Heroin bupe and sub question...very peculiar situation

[marcusinnj]

so...I've taken a grand total of about 9mg sub starting at 3am monday took 4mg sublingual, 8am 1mg iv, 10am 1mg iv, 12pm 1mg snorted, 3pm 1mg iv then about 1 mg divided into 3 piles snorted at 10pm, 8am, and 10am today....I just tried 3 stamp jersey bags iv and don't think i feel really shit from them....i'm horrified about it too....

I know the dope, and its not too great, but ok....would 9mg spread over 36+ hours be enough to block substantially or is it in my head or what?

 

[Tommyboy]

It definitely could have blocked. I find that taking it consecutive days causes a blockade effect more then taking one higher dose then waiting the same amount of time.

 

[ColombianDopeHead]

You've been taking subs since Monday. It definitely blocked the dope.

 

[paper planes]

yes for sure maybe not completly but it wont be close to the same

 

[Flabu]

Did you do all 3 bags at the same time? In my past experience, I am usually able to break through the bupe blocking effect 24 hours after last dose. It would typically take me 3-4 hits in a shot to do that though, when normally I would do 2-3 to get high.

I'm not sure if it works like some people think though, can somebody please clarify if bupe is more of an all or nothing block? Like once you break through it you will feel the full effect of the rush?

Or does it block different amounts no matter what?

 

[piebald]

the sub mega thread has a ton of info on all this but 9mg will def block dope; esp if you spread it out..honestly its gonna be in there for awhile 36-48. and "shitty dope"? you wont feel it

 

[suessmayr]

There is no question that it blocked the dope, it's not even a maybe. You won't be able to get high for a few days and won't really buzz for I would say a week.

And this isn't a 'peculiar' situation. This would have to be the most mundane, worn-out bupe question there is.

 

[rave23]

You did 9mg of a partial agonist with a ridiculous binding affinity you're not going to feel shit from even slamming dope.

At least you won't go into full blown withdrawals either until it wears off. And don't shoot up just as you're starting to WD. Wait, wait and wait until you're in the thick of it, and you're 100% any opioid has left your receptors before shooting up again. It's the only way you will get that rush you're looking for.

 

[Znegative]

^ I sort of have to disagree with you guys. It's not definately blocking it, it could be that the bupe just raised your tolerance too, even though it's a partial agonist, that really means its a full agonist up to a certain point, and a fucking potent one...

IME I've found it takes really around 5 days for suboxone to completely block, but it's so case by case (even with myself, a constant subject!). Sometimes I can be taking 24 mg for a month, and then shoot one bag of really find dope and get high, other times I'll be on 8 mg/day, and I'll shoot five bags and feel only the slightest effects. The only sure way to go about this is to not use a dose of suboxone large enough to block your dope.

 

[ms4104]

I think it blocked it.NJ stamp bags are small (unless your down south), If they are ptown or newark.. 3 bags tryin to break through 9mg is pushin it (also, 3 bags is arbitrary, were they 3 bags of FIRE? was the dope bullshit sand? that will also cause you to not get high lol. Plus you IV;d some of the doses you too so every time you IV 1mg its like sublingually dosin 3mg. Snorting is also high BA.

Next time buy the dope, and when you start feeling minor or moderate withdrawals (the bupe goin away)., Like even yawning, in my experience, youa re good to go as far as feelin your dope.

HOnestly thogh I take 6mg bupe daily..I dose 2mg 3x daily.. I took my 6mg yesterday, and today I took 2mg at 7am (sublingually). I got some FIRE from brooklyn, and shot 1 bag, seriously, just 1 fucking single bag shot and it got my fucking FUCKED UP. And I do that pretty often.. I must have a decent amount of bupe in my syttem dosing 6mg daily (usually not on the day I acutally get high), but I still get nice and high.

If I have been on bupe for like 4 days or more I even get the nose itchies and shit that goes away after a while of gettin high you know.

 

[MidwestCaveman]

This is how people od! Ask the questions than get high. Doing it the other way around can definitely lead to a horrible time. For me I have to wait 5-6 days for my subs to wear off b4 I can get any thing out of opies. And I find that if I take double my sub dose after a 4 day break it gives a great euphoric, noddy high.