Benzos Bromazolam Dependency Question

[downforthedawn]

Forgive me as I'm sure this is answered in some way on here. I just went through a significant traumatic incident on Saturday and I am a mess.
Prior to this, I have been taking broma recreationally 2x a week at most, never more than 2 mg in one go. I have always used benzos responsibly and have thankfully never gotten wds or dependence. My last dose before this incident was on Thursday night. Then, after this happened around 2 AM on Sat, I took another 2 mg. This is not something I usually do. Today, I am in a lot of pain, and as an ex-opiate addict it is not an option. I am dying to take another 2mg to ease the edge from the pain (I am aware it will not take it away, just ease the tenseness and how sharp it is in my mind).
Long story short, am I at risk of WDs if I were to dose 2mg every 2 days until Sunday? If I only take a 2mg tonight and then stop, am I at all at risk for WDs? I know these questions seem paranoid, but with everything I have going on benzo WDs might just push me over the edge, and I'd rather be overly cautious than sorry.
Thanks in advance

Doses thus far:
Mon @ 8 pm: 2mg
Thurs @ 8 pm: 2mg
Sat @ 2 am: 2mg

 

[Cream Gravy?]

Yes. IME bromazolam is also particularly tolerance inducing compared to classic benzodiazepines which implies that it will cause greater dependence. I never use it more than a day or two, same with most other RC benzos.

 

[Deleted member 593549]

Yes. IME bromazolam is also particularly tolerance inducing compared to classic benzodiazepines

why?

 

[Cream Gravy?]

why?

I’m not sure why. It just reminds me a lot of Norflurazepam which was also very tolerance inducing.

I haven’t dabbled in it all that much because I’ve been on alprazolam for 7 years now daily but as long as I don’t overdo it I can still have positive use without bad wd cycles.

 

[Cream Gravy?]

It was also very prone to amnesia which again, I don't find with the more common benzos or etizolam. Amnesia issues seem to occur more with the 'RC' benzos I've dabbled in.

 

[4DQSAR]

Bromazolam is almost identical to plain vanilla alprazolam with a different halogen. So 2mg is within a prescribable dose but is absolutely the highest dose.

Unless you undertake instrumental analysis, you really have no way of knowing if it really IS as described. I know for certain that when certain benzodiazepines were legally controlled, vendors simply misrepresented their product so they wouldn't be left with any stock.

The whole point of alprazolam was that it has no active metabolites so it only acts for 8 hours or so. If you are managing to take one dose and it lasts for over 24 hours, I would suspect misrepresentation; but instumental analysis is the only way to know for sure. If you choose to invest in analysis, I'm more than happy to explain the GC-MS/NMR or even the X-ray crystalography which some Chinese producers still favour.

 

[downforthedawn]

Bromazolam is almost identical to plain vanilla alprazolam with a different halogen. So 2mg is within a prescribable dose but is absolutely the highest dose.

Unless you undertake instrumental analysis, you really have no way of knowing if it really IS as described. I know for certain that when certain benzodiazepines were legally controlled, vendors simply misrepresented their product so they wouldn't be left with any stock.

The whole point of alprazolam was that it has no active metabolites so it only acts for 8 hours or so. If you are managing to take one dose and it lasts for over 24 hours, I would suspect misrepresentation; but instumental analysis is the only way to know for sure. If you choose to invest in analysis, I'm more than happy to explain the GC-MS/NMR or even the X-ray crystalography which some Chinese producers still favour.

Thank you for your response! I am very interested in analysis, just never have done it before. My "provider" sends me testing from the company he uses but they are outside of US so can't use them myself, and also not sure if they offer comprehensive analysis.

 

[downforthedawn]

Yes. IME bromazolam is also particularly tolerance inducing compared to classic benzodiazepines which implies that it will cause greater dependence. I never use it more than a day or two, same with most other RC benzos.

Thanks for the response! I ended up caving that night but am on a full ban until July now. Been 3 days since last dose and no side effects yet so hopefully I escaped unscathed.

