah these babies were great while they were here imo....So i guess it goes to show that not all blank pills are bunk.
 
Here's to say I got some pale pink clubs (out press). I've tested them with Mandelin and the results were blue to black in under 5 seconds.

Now I know these are on the list and I basically I said no to the person I got them from, but he did say they were really really good, and I said no, but he gave me one for free to test.

What are my odds?

If there pips u still will roll but the effects will be different and ull regret that u took drugs forever because of the side effects. U need to give us more info example: smell, taste, looks and etc
 
^^^

the outpressed bzp pills from Canada/America have disappeared ... you tested the pill anyhow and got good reaction to a mdxx substance from what you said and I bet the one you have does not taste sour or fizz on your tongue .. will have usual burning chemical taste.

the pill you have is from the same people who made these -->

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they are MDEA .. give you nice buzz but no lovey dovey feelings ..

These seem to originate from melbourne ...

If I could have one I would ... :)
 
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well there is a few more pips to add to the list since i seen the red mitsubishi on the end of it ive tested and tasted them and didnt know what the flavour was its not sweet or sour or fizzing like has been described more like a filthy harsh chemical burn that stays around for a long time i can handle chewing the worst tasting mdma but this stuff i can hardly handle the lick ive had to wash the flavour out many a time.
ok ive posted pics and mandaline reactions of these pills on the NSW PIR thread they are red/pink mitz, green mitz, blue X, blue mitz but they tasted waxy and differant to the first 3 there are other varants of the Xs going around as well. and bunk/nonactive white nazi/swatzstica so now i know the flavour of pips ill contribute more to this thread.
what i have noticed is that the mandaline reagent reacts slowly with a red a deep red ring only around the out side of the drop over a few minutes getting worse can see these reactions on page 7 or 8 (from memory) of the nsw thread. 1 more warrior on the war on pips.
will be testing these pills with a complete test kit as soon as it arrives been over a week and still waiting
 
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