Buprenorphine dose for best euphoria

[onlyone3232]

I have little tolerance to opiates. I quit taking codeine about a week ago & I had also been using oxy about once a month. I've been given some 8mg subutex pills & id like to know what would be the best dose to achieve the best possible euphoria. I know the ceiling dose is 32mg stated on wikipedia & thought that would give the strongest effects but I was doing a little bit of research & found this quoted by Citoikid
You get MUCH higher when you get your bupe dose below 2mg per use.

I was once on 16mg a day back in my teens, and barely felt each dose because my receptors were always so saturated so I didn't get any euphoria - which is associated with the increasing levels on bupe after each dose.

I went down to 1mg three times a day and felt it much better.

Then I quit for 3 days, went into withdrawals, then took .5mg and was completely high like I had taken a strong dose of hydrocodone.

The lower the dose, the quicker your body eliminates the bupe after each dose, therefore the bigger increase you'll feel after each dose, hence increased euphoria.

You can drop from 32mg to 8mg in a week. Tolerance adjusts extremely fast with bupe both up and down.

Ive had 20mg of Valium today which is a very small amount to what I'm used to & I've taken 32mg of subutex, which I held in my mouth for over an hr. When I finally swallowed it I still had a bitter taste in my mouth so Im not sure if I got i wan't to know the best way of taking it for highest bioavailability.

So now I'm confused about what the best dose to take would be.
I read that bupe is also converted to norbuprenorphine which is much more recreational than just plain bupe but at around 2mg the bupe saturates ya opiate receptors including the effects of the norbuprenorphine eliminating its effects. So I'm wondering if 32mg of bupe is more recreational to whatever the amount of bupe that is converted to norbuprenorphine before it gets saturated.
Basically I wan't to know if the best dose for the best euphoria is 1.5mg, 2mg, or 32mg?

Also, How long do most ppl leave it in there mouths???
I had 20mg of valium which is a very low dose for me & held 32mg of subutex in my mouth about 2 hrs ago. The powder dissolved in 5 mins but an hr later the saliva in my mouth still had the bitter taste of bupe. I swallowed it anyway after an hr.

And lastly, what are some tips for helping to get the most out of your subs???
Obviously IV but I dont want to do that & Im wondering if ya can snort them and I was also told that I was told that rinsing your mouth out with really hot water or with mouth wash because of it's alcohol content helps the subs absorb.

I have a few left, but Ive already had 32mg today so I would be wasting them to have any more so I'll have whatever dose gives u the best effect tomorrow morning. It'll be hard breaking up the 8mg pills trying to get between 1.5mg-2mg though if the metabolized norbuprenorphine at a 1.5mg-2mg dose if better than 32mg of straight bupe which will block the norbuprenorphine from working

I hope it's the smaller dose that has the best high because I'll have a much larger supply than
I only plan to take them for a few days. The effects I'm getting now arn't all that good. I dont even find oxy that addictive even though I sometimes take over 100mg. Funny thing is I found codeine addictive. probably because it's cheap & easily available. anyways can anybody help me out?

Also I read the ceiling dose was for respiratory depression and not analgesia.
Does that mean I can have a higher dose than 32mg???
What is the BA snorting compared to the BA sublingual???
Ive been told that 32mg is a high dose but Ive been taking 32mg the last few days & have only felt a mild sedation. My mate told me the pills got wet at one point. Maybe that's why they arnt as potent. Im thinking about snorting another 8mg. But I need to know if ya can snort them first

thanks guys

 

[onlyone3232]

there was another thread made about the same topic. im waiting for a response in either of these threads. want to make sure iots safe & need to know if ya can just snort the powder of if u need to put it in water & squirt it up there with a rig
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/621409-Snorting-Suboxone-Film-Strips-Extremely-Potent

but yeah if anyone could tell me what the best dose is like mentioned in the above post that would be great

 

[Cane2theLeft]

There are over a DOZEN buprenorphine mega threads accessible from the Other Drugs directory where hundreds of people have discussed this for years. You can find answers to this in a manner of minutes instead of creating multiple threads asking the same questions that have been discussed so many times in the past.

Please don't bump your own thread - it's not allowed and won't expedite people responding. For the largest segment of posters in this forum, it's the middle of the night or early in the morning so you aren't going to get a flood of responses at this time. You're much better off looking through the sub mega threads, looking through the Other Drugs directory or using the search engine.

 

[onlyone3232]

yeah i read the mega thread couldnt find optimal dose. i just snorted 8mg. its burning my throat maybe this was a bad idea. the burn is starting to go away but it isnt pleasant.
u think u might know what would be the opitmum dose cane2theleft?

 

[Cane2theLeft]

No but I know that there is a ceiling to the agonist effect that occurs between 2 and 4mg. At low doses, bupe acts as a regular agonist but at the equivalent to the agonist effects of 30mg of methadone, you hit a ceiling. You can take larger and larger doses all you want but all this will do is produce a stronger and longer-lasting blockade effect. Physicians choose larger doses so that full agonists are blocked for longer periods of time making it more difficult to get high.

The intranasal BA is a little higher than oral so you probably do not receive ANY stronger effects intranasally after ~3mg. Past that, it's just a waste and if you have any desire to use other opioids, simply counterproductive.

Here is some further reading on the subject.

There is no single, optimal dose for everyone. People's responses and desired effects vary. We can't tell you what YOUR optimal dose will be.

 

[spini4]

Dose low 2-4mg. uneeded high doses of bupe will just raise your tolerance and as said above will prolong the blocking effect.

 

[Pjkt2501]

1-1.5mg given that it builds up.

Need to stay under that 2mg mark for norbupe to get a look-in.

 

[likeakite]

Euphoria and Suboxone ? Maybe. Once.

 

[Pjkt2501]

Euphoria and Suboxone ? Maybe. Once.

If you don't pay attention to metabolites and half-lives, sure.

Anyhow, this thread isn't headed anywhere it seems.

OP, if you have any further questions, PM me and we'll discuss making a specific (succinct) thread for you to sort them. Thank you.

Closed, PM me with any questions.