Buspar

[quale]

Has anyone actually gotten positive effect out of buspar? Does it really reduce anxiety in non-extreme cases? How long did it take to kick in?
Why is it I know lots of people prescribed prozac, wellbutrin and even a couple with buspar and despite the fact that these are supposed to be psychiatric wonder drugs I know no one who has a significant imporvement. Are these drugs a big lie.
It sometimes seems like they are really no more effective than a placebo. Yes comparative studies do show a significant differnce but this would be true if they only helped a small number of people. Hell it could be explained by the fact that these drugs may produce a noticable effect thus exagerating the placebo (i.e. a diphenhydramine dosage would accomplish the same thing because people feel they are being affected).

 

[Effigy]

Buspar is junk. It was supposed to replace benzos as a non-eddictive yet equally effective anxiety med. Yeah right. Imo it's competely worthless.
It doesnt really "kick in". I'm pretty sure you have to take buspar daily and after a couple of weeks when sufficient levels of it build up in your system you should notice a decrease in anxiety. I gave it a try. I know a few friends that gave it a try. All of us went back to benzos and no one had anything good to say about buspar at all.

 

[quale]

As I believe in the magic pill theory with near religious devoution, that is there SHOULD be a magic pill psychs give out...not that there is yet, I will defend it and phreex in the process.
Happiness is not simply a matter of `controlling your thoughts' or `willpower.' These things may have some effect on happiness but research suggests there are some people who are simply less happy than others (this can be from both enviornmental and genetic reasons). This should be obvious from experience. Two people in similar life situations often have extremely differnt levels of happiness...and often the happier person has way less willpower or whatever else you want to call it.
This is why they call it depression and not `lack of willpower' or being down. It seems (as we might expect) that chemical differnces between various peoples brains cause varying levels of happiness. Luckily we have reached a point in our development where we can synthesize psychoactive compounds. We can make chemicals cheap as dirt which radically alter the mood of the individual who takes them (i.e. fentanyl).
If we can make a safe daily usable chemical that makes people happier not only should we do so but we have a moral obligation to do so. Depressed people should be going to their psychiatrists to get the magic pill. Unfortunatly this country (due to its puritanical roots) wants to ban drugs than make normal people feel better. This poses a large problem for the development of good psychiatric drugs as we would expect a drug which improves the mood of the depressed to improve the mood of normal people as well (just as growth hormone helps out those who are unnaturally short as well as making normal people even bigger during development). Already the FDA has shut down a promising anti-depressant tratment (don't remember the name now) which was a dopamine reuptake inhibitor essentially because it was too enjoyable.
Yes any good psychiatric medicine we make is going to be habit forming. No one is going to want to give up a product that makes them feel better. As long as we require a product which isn't abusable (i.e. taken by normal people to feel good) or habit forming we will be stuck with shit like prozac or wellbutrin which doesn't really make people feel better.
What we can hope for is a drug without serious tolerance. This is why the opiates, which leave the user mentally alert and have virtually no negative side effects in reasonable doses are not the ultimate psychiatric medicine (tho if they were legal the fact that they could be made cheap as dirt suggests they would work much better than anything we have now...who the fuck cares if you are addicted, you are addicted to water. We could install an opiate tap in every sink across america)..and the potential for a fatal overdose. Hopefully we can find something similar or learn how to entierly block opiate tolerance.
Pursuiant to these considerations the `responsibility' of drug use isn't measured by the amount of chemicals you intake but the effect they have on you. PhreeX takes lots of Oxy to make his mental state happier. In and of itself there is nothing responsible or irresponsible about the ingestion of a chemical...it is all about what it causes you to do.
If it causes you to lose your job end in jail or on the street or even just reduce the overall quality of your life it is irresponsible drug use. If it has benificial effects on your life it is responsible drug use. Addiction is irrelevant, diabetics are responsible `addicts' to insulin. Moreover, it is certainly possible to realize that most individuals will not use a drug responsibly but that you do. There are almost certainly responsible meth users...but they would rightly recomend against other people becoming users because they are likely to use irresponsibly. Now I have no idea if phreex is or is not a responsible user, I am just pointing out you have no reason to conclude from availible information he is irresponsible.

 

[Eternal Party Girl]

I totally disagree. I have ADHD and Wellbutrin has made a significant difference in my life. It brought me to a level of calm I had never experienced it is a real drug and it's helped me tremendously. I recently started taking Buspar, but haven't noticed a significant difference as of yet.

 

[fairnymph]

The SSRIs and Wellbutrin DO work...they have side effects and they dont' work for everyone, but saying that they are entirely worthless is greatly incorrect.

If we can make a safe daily usable chemical that makes people happier not only should we do so but we have a moral obligation to do so. Depressed people should be going to their psychiatrists to get the magic pill. Unfortunatly this country (due to its puritanical roots) wants to ban drugs than make normal people feel better. This poses a large problem for the development of good psychiatric drugs as we would expect a drug which improves the mood of the depressed to improve the mood of normal people as well (just as growth hormone helps out those who are unnaturally short as well as making normal people even bigger during development). Already the FDA has shut down a promising anti-depressant tratment (don't remember the name now) which was a dopamine reuptake inhibitor essentially because it was too enjoyable.
The name of the drug was amineptine. Another good example -- reboxetine, a norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor, which has far fewer side effects than the SSRIs and starts working sooner...it's been around abroad for over 5 years now and it STILL hasn't been approved in the US. How the dopamine and norepiphrine reuptake inhibitors can be so overlooked (and flat out disregarded/ignored/shunned) completely boggles me.

 

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