Buprenorphine - Infamous bupe to h to bupe problem

[BlueShade666]

I need peoples experience on this one, not moral advice.

I live in jerzy so you know i have a heft dope habbit. I do anywhere from a bundle to three a day depending on what i can get that day. On sunday i got the nerve to put 24 hrs under my belt to induce subs. I snorted 1.5mgs, did prolly 3mgs subling an hr layer then shot 2 more mgs.They definitly helped but i still felt weak and had aches and pains not to mention a wicked mental thirsy for dope. So me being an addict grabbed a bun and did it that night. (monday night) tuesday i did six bags ( all this while i was feeling the d buy obviously not as i should). My last shot tuesday was two bags at 5pm. Then today wedneaday i took maybe one mg subling at one pm.Mu cravings set in an hr later and igot six bags and did them

Now my question is this. I have subs in my receptors. For whatever reason i had a harder time today getting high when i only subling a mg then on monday when i did dam near an 8 in a few roa's. Sorry side tracked. My question is this

Since subs are in my system can i takeit again even though i used h ? I figure the h is in my bloodstream but not much attached itself since the bupe was there. I used to do my subs in the am always iv then do h at night and wake up n shot more subs the next morning never had an issue. But idk in this casr as it was a si gle dose of subs.

Anyone have experience with being on subs getting high for a day or two then going right back on subs no issue no reinduction? I miss the days where subs worked god i miss them, but im like most opiate addicts...retarded.

Any thoughts or experience would be cool, thanks

Ps. Mods please dont merge. Ive seen threads on inductions, pws, getting high while on subs and the like. But never a straight answer on using for a day and getting right back on subs and ive looked. But i may have miased one.

 

[Vaya]

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[deidara]

You still need to wait 24 hours for the dope withdrawals to really kick in before you should take the sub. I would either snort or take SL a little at first, make sure your not gonna go into precipitated withdrawal before you bang it, but then again only a little can send you into PW, bupe is a powerful drug so just wait til your in full WDs and you'll be fine.

 

[Effect]

I find that as long as I don't go on a run and only use for a day or 2 then I don't have any difficulty jumping right back to sub. This is most likely due to the buprenorphine that is still present on my receptors despite using dope. I haven't had issues with dosing 1-2mg sublingually 12 hours after my last shot, but most people would advise you to wait longer to avoid issues. I've always been able to dose bupe with minimal waiting even after a period of frequent use.

 

[BlueShade666]

What you mean if you used for a while and probably had no bupe left in u u still dont have issues taking your sub? When i was only doing a bag or two a day or sixty mg oxy i could switch back and forth seamlessly but when my tolerance gets up there i have issues.

I would assume (using the small amount of logic i can muster that if u have bupe on your receptors u can redose after minimal time due to the redose isnt kicking anything out of the receptors. The small amount that did manage to find empty ones probably metabalized faster then say they were all empty of bupe.

 

[Effect]

I'm saying that despite using a gram or so of heroin over 2 days, I can jump right back to the buprenorphine without waiting to feel withdrawal symptoms. I thought that's what you were asking about. Most people always say wait until withdrawals no matter what when taking your first buprenorphine dose after any full agonist, but I don't find that that's necessary for me if I only stopped my bupe for a couple days.

 

[Princess_Poppy]

blah. i just lost my whole reply. i'm too wordy anyway. in a nutshell. the first few days of bupe suck. u have to accept this if u want to quit. if u r not feeling like quitting right now, i have a method that will not create a situation where u r addicted to bupe and heroin. stop trying to take more of one or the other to compensate for ur actions. it's called a duel addiction and it's no bueno. this only worked for me at the clinic where i would just raise my dose and not be sick. but methadone was hell to kick, and hell to be on if u still want to get high.

so, if u know u r going to try and get high later, take a MINIMAL amount of bupe to stave off some of ur wd symtoms- if u, in ur heart, know u r gonna cop later. i mean TINY like a .25 of a mg. on the other side of things, i have found U CAN induce subs early (12 hrs) if u use a tiny bit of bupe. TINY REMEMBER? and do wait 12 hrs still.

i recommend making a decision about whether u r ready to quit though. being honest with ourselves is hard as addicts. i do understand.

 

[BlueShade666]

Trust and believe im ready to stop with dope. Im just trying to find the..easier softer way to transition. But im putting another 24 hrs in just to drop my tolerence even more before i take another piece of sub. And i think the small piece i took yesterday is helping me with withdrawls today.

 

[BlueShade666]

And effect, that was exactly what i was asking

 

[Princess_Poppy]

ok then, i didn't quite grasp the situation. if u only stopped bupe a couple days, u shouldn't have any major issues. agreed. the first few days of bupe just usually suck if uv had a habit. but when do start ur subs back, and feel a little shitty, wait it out. it'll only last a few days.

 

[Effect]

Yeah if you end up doing dope for a week or two then the transition can be more of an uncomfortable situation, but we all know that don't we...