 

[4DQSAR]

Thank you for your response! I am very interested in analysis, just never have done it before. My "provider" sends me testing from the company he uses but they are outside of US so can't use them myself, and also not sure if they offer comprehensive analysis.

You can't trust them.

Even if it was the proper, raw GC-MS and NMR images, who can say if what is being sold is the same as the sample that was tested? We only partly solved this by leaving the time and date of the analyses left in resulting images, hashing the images and using the Bitcoin-blockchain to identify exactly when the images were uploaded (to within a few minutes). A batch typically only lasted a week or two so if people checked, they could see that each image WAS unique, WAS recent and WASN'T the same images reused (possibly from another vendor).

Still imperfect but our logic was that if you go to all of that trouble, it becomes less work to simply post real analyses than to steal someone else's and meant other vendors couldn't steal ours.

If you are OK by day 3, it may have been you were developing a psychological addiction rather than true physical dependence.

I strongly recommend you just give ALL benzodiazepines a long, long rest. I mean months at a bear-minimum but truly, it takes years for the body to partly re-adjust. It never quite does which is why benzodiazepines are known to produce what is termed 'the kindling effect' which means second time around, tolerance and dependence occur faster and the AWS is worse.

To paraphrase John Cooper Clarke:

First it's fun, then it's not, then it's hell.

From time to time you will see people on BL debating if benzodiazepines or opiods produce the nastier AWS. Both are AWFUL.

 

[PtahTek]

particularly tolerance inducing

i find this true. if i take it "hard" (say 2-3mg) a couple days in a row by the third day that does mostly nothing but keep me calm, sedated and vvvv

prone to amnesia

^^^ i can forget days, weeks even months. they fly by and im like damn its christmas already?
i do not do this way anymore, though.

i feel brmzl is longer acting than what others give credit for.
my current taper is smooth (although slow af) and lately been skippin morning doses of .2mg. i really dont notice the lack thereof so. then again i would suppose it would depend on how concentrated the substance was in blood before not taking more.

i would love to hear how it went with OP @downforthedawn ?
it is now sunday and i just saw this thread. i am most curious. plz. thx

i would not think you would have wds from three uses of brmzlm. maybe some rebound a little. if the usage was like 2-3 weeks of use maybe i would type different.
ive been taking it for years. it is very helpful for many reasons for me. although i hate to give it up i do not feel there is anything to compare the effects it has and the relief(s) it provides - in my specific case - can be matched in todays market.
i would never suggest anyone ingest this substance unless there were some specific "ailments" that were being targeted.

honestly? being able to skip doses is a great sign in my journey of quitting substances. it stokes that fire. i am stoked about feeling able to quit just in itself.

but back to the matter at hand.
as others have posted:
it would be best to get off now unless you have a supply to get you through a taper plan if entertaining the thought of continued usage. this applies to everything even sugar. lol at least sugar has a short "crash" period ime.

hope to hear back
seriously need to know, now.
peace

 

[4DQSAR]

FYI While researching another grey-market compound I noted that they did indeed provide a digital CoA but the bizarre thing was that their instrumental analysis showed a positional isomer of the compound claiming to be sold and they simply appented the words 'chlorine might be in the mta (sic) position' and while it's just an informed guess, I strongly suspect was a presumptive analysis so when the results don't match up they tried to have it both ways by showing the GC-MS/NMR pair BUT sort of fudge directly saying 'this isn't what you say it is'.

Of course a digital CoE isn't worth the paper it's printed on.

I did contact the lab that provided the CoE and mentioned that by using a message digest and a digital-timestamp that uses a blockchain transaction would make it impossible for someone else to modify their CoE. Didn't get a 'thank you' but I just checked and the CoE has been removed. So who knows?

But anyone outthere, message-digest & timestamp or it might as well have been created in Microsoft Paint! Don't harm your good name by allowing modifications.